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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
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Hmmm...trading a misdemeanor for a capital offense. I had a talk with a teenager about that yesterday.


You need to understand that more and more you're gonna see folks like me shooting folks like you.

And by the way, I'm not the enemy....OK?


Do I need to wear orange on our next dove hunt?


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That bastard worthless POS cop should be in jail!


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Of course if somebody posted a video of a cop running to his car from a lab and cursing on his PA, everybody here would have laughed at him for being a coward and "why didn't he just kick the dog".



valid point there Blue, human nature it seems,

whistle most of us would have played that SB waaaaay different than Peyton Manning did shocked blush


but my fave is issac, somebody told me when he watches porn, he often refrains "I'd have really slammed it home"


not saying it ain't a tough job, you'd be hard pressed to pay me enough to do what you guys do. Pretty sure I don't have the temperament for it. I'd have probably given the dog a scooby snack and shot the owner. crazy WTF is wrong with you letting your dog run loose ya idiot?


would that violate dep't policy? eek


I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Talk to Bluedreaux...you're way to smart for me. I'll just frustrate you.


Good move, Blue seems like the caring sensitive type that enjoys slamming his head against a wall.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
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Hmmm...trading a misdemeanor for a capital offense. I had a talk with a teenager about that yesterday.


Clear and present danger to my life and that of my family. The alternative is to hope that the violence ceases on its own and that the aggressor doesn't shoot me or mine next.

You might be willing to take that bet; I'm not, especially when the aggressor has already shown a propensity for violence, is armed, and clearly not acting in a rational manner while showing me that he is a threat to me and mine. The badge isn't a excuse to commit crimes, nor is it a justification for violence against others. Clearly this is not a thought among some in the LEO community (the POS in the video who will quite likely not lose his job).


So after the cops kill you or you're fried or you're in prison for forever and ever, I'm sure your family will rest easy knowing that you avenged Fido.


They'll probably rest just as easy knowing that there are cops out there with a penchant for committing crimes and committing violence against innocent people - on those people's own property - and then getting away with it.

Good to know that the officers will go home safe, though, and that they'll be protected in their criminal and violent actions because they have immunity to commit those with impunity and only the "mere subjects" will pay the price.

Of course, if I showed up on your yard and shot your dog, then headed toward your home while still armed, I'd be shot dead (rightfully so) with no harm coming to you. Nice double standard there, Herr Staatspolizei


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they still have a duty to respond and protect?


Taking civil liability out of the picture and absent a specific statute where do you find that?



In the job description. Kinda like a doctor's 'sposed to do no harm, but still sticks his finger up your ass.

Yeah, that's where I was aiming (no pun intended but appreciated). An employment and political issue, not a legal one. And do no harm and don't piss people off if you can avoid it. My uncle ran the Sioux Falls department that way with an emphasis on police/citizen relations. Lo and behold crime went down and people (the good ones anyway) were happy to see the cops.


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Advancing on a dog that is warning you is stupid. That dog was scared but retreating. It never advanced on the cop. My blood is boiling.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
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Look, I offered. If you don't want me to explain it, all you have to do is say so.


You can't explain what you don't understand. Your position is erroneous in both fact and law.

Please offer citations from SCOTUS cases that establish your position counter to Warren and Castle Rock. You won't be able to, as they don't exist.


So.....that's a no?


Again, you haven't a clue, have no position, have no facts, and have no law.

Oh, but you have a shiny badge�

Have fun with that, as it's all you've got. Then again, that makes you "always right', at least in your own mind. Just go home safely, as that's really all that matters...


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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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If you have ever been bitten by a dog that size, you might have a different idea about what a friendly dog really is...



I can relate since I was attacked by a pit bull (and had to kill it), but this just sickens me. That lab was no threat to the pos officer. He kicked at it to instigate it and it did not attack. That POS needs to lose his job..


Good grief, and you lot whinge about the leftists being a pack of bambi-ists.


I have been around dogs, horse, cow, etc all of my life and IMHO that dog did not need to be shot. I would not have kicked at him nor would I have shot him.



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How about signing your name to all the tough, butch, machismo stuff so the local coppers will know to avoid your toughness in the future.


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Its a shame that guy didn't work for a department that could afford pepper spray. Just don't let any of the rowdy kids loose in the yard on a Birthday if you live in that town.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Hmmm...trading a misdemeanor for a capital offense. I had a talk with a teenager about that yesterday.


You need to understand that more and more you're gonna see folks like me shooting folks like you.

And by the way, I'm not the enemy....OK?


Do I need to wear orange on our next dove hunt?


Of course not, remember...I'm not the enemy.

And I'm gonna be ready for this year. I'm gonna practice and practice and practice, then bring a bunch of extra shells.


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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by shrapnel

If you have ever been bitten by a dog that size, you might have a different idea about what a friendly dog really is...



I can relate since I was attacked by a pit bull (and had to kill it), but this just sickens me. That lab was no threat to the pos officer. He kicked at it to instigate it and it did not attack. That POS needs to lose his job..


Good grief, and you lot whinge about the leftists being a pack of bambi-ists.


I have been around dogs, horse, cow, etc all of my life and IMHO that dog did not need to be shot. I would not have kicked at him nor would I have shot him.


So apply to the cop force and show everyone how the job should really be done.


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I haven't met an expert rifleman yet that was worth a shyt with a shotgun...though most think they are. smile


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It all changed when they went from being "Peace Officers" to "Law Enforcers".

en�force (ĕn-f�rs′, -fōrs′)
tr.v. en�forced, en�forc�ing, en�forc�es
1. To compel observance of or obedience to: enforce a law.

2. To impose (a kind of behavior, for example): enforce military discipline.

3. To give force to; reinforce:


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by FieldGrade
Why is it always the dog?
I'd have a much better opinion of LEO's if they'd shoot a cat once in a while.
Cats that don't scramble out of the way usually get stomped to death by cops rather than shot.

For the cops here supporting the dog shooting cop, how is it that so many people whose jobs bring them into frequent contact with dogs, e.g., carpet cleaners, plumbers, dishwasher repairmen, etc., seem to be able to go through life without shooting people's dogs?


Great point
He knew he screwed up the start over was
OK I came to me senses

These guys have tough jobs and I think they should get the benefit of the doubt
but this man was a hot head or had a bad day going
If you listen he doesnt sound very well educated

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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux


Of course not, remember...I'm not the enemy.

And I'm gonna be ready for this year. I'm gonna practice and practice and practice, then bring a bunch of extra shells.


yeah, the coppers here can't hit shyte either.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
I haven't met an expert rifleman yet that was worth a shyt with a shotgun...though most think they are. smile


HAHAHAHA.....I just keep wanting to AIM it!


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You all do.


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