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I had one built for exactly what you are asking for. With match shooting included there is only one answer in my opinion and that is a BR or BR variant (Dasher, BRX etc.) All of the cartridges mentioned are great, BUT when you bench it at a GH shoot things change.
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Being that the OP wants to shoot targets, which generally leads to quite a rounds down the barrel wouldn't a 6MM BR be a better choice than a 243 due to the overbore. I've read where barrel life on a 243 can be as little as 1500 rounds
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I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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6mm BR 1-8" Twist. Call Northland Shooter Supply for a Criterion barrel. Berger 105 Hybrid. Varget. And enjoy.
Mark This^^ Throw in some Forster dies. 107 matchkings aren't shabby either
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Well I think that pretty much settles it. I'll probably go with the 6br.
Thanks for the help everyone.
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I'd greedily take the extra ass and minimal bullschit of a 243Win repeater twisted 8"...if only to eek a little more drift advantage downrange. Logistics supports it easily/well and it's far and away the most,for the least.
Very easy to arrange a kiss ala Salvage mag confines.
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I'd greedily take the extra ass and minimal bullschit of a 243Win repeater twisted 8"...if only to eek a little more drift advantage downrange. Logistics supports it easily/well and it's far and away the most,for the least.
Very easy to arrange a kiss ala Salvage mag confines.
Dead on assessment. Nothing says easy like the 243.
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6mm BR 1-8" Twist. Berger 105 . Varget. And enjoy. +1 +1 especially if you are going to shoot it in comps and G-Hog matches, I shoot one now for everything you mentioned. Good advice here. Try to score a Brux barrel if you can.
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I am with JWP. The 6mm Remington is a stellar performer. In fact I rebarreled a .243 Tikka T3 with a lilja tube in 6mm Remington. It averages in the .3s with 85 grain Sierra hollow point Game Kings. It is an easy gun to shoot well.
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I have researched this a lot lately, and the consensus is the 6BR can be a pain in the ass with regards to feeding in a repeater. Fact or myth, only one way to find out. I read enough negative to decide against it though.
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Like Sagebrush, I am a 6mm Rem Fan, especially fast twist on a Long Action....
but when it comes to accuracy, there was a shop teacher from a local high school, that use to show up at a monthly 1000 yd shoot, every once in a while...
while there was an incrowd who usually rotated the monthly winner, they use to curse this shop teachers existance...
he was a fairly young guy, but brought a 6BR that he build himself at the local high school using their equipment...fast twist and was shooting Sierra 107 match kings....
every time he showed up he went home with the grand prize...
the other guys were shooting 300 Magnums with 45 power Leupold target scopes...
This guy has a 6.5 x 20 Leupold.. off the shelf, nothing special...but he darn sure could apply it all...
I certainly was impressed.. it would be my first choice for a custom varmint rig...in 6mm...and I single shoot those type of rifles... so a repeating capability isn't an issue for me...
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Though I have a real soft spot for the 6mm Remington and have a super accurate 6BR repeater, I would opt for the plain old .243 for this application.
Its more than plenty accurate and the logistical support is just so much better.
No iffy brass issues that can crop up with the 6MM and no feeding concerns in a repeater that can show up with the 6BR
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The 6mm Rem is a workhorse, but problem is it is pretty long for a short action.
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For a first Target gun and targets to 800 yds, 6mmBR with 1-8 twist. link here Northland Shooter Supply has a barrel for you. Midway usually has Shilen for Savage rifles in 6mmBr too. 6mmBR link 6mmBr.com link for you too. Check the 6mmBR page on the .243 also.
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6 Dasher over the BR to 800.
Absolutely nobody shoots a 243 in BR, as it can't hang with a Dasher in the balls out accuracy dept to 1K.
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aalf, you seeing any 6 Creedmoors yet?
Thanks.
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I haven't, and doubt you will...
Not sure about last year, but the year before, ten of the top ten shooters at the 600 Nationals shot Dashers....
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I've looked at Savage rifles in 6BR and look most inviting for the price. I'm curious if the cases need to be turned as they are for custom rifles or just load and shoot like you would a .222?
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Yup. Nothing's easier to make shoot than a 6BR. I can even do it.
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