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....of course! 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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DF,
26 Nosler may not be a very imaginative name, but just imagine the Campfire reaction if they'd called it the 6.7mm Oregon Coast Range Volcano Express? (6.7mm, of course, being the actual diameter of what most of us call 6.5mm cartridges.)
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The thing that leaps out at me are the number of folks jumping through hoops to get 3200 fps from a 140 gr Berger in a 264 Win Mag....which is not always easy to do...  Well.....here it is! I bet it does this like breaking sticks! What's wrong with that?  But folks will still find a reason to complain..
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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DF,
26 Nosler may not be a very imaginative name, but just imagine the Campfire reaction if they'd called it the 6.7mm Oregon Coast Range Volcano Express? (6.7mm, of course, being the actual diameter of what most of us call 6.5mm cartridges.)  Thanks for a good laugh. DF
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Cummins I don't know but a 129 gr ABLR at 3400 fps doesn't seem very ho-hum to me.... Neither is a .270 Wby 130 gr bullet at 3375 fps.  Yep. Run the numbers for the 270 Weatherby with the 130 Berger Classic Hunter; they are right there with the 26 Nosler/129 ABLR at practical hunting distances. Yeah but some guys do not want a 270 Weatherby....you know how those 6.5 guys are...... Guys if we are going to start worrying about cartridge performance duplication this late in the game, we might as well pack it in........I really can't think of too many cartridges between 22 and 375 caliber that have a unique lock on performance, not duplicated by something else. Bob, Given the Fire propensity to designate the .270 as "gay", seems to me 3,375 fps is quite manly, regardless of bore diameter... Is that line of reasoning Kosher? DF
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Bob, Given the Fire propensity to designate the .270 as "gay", seems to me 3,375 fps is quite manly, regardless of bore diameter... Is that line of reasoning Kosher? DF DF that seems a lot of speed with anything, to me. The "gay" thing is amusing, since the 270 kills more BG animals ,annually, than many CF pets combined. It's easy to argue "numbers". Anyone can do that. ......but pretty tough to argue with animal carcasses.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The Internet buzz on almost anything new is often "like ho-hum." That's because Internet posters are always smarter than rifle and ammunition manufacturers. Just ask them! I sure am. I know that .277 is always better than .264, just ask all the dead critters I've killed since 1957.
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Yeah, hyper velocity seems to open a new can of worms regarding bullet performance. A great 7x57 or 6.5x55 bullet would probably become a real dog at 3,300 fps., especially at reasonable ranges.
Seems like a "back to the drawing board" moment regarding bullet selection when these new "wonder rounds" make their debut.
But what would Loonies be doing otherwise?
DF
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Who is making the m48 patriot stock?
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There is little done in this rifle cartridge field that is truly new. The 26 Nosler sounds like it is close to (not exactly the same as, CLOSE TO) the Allen express. Look back to the short mags, (Winchester sold as a new thing) many people do not realize that WSM cases can be made from 348 win cases, and it had been played with stating shortly after the 348 was introduced. Some with the rim, some with rebated heads, a variety of body tapers, necks and shoulders. Do a search for heavy Express Inc. or look hear http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazine/PDF/R248%20Partial%20.pdf The 26 is not going to be magic but will or should give us (in addition to a 26 caliber cartridge) a reliable and "reasonably" priced case to neck from 17cal. to 475cal. Do I hear 500? After all who wants to try and find 8x68 or 9.3x64 cases to wildcat. And the 264 win mag will have to give up the title of the worst barrel burner. 8mmwapiti
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MissouriEd,
Good to know that after 120 years somebody proved those those wimpy 6.5mm cartridges totally inadequate!
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I like it. The 6.7 OCRVE.
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WOW, 38 pages on a thread for a gun and caliber no one has ever seen. Will everyone post their results after they give it a fair shake??????? P.S. Does any have any real word drop info. on the 129 LRAB, still can not figure out how a shorter bullet with Longer Bearing surface and a tangent ogive has a higher BC then the Berger ???????
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MissouriEd,
Good to know that after 120 years somebody proved those those wimpy 6.5mm cartridges totally inadequate! I didn't intend to mean that 6.5s are inadequate. They are not at all, as I have several Swedes, a 260 and a long throated 264 Win. American 6.5s don't exactly have a reputation of winning the sales race. Being chambered in the correct rifle will help with sales and popularity. Few recent chamberings have been able to compete with the 06 the 270 the 223 or the 7mm Rem no matter the industry marketing hype. You can bet this 26 Nosler will indeed be grist for the mill of all wildcatters.
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Wow !
seems this forum has quite a few guys who readily defecate all over a cartridge they have ZERO experience with !
most are happily sitting in a stagnating pool of cartridges developed before they were born, all the while we have improvements and technologies that allow for incredible performance gains and further refinements with experience and knowledge gained on an almost daily basis .
the 26 Nosler is a step in the right direction as it will give cause and reason for manufacturers to develop new cartridge components, powders ( 300 RUM = 208, 210, 215 and 230 gr high bc bullets ? )
and the potential for improved barrel quality and barrel steel treatments such as nitriding, there is a vast space in potential improvements in almost every department when it comes to firearms, ammunition and related components ,
all I read is the constant whining about barrel life , there is a reason why the barrel is threaded and screwed on , if they were meant to last forever don't you think the barrels would have been welded on permanently ?
Recoil ?
are you freaking insane ? in a 264 ? WTH is that all about ? have some people really gotten so soft in their comfortable little lives that a miniscule amount of discomfort is exaggerated to extreme proportions then loudly proclaimed as fact to the extent of believing it themselves ,
No matter if you whiners and BS'rs pizz and moan like hooers with the clap,
the 26 Nosler will shine with the 160 gr Matrix bullets with a BC at .685 and the 142 gr Matrix with a BC at .625
I know this because I have been playing with my wildcat 6.5 with a capacity of 104 grains, the 160 Matrix bullets at 3400 fps is a wonderful thing !
the best part is ............. when the tires go bald ... You can put shiny new ones on, maybe go with a different size .. height , width, make, model etc .......
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
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Wow !
seems this forum has quite a few guys who readily defecate all over a cartridge they have ZERO experience with !
most are happily sitting in a stagnating pool of cartridges developed before they were born, all the while we have improvements and technologies that allow for incredible performance gains and further refinements with experience and knowledge gained on an almost daily basis .
the 26 Nosler is a step in the right direction as it will give cause and reason for manufacturers to develop new cartridge components, powders ( 300 RUM = 208, 210, 215 and 230 gr high bc bullets ? )
and the potential for improved barrel quality and barrel steel treatments such as nitriding, there is a vast space in potential improvements in almost every department when it comes to firearms, ammunition and related components ,
all I read is the constant whining about barrel life , there is a reason why the barrel is threaded and screwed on , if they were meant to last forever don't you think the barrels would have been welded on permanently ?
Recoil ?
are you freaking insane ? in a 264 ? WTH is that all about ? have some people really gotten so soft in their comfortable little lives that a miniscule amount of discomfort is exaggerated to extreme proportions then loudly proclaimed as fact to the extent of believing it themselves ,
No matter if you whiners and BS'rs pizz and moan like hooers with the clap,
the 26 Nosler will shine with the 160 gr Matrix bullets with a BC at .685 and the 142 gr Matrix with a BC at .625
I know this because I have been playing with my wildcat 6.5 with a capacity of 104 grains, the 160 Matrix bullets at 3400 fps is a wonderful thing !
the best part is ............. when the tires go bald ... You can put shiny new ones on, maybe go with a different size .. height , width, make, model etc ....... ++. Ya that too.
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Gonna be a 375 Ruger necked down to 6.5...right? Sounds like a barrel burner.
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