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Nice Larry I have shot 2 deer with my Omega with in the time it took to squeeze the trigger and then reload and squeeze again, both buck Shot the 1st and 2nd ran 40 yds and stopped right on the edge of some golden rod....It was the last day of the season actually last 5 minutes of the season and I still had both buck tags 1st one I shot was a good one
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Nice!
BTW watch gun broker for slug barrels 400-600 for benelli's, sometimes even less.
- guys I hunt a fairly heavily populated doe area, so there are strings of 3-8 does in a row, I'm taking about shooting them seconds apart from each other.
Yes it's a niche - and a MZ works two because two-three string pass by each morning.
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I live in Iowa so I have to hunt with a muzzleloader, shotgun, or handgun in our deer seasons and some seasons are weapons specific. I have gone the muzzleloader route and frankly I hate the cleaning and juggling all the components. I even bought an aftermarket smokeless barrel in which I use H4198 so I at least eliminated the constant "chimney sweep" thing. And it would perform well even to 250 yds with the right load. But there is still the juggling all the powder, bullets, and primer thing. This year I just used my RRH in 45 Colt and I enjoyed a hands-free, a full, jiggling fanny pack-free hunt.
I think it's just a matter of style really. I like JBs idea of a muzzleloader--more traditional. If given a choice between the two I'd go the Savage rifled shotgun all the way (it is a rifle by the way).
The reason I haven't gone this route so far is I hunt IA's late season during which it's muzzleloader or handgun all the way--no shotgun. I have no idea why but that's the way it is.
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Tell me if this makes any sense...no rifle but I can use this Savage Striker 7mm-08
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I will keep my eye open for one in the $400 range to fit the M1 super 90. Would prefer to do so rather than buy a Moosberg, will see what comes up.
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I agree. A Savage never makes sense........unless it is a 99....
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Tell me if this makes any sense...no rifle but I can use this Savage Striker 7mm-08 That's the other thing. I've very strongly considered the T/C contender handgun but in IA we are limited to straight-walled cartridges. Even so, I've considered the 45-70 very much one year but just didn't pull the trigger on that one. Yes, I admit pun intended.
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Watch CDDN investments site as well.
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In Michigan u have to use Black powder or a Black powder substitute Page 20 in the rules. no smokeless powder
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A savage bolt action shot gun is a shot gun because it rifled Its still a shotgun So a remington 870 pump is a rifle shotgun .Ask yourself this what kind of a rifle load are u putting in
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Savage Smokeless muzzleloaders work just fine with BP or BP subs.
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Muzzleloader is the easy choice.
Shotguns are for shooting shot.
You may as well duck hunt with a Remington 700 in 30-06 while you are at it, if deer hunting with a SHOTgun doesn't feel out of place to you...... Bullschidt-there used to be just shotguns that you could also run slugs through, but now there are slug guns with impressive capabilities-200 yard shots are not out of the question today.
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Instead of trying to make a slug gun more rifle than SHOTgun(which it will never be), why not just use a rifle? Just sayin' There are many places where rifles are not legal, but shotguns are. Some folks just prefer to hunt with a shotgun too. Some of the places we hunt in Northern Minnesota, a slug gun is a good choice. There's places the deer run up there where you couldn't get a greased gerbil through those trees.
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Instead of trying to make a slug gun more rifle than SHOTgun(which it will never be), why not just use a rifle? Just sayin' There are many places where rifles are not legal, but shotguns are. Some folks just prefer to hunt with a shotgun too. Some of the places we hunt in Northern Minnesota, a slug gun is a good choice. There's places the deer run up there where you couldn't get a greased gerbil through those trees.
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GG---Rifles as in ML rifles.
Nothing about your so called "slug guns" impresses me. Nor close. Not handling characteristics, nor accuracy.
I hunt cedar swamps as thick as anything Minnesota has to offer. One shot is all I've ever needed.
There is a reason why a shotgun is shaped/ constructed like it is. There is also a reason why a rifle is so constructed. You do the math.
Shotguns are for shooting shot.......
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I beg to differ sure seems like mines shaped and constructed like a rifle...
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An A-bort ain't a rifle..........
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Nice looking gun. Like the open sights also. Been looking for a new slug gun. How do you think the Browning compares to the Savage?
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If Browning offered them in a 20 gauge I would already have one.
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I'm sure I'm repeating some posts, but not going to wade through over a hundred of them not to be redundant. Savage is the answer to this question.
I'd get a Savage bolt action 20 gauge. Try Remington Accutips in it first. If it shoots under 2" (mine shoots an inch or less) call it good and go hunting. Winchester Elites shoot good too. Not as good in my gun by 2X but still better than any other slug gun I've had.
They don't cycle well, but they are amazingly accurate. To cycle them you need to more or less rip the bolt out of the gun while rolling it to the side. I don't have that down yet.
If you decide against the Savage 220, get a Savage ML. More pricey, but they hold their value well and are nearly as accurate as the slug gun. Possibly more accurate (by a meaningless amount) if you have the time, components, and patience to find the right load combo. Oh! Use smokeless powder. I recommend N105 or N110 depending on bullet weight.
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