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There is nothing a slug gun does that a rifle doesn't do as good or better.
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But there is something about having a wary buck inside of 20 yards of you and have to draw the bow back and get the shot off with him unaware that really floats my boat. LOL, in my response above I skipped right over that part of the equation, and it's probably the most important. I was sticking to the objective, logical reasons for primitive weapons seasons. But when you get right down to it, objective logical reasons have little to do with why many people hunt.
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Thank you.
Actually that gun started out life as a Winchester 1300 Ranger, and was a beater when I got it. Took it apart, and reblued whatever I had to. I got the stock on Fleabay, unfinished, and it's actually for a Winchester model 275(from the mid 60's) 22 magnum. Finished it and fit the recoil pad to it. Forend is an unfinished piece for a model 12 that was cracked at the end(I had to cut that part off to fit it anyways). Found the forend unfinished and cracked at a gunshop in Orange County, New Yorkistan. Fit it and finished, the wood isn't a bad match for 2 altogether different pieces of walnut.
Reciever is drilled & tapped(from the factory) and it has a Bushnell Banner 1.5X4.5 variable on it. It's a 20 gauge with a smoothbore slug barrel.
Shoots pretty damn good for a gun with crappy reputation, sporting a cheap scope & shooting chitty foster slugs, LMAO
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There is nothing a slug gun does that a rifle doesn't do as good or better. beg to differ with you a slug leaves alot more blood at point of shot compared to rifle.I've shot plenty of deer with both rifle and shotgun and never once had the same amount of blood from rifle.
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There is nothing a slug gun does that a rifle doesn't do as good or better. beg to differ with you a slug leaves alot more blood at point of shot compared to rifle.I've shot plenty of deer with both rifle and shotgun and never once had the same amount of blood from rifle. So you make a bigger hole in the lungs/heart with a slug than with a 45-50 caliber expanded 30 caliber bullet still going 2500 FPS... seems a bit odd to me.
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Or start with a .45 and expand from there.
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You can tell a 1300 instantly by the little "point" where buttstock meets receiver. I believe them to be one of the most underrated shotguns ever. Stroke is short, cycling is fast. I have owned an all camo since the 1st year they made them. I'm thinking like 20-25 years ago? It has rifle sights on it, no vent rib. Shoert barrel, 22" I think. They called it the deer/turkey combo or something. I only use it for turkey though. Would be great for called in coyotes also...........
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There is nothing a slug gun does that a rifle doesn't do as good or better. beg to differ with you a slug leaves alot more blood at point of shot compared to rifle.I've shot plenty of deer with both rifle and shotgun and never once had the same amount of blood from rifle. A lot more blood? I'd say a .45 300gr or so projectile makes a PLENTY big hole/blood trail. A slug may make a bigger hole, but it makes a bigger mess too. Unnecessarily IMO. Are you telling me a .45 300gr bullet doesn't leave enough blood for you? Because I don't understand what your point is. Just sayin'. I have shot a bunch of deer with ML. 1 shot, 1 kill. You never had to be Geronimo to find one either..................
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Well so much for this... Great information from this thread. Thanks to all who posted! I appreciate everyone who provided first hand information and staying on topic. It is really helpful to hear from the crowd who live in shotgun-muzzleloader only areas.
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I'm thinking we ARE still on topic though. No?
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There is nothing a slug gun does that a rifle doesn't do as good or better. I'd agree with this, and you could extend it to muzzleloaders and archery. Which is exactly the point of primitive weapons seasons. Lots of guys choose to go that route for the challenge. When you get within rifle range a rifle hunt is over, whereas a bowhunt or muzzleloader hunt is just beginning.
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IME a muzzleloader hunt is same way. I'm automatic with it, just like a centerfire rifle(which I kill deer/critters with every year also). I simply do not feel handicapped in any way with my in-line ML.
For me, I have to use a bow or crossbow, or a handgun to really feel "challenged".
When I do hunt a "shotgun zone", I NEVER use a shotgun. ML or hand-cannon for me........
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No doubt that bowhunting is, relatively speaking, much more of a challenge.
I can't say I don't feel handicapped with a muzzleloader compared to an accurate centerfire rifle with a good scope on it though. I guess it depends on the state regs where you hunt, no scopes, sabots, or smokeless powder are allowed here during the ML seasons. Even with a scope, there's no way I could use a muzzleloader to make the same shots I can with my centerfires.
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All I'll say is take a look at the LHR REDEMPTION. I will personally vouch for anything and everything they claim. Go to their site and or look them up on utube
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All I'll say is take a look at the LHR REDEMPTION. I will personally vouch for anything and everything they claim. Go to their site and or look them up on utube I looked at their website. But I'm not sure of your point, are you saying that with this .50 caliber muzzleloader, you can duplicate the performance of a good centerfire?
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back on topic! Get a "slug gun" if you feel under-gunned with one shot, get a CVA Apex "muzzle loader" if you want better accuracy, want to be able to convert to center fire for the about the same money...
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I hunt with both as stated and as far as accuracy and range it's 6 in one half dozen the other....Follow up shots are the 1 bonus factor with the slug gun...it all depends on what you are looking for and comfortable with. I hunted many opening days of slug gun season with my .50 cal Hawkins,still dig that set trigger
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is there a pump slug gun that will shoot 3 or so into sub 2 inches at 100 yards? Just curious.
Wow Horandy saboted slugs for a 20 guage are $10 for 5 or $40 for 20....a Hornady 50 cal MZ bullet is .75 cents but I don't know how many 100 grain loads are in 16 ounces of powder which costs $30.00 or so.
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