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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Okay, what service. Ordered Friday, received today, woohoo, woohoo! So I decide to do a comparison, fist inside. I used a Titanium Snow peak cup with 24 oz of cool tap water. Boil time took 5:14So then I use the Olicamp with 24 oz of cool tap water. Boil time was 4:12 or about 1 minute time savings. Then I went outside. I put the stove on a non-solid table, no wind screen, and cold water. There was a small breeze that would occasionally "gust" enough to blow out a bic lighter. I used 20 oz of water. The Snow Peak boil time was 5:45The Olicamp boil time was 4:15 or about 1:30 time savings. At this point I'm thinking these times are unusually long. I'm on the tail end of a tank of the Coleman propane mix you can find at Wally World. I believe I wasn't getting quite as an intense flame because of dropping pressure. I wonder if the MSR IsoButane mix burns hotter? So I head back downstairs and find a new canister of MSR ISoButane. I refill the Olicamp with 20 oz of cold water and fire it up. I hear the familiar Pocket ROCKET sound. Obviously more pressure. The Olicamp boil time was 1:19 ! The Snow Peak pot boil time was 3:15 or almost 2 minutes more time. So the Olicamp reduces boil time for an average pot (20 oz.) as much as 1-2 minutes faster. So in my post-op, narcotic influenced brain, I figure I can get 12-20 minutes more boil time per 8 oz canister, based on the number of "boils" I typically get out of a canister. I realize none of this is scientific by any means, but this pot will give CONSIDERABLE more mileage out of each canister. I also believe the MSR IsoButane burns hotter than the Coleman Butane/propane blend, which is something I've suspected for some time.
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Of course, shorten boil time means getting more boils per canister. Getting 15 more minutes of boil time from a canister could mean an extra day or two on a multi-day backpack trip...which in my mind is huge! The Olicamp also has silicon handles which don't get hot like the Snow Peak or a stainless or aluminum pot. Also a silicon lid, and a canister, lighter and a few doo-dads will fit inside the pot. The mesh bag is big enough to fit the Pocket Rocket and a spoon or two. I suspect a smaller stove would fit inside the pot along with a canister but the PR is a little too big to fit.
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Cool i have one on the way.Can you fit the stove and canister in the pot?
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Nice. Will those handles come off easily?
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Cool i have one on the way.Can you fit the stove and canister in the pot? Nice. Will those handles come off easily? A smaller stove than the Pocket Rocket would fit inside with a canister. The PR is a hair too large, even out of its little plastic case. Maybe a MicroRocket, or another stove. Those handles fold over to the side, like a lot of backpack pots including the Snow Peak Titanium I have. They are coated in silicon and apparently stay cool enough to handle. The will remove though I cannot imagine why one would want to remove them. The lid is a soft silicon rubber with a vent that actually snaps on.
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Sbubbie, thanks for taking time to do a review... beats sitting around the house recovering!
Your results are right in line with those I've been told.
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Bwah never saw the stored picture before my post.Well the mesh bag will make it work
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This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen.
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This is one of those amazingly rare campfire threads that is useful. Thanks Brad and Snubbie, and pointer for the picture of Dan's windscreen. Don't thank me, thank Brad. I had never heard of this until Brad posted it yesterday. And it is one of those pieces of gear that actually works and apparently well. One "weakness" I have is a fear of running out of fuel with one canister. So far, I've slipped by on one...barely at times. This will get me at least an extra day on one. Now if I could something to do the same thing on my Tundra!
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Snub love your enthusiasm! For me and my needs my Stoic Mug and Lite Max(SP) come in at 4.8oz....
The oilcamp's come in at 7.4oz.
I'm totally set the way I am but, I really like the weight and surface area of the oilcamp stove. I might buy one to see "if" it fits in my Stoic mug and compare burn times for the oilcamp with the SP.
Your Pocket Rocket is a solid stove and given conditions I'd take it anyday over the JB.
So if you get rid of your pocket rocket container will your stove fit inside your mug/pot?
My lighter,stove,Ti spork and canister all fit inside my Stoic Mug...
I know alot of guys dig the Jetboil but It's far from bomb proof and takes up twice the space for my needs.. So I tend to bash it. Especially at its price..
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I agree....that setup works great. Though since I'm usually with my wife we use the Sumo now as its faster over all and we make two dinners at the same time and 230 gram canisters fit inside. However when going solo or want a back up stove on a fly out the Soto/jetboilette still comes along. But if you don't already have a jetboil PCS pot then this $30 pot could be a great option as well.
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Lanche, too bad the photos are gone from your thread... I think it would be a good addition to this thread w/ pics.
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I still have them Brad, jsut moved them in my photobucket account which broke the links: Standard jetboil PCS next to the cut down jetboilette: Jetboilette/Soto combo, next to Standard jetboil cup and stove: Jetboilette with Soto stove, 100 gram canister, and support legs inside: Jetboil setup with Jetboil stove and 100 gram canister and support legs inside: I think a SOL TI with 3 notches to accept a Jetboil could be a really sweet option!
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Nice. Obviously you'd have to have a way to roll the cut top, yes?
For reference, the Sol Ti with full canister is 16.8 oz's.
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Yeah it was on a lathe here at work The main savings with the Sol TI would be cutting out the notches on it so you can run the lighter Soto Stove over the jetboil one. Likely talking 2 oz at best though. If I were doing this to the SOL Ti obviously I wouldn't worry about cutting it shorter and just have the notches cut out 120 degrees apart.
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Looking at your photos, without being shortened I'd think the Sol pot (Ti/Al) would get pretty top-heavy/tippy?
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Hasn't been my experience even when using my buddies standard PCS pot with just the notches cut in it with it.
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Good to know. Thanks for the addition to this thread.
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