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I think a .338 would be sweet, though it might snort a little. The .264 will be much more pleasant.
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I think a .338 would be sweet, though it might snort a little. The .264 will be much more pleasant. Lately I have been firing my .257SLR with 85 grain bullets and .257 Weatherby with 100 grain bullets. Yesterday I took the .375-.416 Rem firing 250 grainers at up to 3,100 feet per second to the range. That first shot was a real surprise !
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Just reading 250 grain and 3,100 in the same sentence makes my shoulder cringe.
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130 barnes tsx at 3290 fps and 140 partition at 3100fps in a 6.5-06 with less than 56 grains of powder , whats to improve
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it. Wonder how that bullet would hold up if you drove it into something at PBR? Probably doesn't matter, the velocity would kill whatever you hit with it.
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I imagine it would be hellacious, but truthfully I have no real world experience with the scenar. With those numbers I just may have to change that. I've called Nosler half a dozen times last week trying to get on the list, voicemails and no return calls. I get an answer at Forbes every time I call to pester them...boo hoo I know. Think the new nosler rifles will be at a price comparable to a Montana or 24B ?
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130 barnes tsx at 3290 fps and 140 partition at 3100fps in a 6.5-06 with less than 56 grains of powder , whats to improve Not discrediting the cartridge, I love 6.5mm but aren't those velocities just a hair behind the 270wsm ?
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it. Wonder how that bullet would hold up if you drove it into something at PBR? Probably doesn't matter, the velocity would kill whatever you hit with it. JM, From what I've seen, bullets act a lot differently, 3,000 fps vs. 3,400-3,500 fps. Hyper velocity opens a whole new discussion (can of worms) on bullet selection, bullet performance on game. At very long distances, one could probably predict performance. But, what about an 80 yd. shot? They do happen... DF
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You can get any cartridge to zero at 315. Depends how high you want to be at 100-200 yds. They're focusing on the guy that wants to be 2" high at 100yd and not worry about hold over/ turrets out to 400. I like it either way. I'm really interested at what price point nosler will be offering the new rifle. Good point Nosler is even getting pretty proud of the seconds.
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You can get any cartridge to zero at 315. Depends how high you want to be at 100-200 yds. They're focusing on the guy that wants to be 2" high at 100yd and not worry about hold over/ turrets out to 400. I like it either way. I'm really interested at what price point nosler will be offering the new rifle. Even LR turret twisters should appreciate less wind drift from high velocity and high B.C.'s. Speaking of costs, to me the critical point will be cost of brass. People will be building their own rifles, so price of the Nosler rifle may be less critical to the future of the 26 Nosler round. DF
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it. Comparing this to my 300wsm, 200gr partition @2,900fps... 500yd- 2,050fps, 1,866 ft/lb, -32", 17.4 wind. VS... 26 Nosler 500yd- 2,684fps, 1,967 ft/lb, -17.6", 11.3 wind
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Hmmm...
More punch, less wind deflection at 500, less punch on the ole shoulder when the trigger is pulled...
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Wonder what powder will work to get decent load density, decent velocity, and reasonable pressure? Might need H50bmg or H869. I like 7828 in my 264 and it's a long ways from compressed in that case. Retumbo might be considered a fast powder in the 26 nosler.
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I think retumbo would be a good start.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I think retumbo would be a good start. another good one would be RL22, it's my go-to powder in a variety of cartridges.
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123 scenar @ 3550 +2.2 @ 100yd, 3068 ft/lb -11.6 @ 450yd, 2,085 ft/lb , 9.1 wind
I like it. Comparing this to my 300wsm, 200gr partition @2,900fps... 500yd- 2,050fps, 1,866 ft/lb, -32", 17.4 wind. VS... 26 Nosler 500yd- 2,684fps, 1,967 ft/lb, -17.6", 11.3 wind Not to disrupt your enthusiasm, but: 300WSM 155 scenar 3300 @ 500 yards 2470 fps,2099 ft/lb,13" of wind (10mph) Or the 210 berger , 2900 fps @ 500 yards.. 2260fps,12" of wind 2383 ftlbs I like 6.5's and they are more efficient for sure, but lets not use missiles in the 6.5' and ashtrays in the 30's for comparison..
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Agree on the not exactly fair comparison, it was more of a check against what I'm currently running. Funny you mention the scenar, I ran those numbers yesterday. Quite impressive really, might have to order a couple boxes.
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I think retumbo would be a good start. another good one would be RL22, it's my go-to powder in a variety of cartridges. I've been a long time shooter of RL 22 in my 7 mag, but after my cold weather testing I am leaning more to the hogdon extreme powders these days.
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RL 25 might be a winner as well...
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