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that's your 12 gauge with a shaw barrel? Curious how it shoots regards accuracy?

Those deer say it's accurate!

Yep - less tan 2" at 100 YDS when I'm half paying attention.

Depends on how you look at "performance".
My point being a ML shoots a big fat hunk of whatever you put in it. And I will put the accuracy of any muzzleloader I own up against any slug gun. It's not that I don't like SGs, but you asked for opinions and advice and I gave you my honest opinion and steered you in the direction of a quality product. In the end, either that place the grains where you want it will kill deer or whatever

My ML may not be much to look at to some, but I'd have to reckon it's kill record would be. I love the damm thing and can't seem to let it go. Have had it like 27 yrs. now. Many times I have thought of "upgrading" to a more expensive model. Problem is, I can't figure out anything I don't like about this one. It is very light, fast handling, and accurate. It has killed some great bucks too. I have another (more expensive ) ML sitting here that I never even use.........






The old Weaver Classic (1st year they changed logo to green) is pretty beat up now. Reticle does not focus as good as it ued to, tube is bent, and some finish is missing. Nelieve me when I say, I got my $125 out of it.

I have a NIB VX2 and Conquest here. One of them is going on the old muzzleloader...........

Well, I'm not the OP, so I wasn't asking for opinions, just adding a few stray comments here and there.

And I'd agree with you on the accuracy of muzzleloaders vs slug guns.

I was just cusious about your comment on the LHR because it looked like you were responding to my post and comparing it to centerfires. To me, centerfires vs muzzleloaders is apples and oranges.

Nice. What did you use for the breech cover? Leather strap? Does it do a fair job of protecting the scope?

I have a few similar design open breech face ML & I dont like the beating my scopes take if I shoot early and continue hunting the rest of the day... or on long range sessions making smoke.

Not braggin' but I've shot 3 does out of a string of 8 does with that SBE of mine.

do that with a MZ...

BTW - I have a GPR I use when the freezer's already near fill.

Now for some reason I am researching barrels for my M1 super 90. One guy was asking $800 for a slug barrel...too much but I am warming to the idea of a semi auto slug gun.

I am really warming up to the idea of the Savage 220 or a H&R. The fact that I can get either for less than $500 makes it even better. I already have a Leupold VX-II 2-7x33 to go on top.

The cover was store bought. Not sure who made it. T/C or somebody. It does keep powder off of scope pretty well, and seals breach from weather also. .....

I like my browning A5 light 12 with a hastings fully rifled barell open sights for thick cover [scrub oak] hunting of muleys and elk fast handling, 5 shots, low recoil, never jams

I hear you. And that could definitely be considered an "advantage" to some. If that is how you hunt. For me, it is a non-issue. Most all of time I already have meat in freezer by the time I bust out my ML. And even when not, I still generally only tend to ever want to shoot 1 deer at a time.

Most of the time........

If you're doing a lot of drives go with a good rifled slug gun, if not get a Savage 10ML and shoot smokeless powder, it's basically a single shot 45/70. It's ugly as sin but they shoot!

In Wisconsin we had shotgun/MZ only areas up until last year but we could also use handguns so I built a battery of an Ithica M87 Deerslayer II, Savage 10ML and a Remington XP100R in 308. I found the Ithica stayed in the safe.

yea if I did it would be semi auto.

I can buy a Mossberg 930 with 24 inch rifled slug barrel for less money than a barrel for my Benelli. Maybe its time to slum a bit, can't be that much difference in them...

I'd not compare a Benelli with a Mossberg
That said I'd not pay $800 for a barrel

Search around $800 for a barrel is crazy talk...you missed this one
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...s/5986967/Benelli_M1_Super_90_24_12_ga_r

I got lucky with mine, I got it from CDDN investments when berreta bought benelli all the old slug barrels made by ER Shaw were put up on clearance.

So my slug barrel cost me $280 bucks.

You can find them for ~600 now.

A doe and two coyotes from a tree stand with a T/C Encore 50cal in 90 minutes....................