Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Speer is dead to me.

I got an email back from the customer service folks yesterday confirming that the Speer Deep Curl will no longer be sold as component bullets (even though their website shows it as a component). Unfortunate, as it's the most accurate bullet in my 280 AI.

Is it me, or do they seem to be all over the map? The Trophy Bonded Bear Claw was available as a Speer Component, then that decision was reversed and the TBBC was licensed/sold to Federal. The Fusion was supposed to be made available as a component...then it wasn't...then it came out as the Deep Curl...but they said the Deep Curl wasn't actually the Fusion. Never mind that shortly after the DC's release, they had the whole pressure spike craziness, indicating that they hadn't done adequate testing before releasing it to the public.

I don't know. They seem to frequently release stuff and then fairly quickly pull it back or change the design. They just strike me as a company that's capable of impressive innovation, but one whose business decisions are haphazard. Either way, I'm not getting sucked in again by their component craziness.

Go Barnes no surprises..

Thanks for that pearl of wisdom.

You're welcome..thank me later

Oh really?

What happened to the XLC and a few others?

There are probably fewer suprises with Nosler and Hornady.

Yep...

I still have part of the only box of Deep-Shoks that I ever saw on a shelf.

I also wonder what sort of dust-up took place between Cabela's and Speer as Speer bullets disappeared from Cabela's shelves long ago.

I shoot plenty of Barnes, but I was commenting on Speer and their propensity for marketing silliness.

I have wanted their .429 240gr flat points for two years.
Now looking for Noslers.

Federal was also going to offer the Trophy Bonded Tip as a component at one time. It was even on the website. Something changed, it was never offered. Guess they didn't want my business.

Yes they do some weird crap.

The Deep Curl is the new Hot Cor. No its not. In some calibres it is, in some its not. In some its only for the heavier weights. Wait no, its actually not.

So now they pull it?

Hornadys are cheap, accurate and hold together almost as well as any premium bullet.
Speer bullets have failed me by either not expanding or disintegrating.
Bullets that failed me - 6mm 105 grain - not expanding one iota, 7mm mag tips in a 280 - disintegrating almost severing an antelopes head from the body (I have witnesses), 30 caliber 180 grain grand slam -- disintegrating shot from a 308 no less.

I will use their varmint bullets, but never again game bullets!

I may try the 250 grain 35 caliber bullets as they are almost as accurate as the Hornadys. So far I've only shot paper with those Speer bullets. Speer has let me down and Hornady hasn't. So...

I like the 145gr 7mm Boat Tail, but that's the only Speer rifle bullet I shoot. A box of 30 year old bullets I loaded shoots just like the recent boxes I ordered this fall. I can see where product availability on their other lines could frustrate a customer.......

Yeah right. How many forms of the X-bullet have been introduced, only to see a bunch of them become no longer available.

I like and use Barnes bullets, but they haven't exactly been consistent with their offerings.

^^^^^^^ PLUS 1

I waited for a good while to get some deep curls in .244" but got tired of waiting and picked up some Accubonds instead.

Lets not forget the Deep Shok too...

They can't seem to keep anything on the shelves from what I've seen. Wouldn't surprise me if Speer went titz up one of these days.

Cabelas has Speer bullets on their website. Can't speak for the shelves though.

That ain't happen in'; ATK, parent company, isn't going anywhere.

OP is spot-on though. They're flaky as heck and it's beyond marketing silliness; it's product offering fickleness. Pretty irritating to the consumer when there is no predicting what'll be available from one year to the next!

Not that I am complaining about continuing to get my Hot Cor .257/100-HPs! Coyotes won't be happy though !!!

Even so; pass me some Hornadys...

Those Speer 257 100 grain hollow points are absolutely devastating!