|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3 |
I could really care less about whatever rifle nosler wants to put it in. I am just interested in which bolt face would be needed. I might actually be interested in making a custom based off it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,080
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,080 |
So Gunsamerica blog sends me an e-mail everyday with SHOT show updates still no mention of this thing.....What are they waiting on?
Mike
God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,173 Likes: 18
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,173 Likes: 18 |
They're probably waiting on SAAMI approval of the final dimensions, pressures, ballistics, etc. The SAAMI members have a meeting during the SHOT Show, because everybody's there.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,080
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 18,080 |
God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
Nosler should have talked to a few 1000 yard BR shooters who have chased their tails with 6.5 x 284's and have the worn out barrels to prove it. You better have a tuner on your barrel if you want to push 140 grain and similar bullets that fast or be prepared to live with a lot of vertical at long range. So can one push a 130-140gr 6.5 bullet so fast it kills accuracy? I know alot of the shooters that shoot 6.5-284's had a sweet spot around 2950-3000 fps!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3 |
I can't believe noone knows what the case head size of this thing is yet. if anyone is reading this at the shot show you should be able to look at the cases and tell if its a magnum bolt face or not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 207
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 207 |
Last edited by Bobthenailer; 01/17/14.
One Ragged Hole! The quest for accuracy continues.
Bob the nailer
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,623
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,623 |
.532...the guys over at LRH have been chewing on this for almost a day now. Lots more data and sales propaganda here: http://www.26nosler.com/
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
I can't believe noone knows what the case head size of this thing is yet. if anyone is reading this at the shot show you should be able to look at the cases and tell if its a magnum bolt face or not. Base = .532 Case length = 2.590 OAL = 3.340
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3 |
So its pretty much an ultra mag case. Too bad I was hoping for a long 284 case. One that would clean Up tons of factory standard chambers. In all bore sizes
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
Basically a 7mm Dakota case!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3 |
I have to be honest once I heard this was going to be on a mag bolt face my interest level pretty much went to nothing. This case isn't really anything new we have tons of other cases that would probably work great instead, like the ruger case or a WSM case, to me the better story is the 6.5 SAUM that pat and george are playing with. I have my doubt that current VLD bullets will handle that much extra speed and perform how they need to at extended ranges. this round sounds to me like a barrel BBQer.
what are some thoughts on a rebated rim mag case, Or a full length stretch 284 win case. would that work?? what would be the downsides??
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
I too think it's going to be hard on throats, I could like a stretched 284 win base better,and agree that right now the 6.5 Saum is probably the better choice for someone that is going to be shooting alot which is a big part of LR shooting!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,523
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,523 |
Folks complained about the 264 win mag burning barrels, the 26 Nosler is a barrel maker's dream. But, I gotta admit that I am intrigued by it. It would make hold over reticles or elevation knob cranking redundant at most ranges I have available to hunt.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,096 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,096 Likes: 3 |
Maybe a .366 Sako case necked to 6.5mm?
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
That AH press release said it's basically a necked down and blown out, and shortened 404 Jeffrey case...which makes it a kissin cousin to the Dakota line and you might say kin to the cases formed off the 375 Ruger case, too.
There are very minor dimensional differences in all these cases.The Dakota cases have a .545 head size because that's what Don Allen thought worked best with the full length extractor and CRF of the Dakota 76 when he developed the Dakota lineup.
The Ruger case is .532 so will fit the standard magnum bolt face. In the end, there is not going to be a whole lot of difference between any of these cases in terms of capacity and velocity.
In terms of velocities etc etc you will get from this new cartridge about what you would get if you wildcatted a 7mmLRM,or 7mm Dakota.It was not hard to figure what this case was going to be because it had to fit a 30/06 length action, so the only way to get more capacity to make it materially faster than a belted 264 Win Mag was make it fatter; which is exactly what the Dakota basic case, and the Ruger, are all about.
Last edited by BobinNH; 01/18/14.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,171 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,171 Likes: 5 |
Great summary, Bob, as usual.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
DF I think the cartridge will be pretty cool for the guys who want lots of speed in 6.5...seems McWhorter rifles are selling a pretty fair number of the wildcat 6.5 Weatherby and this 26 Nosler should be about the same thing. It may not be the ticket for those shooting lots of rounds; I would want something smaller myself for volume target work...but for moving mono's fast (how they work best)it should be a beast. ...and if there is anything better in terms of flight with High BC bullets at modest velocities, it's high BC bullets at high velocities(assuming they can handle the heat.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,114 Likes: 3 |
I never knew nosler sold alot of rifles period. the buzz on this new case was huge, once its been found out what it really is, everyone seems to be like ho hum.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,173 Likes: 18
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,173 Likes: 18 |
The Internet buzz on almost anything new is often "like ho-hum." That's because Internet posters are always smarter than rifle and ammunition manufacturers. Just ask them!
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
562 members (007FJ, 12344mag, 10gaugemag, 160user, 1badf350, 1936M71, 56 invisible),
2,320
guests, and
1,189
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,040
Posts18,500,763
Members73,987
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|