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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Brad] #8613112 02/23/14
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For $27 I will give it a shot. Thanks Brad.

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: mtmiller] #8613119 02/23/14
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You bet MT... I'm going to get one "just because."


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: SnowyMountaineer] #8615489 02/24/14
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Originally Posted by SnowyMountaineer
This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen.
Anything to help at anytime! laugh

Now if I could just spend more time where ounces mattered...

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Originally Posted by pointer
Originally Posted by SnowyMountaineer
This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen.
Anything to help at anytime! laugh

Now if I could just spend more time where ounces mattered...


Agreed. How about a lightweight custom-fit hiking boot thread? My VanGorkums weigh 6.5lbs! Great fit, and great construction, but those extra ounces-------or pounds in this case------------take their toll by day's end.


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: 222Rem] #8617199 02/24/14
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VanGorkums! Unless something's changed, if I could afford a pair of those I could afford more plane tickets to places where ounces matter. wink I'd love a pair of custom boots someday, just haven't been able to justify the cost. Someday though...

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: mtmiller] #8617534 02/24/14
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You think a 600 Ti mug will fit in it? I've been looking at a Snopeak 900 set, but that Olicamp is slick.

Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: pointer] #8617566 02/24/14
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Originally Posted by pointer
VanGorkums! Unless something's changed, if I could afford a pair of those I could afford more plane tickets to places where ounces matter. wink I'd love a pair of custom boots someday, just haven't been able to justify the cost. Someday though...


I bought 'em before the prices and wait times went completely insane. I'd DEARLY LOVE to have normal feet that allowed me to walk into a good shop and find boots that fit. It's just never going to happen. frown


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: 222Rem] #8619280 02/25/14
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I had to order one also.



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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: snubbie] #8622270 02/25/14
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[quote=snubbie] One "weakness" I have is a fear of running out of fuel [quote]

I learned the hard way that after a canister has been used, even once, it can leak and go empty. I always take an extra now, either full or partially used, depending on how many days I'll be out.

I just ordered the cup and off board stove combo and will post a review. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007S..._=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: kcnboise] #8622534 02/25/14
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I just started weighing my gas canisters and writing the weight on the can so I know how much is left. As soon as I have an empty one I'll have a good base # to know how many oz. are left in a tank.

I've had one of those Olicamp pots for a while. You'll want a stove with a fairly small diameter burner so the flame goes inside the base of the heat transfer ring. My old stoves flame hit the bottom of the outer ring of the base and a lot of the flame went outside it and up the side of the pot If I cranked it too high.

Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: tkinak] #8623008 02/26/14
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Originally Posted by tkinak
I just started weighing my gas canisters and writing the weight on the can so I know how much is left. As soon as I have an empty one I'll have a good base # to know how many oz. are left in a tank.



That's exactly how I keep track of my gas canisters (I use Snowpeak Giga brand ProIso).

Weight Full: 7.4 oz's
Weignt Empty: 2.9 oz's

I keep the two above no's written on the bottom in sharpie, and weigh and date the canister at the end of every trip.

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Brad] #8624285 02/26/14
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I've always floated them in water to see how much is left. Now they print the process on the MSR cans (what I use)

I never take a half gone can on a trip unless it's an overnighter. I use my partials in the Jetboil to make coffee in the truck. I also have a lantern that burns them. It comes in real handy at bow shoots, and fishing trips around camp.

Like somebody else said, I always burn a new canister at least once.


I like the weight idea though, I'll give it a shot.


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I'm wondering how much it would decrease the time with my alchy stove?





Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Brad] #8625133 02/26/14
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Good idea Brad





Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Powerguy] #8625466 02/26/14
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Hmm. An Olicamp XTS pot mysteriously showed up at my door today, so I decided to test it out:
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Vs. my current Snow Peak 900 Ti:
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With the Snow Peak fuel canister upside down, the Giga Stove nests pretty nicely in the pot:
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The lid snaps on, but the stove case protrudes a little, and it would probably need a rubber band to stay on:
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Next, the boil tests. First, .5L of garage temperature water in the Snow Peak:
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Then the Olicamp:
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Not what I had expected or hoped for....



Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Walker6] #8625498 02/26/14
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I noticed the fuel canister was cold to the touch after the two boils. Just to be fair, I waited an hour to let things cool, then repeated the test. This time Olicamp first:
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Then with the Snow Peak:
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If nothing else, it seems like these canisters lose oomph the longer you burn.

This test was done inside the garage, so there was no wind.

The flame from the Giga Stove shoots almost entirely up inside the little hole in the base of the Olicamp, but doesn't seem to really spread out amongst the Fins of Fury like I thought would happen.

As of now, best time vs best time, I don't see enough fuel savings to justify the weight penalty, at least not with my current stove. I may need to test it some more with different canisters...

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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Walker6] #8625745 02/26/14
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And a third time...using an almost new fuel canister. First, the Olicamp:
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And the Snow Peak:
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Much bigger flame this time around with the new canister. The flame was hitting the flat ring at the base of the fins on the Oli, and was rolling up the sides of the the Snow Peak about 3/4" all the way around. (I also gave the tank a rest in between boils. )

Not much difference in boil time for me. Maybe it's the cool black stuff on the Snow Peak pot that keeps it close?

I do like the handles on the XTS, though.

Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: Walker6] #8625813 02/26/14
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Walker6, that's really strange. When I tested I got as much as 2 minutes faster boil time with the Olicamp with a fresh MSR canister over a SnowPeak Ti pot. Using a Coleman WallyWorld canister that was more than half empty, I got 1 minute faster boil times with the Olicamp over the SnowPeak. The flame was obviously less intense with the Coleman canister than the fresh MSR canister.

I was using an MSR Pocket Rocket that quite frankly, sounds like a rocket used on high with a fresh canister. I mean it really pours out an intense hot flame.

I don't know the BTU output between the Pocket Rocket and your Snow Peak stove. I suppose that could make a difference. Like a canister that loses "oomph" the longer you burn, maybe a stove with less "oomph" would also equal out boil times. But I don't know of the "oomph" difference between the Snow Peak stove and the Pocket Rocket, or even if their is one. Maybe the Olicamp needs a stove that will really crank it out to realize the potential.
Dunno.

Just scratching my head here.


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Re: For Those Wanting Jetboil Results Without Buying Jetboil... [Re: snubbie] #8625865 02/26/14
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I know, I was expecting results like yours. I wonder if the breeze when you did your test made the difference? Like maybe the fins helped? Also, on your last boil, did you do the Snow Peak right after you did the XTS?

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