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Last night President Obama spoke about equal pay for women in the workforce.

I have known many, many, many (lucky) women, and I have never once heard of a woman being paid less than a man in any occupation, ever.

Whether they were government employees, businesswomen, doctors, writers, loan officers, whatever... Never once have I heard of a woman being paid less than a man (all things being equal of course)

It is not only the president that speaks about this. Romney went to great lengths during the election to explain what he was going to do to address this "problem" that exists in the American workforce.

Last night, the president even received a standing ovation when he commented on this.

So somebody, please explain what in the earth's holy [bleep], these people are talking about. I sincerely have no idea.


Travis

I think he wants women in government to be paid the same as as a high-dollar whore.

based on everything I've read, women are **in general** less willing to work long hours than men.

It's simply a function of how child/family care is set up in our society.

For example, we pay all vets the same rate (commission).

All four males work full time but only 1 of the three females does (the one without children).

The only way to "change" this is going to be by making it easier for males to provide more childcare and/or allow for more "on site" childcare at the woman's workplace

Just feel good rhetoric is all it is Travis. It sounds good to the uninformed masses, but has no substantive basis. If a politician's mouth is open chances are he is lying.

For the most part, IME, it's a thing of the past; the people that re still beating on it are simply making something out of little but women like to feel put upon & deal through emotion, so it (continues) to work many of them up.

Just all about attempting to pander to a segment of voters...........

I've been in Manufacturing all my life........women engineers were same job classification & paid the same as the boys, for example.

MM

I'm with you, don't have a clue. I think its just a bunch olf bull$hit to get a standing ovation and take attention off all the lies he has been spouting out. Hope he dies soon.

I think all else being equal is the key.

I have seen women get paid the same for equal jobs. The problem with women- my staff included- is they want to come to work late and leave early. Notwithstanding their 2 hour social lunch breaks. They do get paid the same but from an efficiency standpoint are subpar.

In my occupation that has a direct impact on my income. Give me a female worker who is postmenopausal and the kids are out of the house any day of the week.

To all of you who listened to the mulatto currently hunkered down in the white house the following. - Why didn't you make good use of your time? Say doing some reloading, cleaning out the garage, or hand dipping the outhouse at camp until it is spic and span?

I think that the obama boy ran out of lies about a year into the first reign. Perhaps, like other TV personalities he needs a ghost writer. I don't know, and I don't care. I will not listen to more lies or his misbegotten BS for a single second - life just ain't that long.


Terry

He's pandering to women, thats all. He's a self centered, narcissistic punk, who now in his second term is trying to secure his legacy. He's is so shallow but media will never call him on it.

When I went to franchise training, the franchisor told us NOT to hire women of child bearing age for key positions. Said that the chances of them taking maternity leave were too great and if they did take leave it could drive our new businesses out of business.

The guy only had about 40 years experience and had about 1,000 previous franchisees. I listened well.

He should be trying to help ALL Americans not just certain groups. If he really wants to help anyone, then he needs to help this country grow jobs for everyone, and I don't mean government jobs which should be downsized.

There was an article in the paper about a week+ ago detailing that many women who work in the AIC's own gov't receive slightly less pay for similar work done by men.. So, maybe the AIC should look at his own workforce. Maybe, if those same females can find some guts they'd all march into the Oval Office en-masse and demand equal pay..

How I'd love to hear THAT conversation..

Exactly.

Myself, I've done my best to ignore that piece of filth from the day he was first crowned emperor, and I will continue to do so. I don't listen to his speeches, I won't sit through his television appearances, and I do my best not to have to look a a picture of the punk.

I've been doing it for years now, and I can keep it up.

this......course in all reality ive alsonot seen any real difference in pay cause of gender but ive also never worked anywhere where real high salaries are the norm.....

In years past it was true that women didn't get paid the same for the same work. Those days are past, though.

Travis, at 38 I'm a little to young to have experienced the glass ceiling that is said to have been prevelant in the workforce. Like you I do not see evidence of it anywhere I am. Women are cops firefighters engineers CEO's DR's and if we keep [bleep] around, maybe soon president.. Politicial pandering and feel good rhetoric have already been mentioned. I mean no disrespect to the ladies, but that's all it is.

This. He spends all his time trying to whip up the emotional vote, the ones that got him elected, There's two kinds of voters, and the demos have figured out that the emotional thinkers are going to be more fervent in their support and more inclined to propogate. If you think about it, it appeals to the selfish side of human nature in all of us to be told we're under appreciated and help is on the way. I feel your pain, you can trust me, I am your saviour, if only you'd elect me I could help you.

Whether it's Obama or any other politician, it's best to question WHY they say what they do, more than the content of what they say. Integrity is a thing of the past with these people, it's all about election results, not governance by an instilled set of values.
IMHO.

pretty much, hell my wife has been very successful in what is a largely male dominated industry....even out here in Montana where independent women are pretty common there aint alot of them in newspaper owner/publisher positions unless its as a husband/wife team.....but then again i married my wife cause she is very much the tomboy happiest at elk camp instead of a girly-girl happiest shopping and drinking with "the girls"....as she puts it she doesnt have many women friends cause she doesnt have time for their petty bullchit

There was a speech last night??????

Hmmm

Mike