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We don't have it tough at all here in eastern Oregon at 4,500 ft compared to many others here, but I've found it near comedy watching the news the last couple of days.
Two and 1/2 to 3 inches of snow in Atlanta, Ga and the place is paralyzed for 2 days. We wouldn't even break out the plows for 2 1/2 inches. The real travesty is that half the population is blaming the government for not warning them and/or failing to clear thousands of miles of streets and highways within an hour or so. I live on the other side of this nation, and even I knew it was coming. Don't they have phones, radios, or TV's there?
We can do 2 1/2 feet overnight, the buses run in the AM, kids get to school, and everyone goes to work. If there happens to be an away basketball game in the nearest town (70 miles one way), the team loads up and goes. Since the fall of 1982, they have canceled school exactly once in this community.
Over my life I've seen snow in Texas, Florida, and southern California. PREP FOR IT PEOPLE. Buy a shovel and some chains for your rig and practice installing/using both. With half of the new rigs being all wheel drive, there's not really that much need for chains in the first place. I get by 99.9% of the time with just good quality radials.
We have 5 rigs in our driveway, three have two sets of chains aboard, and the remaining two 1 set. In all of the years here (n=32), I've chained up once and that was at 7,500 ft in Wyoming on an elk hunt. Exercise a little common sense, and one can drive on packed snow and ice from Nov through Feb without incident.
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Yep it is winter....deal with it!
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people in south La. just aren't used to ice and snow....and the government nannies of course overreact to everything these days
I've got a 4WD pickup with mudders, but most people don't and wouldn't know how to drive if they hit ice anyway
now, if you'd like to try on a 20 foot storm surge for size, we'll talk weather wimps, amigo
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. The real travesty is that half the population is blaming the government for not warning them and/or failing to clear thousands of miles of streets and highways within an hour or so. I live on the other side of this nation, and even I knew it was coming. Don't they have phones, radios, or TV's there?
IDIOTS! Indeed. Nannystatism at its worst. They knew it was coming, they were warned, yet they got out on the road without any snow tires, sent the kiddies off to school, etc. Why didn't they just stay home? Why should the governor or the mayor be held at fault for these peoples bad decisions.
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people in south La. just aren't used to ice and snow....and the government nannies of course overreact to everything these days
I've got a 4WD pickup with mudders, but most people don't and wouldn't know how to drive if they hit ice anyway
now, if you'd like to try on a 20 foot storm surge for size, we'll talk weather wimps, amigo Why do you think I live in WY? I don't like being under water. People have forgotten the laws of physics
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20 foot storm surge for size Went out of Homer halibut fishing during one of those. Only two boats left the harbor that day. We made it to the grounds, the captain announced our arrival, and then noted that we would not be staying. Amazing what a boat can get through.
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That reminds me of a halibut fishing trip out of Neah Bay
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Why do you think I live in WY? I don't like being under water. People have forgotten the laws of physics yeah, I reckon you're safe unless you get a 7,000 foot storm surge.
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Snow and ice for us isn't any different than heat for yall.
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isn't any different than heat for yall Quite true. We whine when it gets to 80 degrees, but we still get out and go.
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Yep it is winter....deal with it! ++1
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Snow and ice for us isn't any different than heat for yall. I lived in Texas when I was a kid and it gets hot here over 100 but no humididity dry heat. However at our elevation you would sun burn like an albino
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Uh crow hunter....trucks end up like that here just because the wind blows....on a regular basis....ever seen half of a double wide modular home on its roof on an interstate exit ramp?
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You got me there. It wouldn't be bad here if folks would just slow down in ice or snow,but they won't and we get what you see on the news. Me personally any thing below 30 is too cold, just makes my bones hurt. I have a lot of respect for those that keep on going when it gets cold like you have it.
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Why do you think I live in WY? I don't like being under water. People have forgotten the laws of physics yeah, I reckon you're safe unless you get a 7,000 foot storm surge. I've seen them meteor movies and the tidal waves pard....
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You are right, I don't know the first thing about driving on snow or ice.
Not many OTR tankers out and about and I cannot see chain racks on the van.
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We had an unusually "bad" frost event here , in Sierra Vista, Az., and around the general western district, some recent years back. Some valving, and "Apportionment" problems in the main NG line saw fairly large, and reputedly "Upscale" neighborhoods without Natural Gas service. There were initial frost problems at some of the municipal pump stations. Think , "No speakee frezee", and a general paucity of basic Physics,......any gut therefor. Without the forced air heat normally present in what I'd call the residential "Plastic Gin Palaces",.....the Water Company's flagging line pressure failed. Frost permeated poorly insulated outer walls, lines froze, and large blocks of homes were without NUTTIN'. The well documented sequel to this MINOR event is what riveted me,....and attracted my somewhat morbid attention. On the heels of this,.....ALL store shelves were virtually EMPTY of bottled water. The crowds that had cleaned off the shelves re-formed again the following day,.......and there was NO bottled water. Their's had all been expended FLUSHING TOILETS. ...we do have certain "standards" to maintain,....right ? GTC
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You are right, I don't know the first thing about driving on snow or ice.
Not many OTR tankers out and about and I cannot see chain racks on the van. Why don't you come on down & offer up your vast experience next time. I'm sure we could use a few more sanctimonious experts to guide us.
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I think you are in over your head with that comment...trade you some -30F weather tho...
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