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For $27 I will give it a shot. Thanks Brad.
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You bet MT... I'm going to get one "just because."
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This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen. Anything to help at anytime! Now if I could just spend more time where ounces mattered...
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This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen. Anything to help at anytime! Now if I could just spend more time where ounces mattered... Agreed. How about a lightweight custom-fit hiking boot thread? My VanGorkums weigh 6.5lbs! Great fit, and great construction, but those extra ounces-------or pounds in this case------------take their toll by day's end.
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VanGorkums! Unless something's changed, if I could afford a pair of those I could afford more plane tickets to places where ounces matter. I'd love a pair of custom boots someday, just haven't been able to justify the cost. Someday though...
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You think a 600 Ti mug will fit in it? I've been looking at a Snopeak 900 set, but that Olicamp is slick.
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VanGorkums! Unless something's changed, if I could afford a pair of those I could afford more plane tickets to places where ounces matter. I'd love a pair of custom boots someday, just haven't been able to justify the cost. Someday though... I bought 'em before the prices and wait times went completely insane. I'd DEARLY LOVE to have normal feet that allowed me to walk into a good shop and find boots that fit. It's just never going to happen.
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I had to order one also.
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[quote=snubbie] One "weakness" I have is a fear of running out of fuel [quote] I learned the hard way that after a canister has been used, even once, it can leak and go empty. I always take an extra now, either full or partially used, depending on how many days I'll be out. I just ordered the cup and off board stove combo and will post a review. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007S..._=pe_385040_30332190_TE_3p_M3T1_ST1_dp_1
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I just started weighing my gas canisters and writing the weight on the can so I know how much is left. As soon as I have an empty one I'll have a good base # to know how many oz. are left in a tank.
I've had one of those Olicamp pots for a while. You'll want a stove with a fairly small diameter burner so the flame goes inside the base of the heat transfer ring. My old stoves flame hit the bottom of the outer ring of the base and a lot of the flame went outside it and up the side of the pot If I cranked it too high.
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I just started weighing my gas canisters and writing the weight on the can so I know how much is left. As soon as I have an empty one I'll have a good base # to know how many oz. are left in a tank.
That's exactly how I keep track of my gas canisters (I use Snowpeak Giga brand ProIso). Weight Full: 7.4 oz's Weignt Empty: 2.9 oz's I keep the two above no's written on the bottom in sharpie, and weigh and date the canister at the end of every trip.
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I've always floated them in water to see how much is left. Now they print the process on the MSR cans (what I use)
I never take a half gone can on a trip unless it's an overnighter. I use my partials in the Jetboil to make coffee in the truck. I also have a lantern that burns them. It comes in real handy at bow shoots, and fishing trips around camp.
Like somebody else said, I always burn a new canister at least once.
I like the weight idea though, I'll give it a shot.
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I'm wondering how much it would decrease the time with my alchy stove?
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I noticed the fuel canister was cold to the touch after the two boils. Just to be fair, I waited an hour to let things cool, then repeated the test. This time Olicamp first: Then with the Snow Peak: If nothing else, it seems like these canisters lose oomph the longer you burn. This test was done inside the garage, so there was no wind. The flame from the Giga Stove shoots almost entirely up inside the little hole in the base of the Olicamp, but doesn't seem to really spread out amongst the Fins of Fury like I thought would happen. As of now, best time vs best time, I don't see enough fuel savings to justify the weight penalty, at least not with my current stove. I may need to test it some more with different canisters...
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And a third time...using an almost new fuel canister. First, the Olicamp: And the Snow Peak: Much bigger flame this time around with the new canister. The flame was hitting the flat ring at the base of the fins on the Oli, and was rolling up the sides of the the Snow Peak about 3/4" all the way around. (I also gave the tank a rest in between boils. ) Not much difference in boil time for me. Maybe it's the cool black stuff on the Snow Peak pot that keeps it close? I do like the handles on the XTS, though.
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Walker6, that's really strange. When I tested I got as much as 2 minutes faster boil time with the Olicamp with a fresh MSR canister over a SnowPeak Ti pot. Using a Coleman WallyWorld canister that was more than half empty, I got 1 minute faster boil times with the Olicamp over the SnowPeak. The flame was obviously less intense with the Coleman canister than the fresh MSR canister.
I was using an MSR Pocket Rocket that quite frankly, sounds like a rocket used on high with a fresh canister. I mean it really pours out an intense hot flame.
I don't know the BTU output between the Pocket Rocket and your Snow Peak stove. I suppose that could make a difference. Like a canister that loses "oomph" the longer you burn, maybe a stove with less "oomph" would also equal out boil times. But I don't know of the "oomph" difference between the Snow Peak stove and the Pocket Rocket, or even if their is one. Maybe the Olicamp needs a stove that will really crank it out to realize the potential. Dunno.
Just scratching my head here.
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I know, I was expecting results like yours. I wonder if the breeze when you did your test made the difference? Like maybe the fins helped? Also, on your last boil, did you do the Snow Peak right after you did the XTS?
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