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Redneck, that is a scary statement and hopefully will prove to be false.

Times are changing. I hope my grandkids will have the freedoms and opportunities that I have had. One thing is for sure. They will have a big debt dropped in their laps



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Yep, people are getting exactly what they want. If the so called conservatives there couldn't see this coming 30 years out then shame on them.


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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by 89tenbus
Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

My question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.



Steve, in all honesty your comments are sounding like you include CT gun owners in the mix here. I certainly hope that is not what you mean. You know there are thousands of gun owners here (all good guys) who did not vote for any of this sheit nor a dem. however, there are some gun owners here who have voted dem in the past and are coming around to see the bigger picture. A little too late? I don't know...we'll see. There are many reasons to vote out dems here in CT in the next election, not just gun laws.

Now, if you or anyone else will not help the gun loving people of CT, would you mind shutting the [bleep] up already. I'm 48 years a Republican, I didn't the cause the CT sheitstorm (democratic parade of Newtown victims did that), insure as [bleep] didnt vote for anyone in the majority whompassed that law.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by 89tenbus
Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

My question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.

I guess I come from a pre-1861 view of the Constitution. IMO if the group (voters in that state) vote to leave the union then their wishes should be respected and they should be released on the friendliest of terms. The individuals who don't like that should be welcomed into the bulk of our country with open arms. What should NOT be allowed is the flaunting of our laws of which the Constitution is the capstone, before they bow out. The South should have stayed and forced the North to be the ones to leave since they didn't like how things were set up to begin with. Instead, radical new interpretations of the law were embraced and the South got mad and left instead of staying the course. This set them up for military defeat and the new radicalized interpretations of the Constitution's meaning.

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Originally Posted by CLB
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by 89tenbus
Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

My question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.



Steve, in all honesty your comments are sounding like you include CT gun owners in the mix here. I certainly hope that is not what you mean. You know there are thousands of gun owners here (all good guys) who did not vote for any of this sheit nor a dem. however, there are some gun owners here who have voted dem in the past and are coming around to see the bigger picture. A little too late? I don't know...we'll see. There are many reasons to vote out dems here in CT in the next election, not just gun laws.

Now, if you or anyone else will not help the gun loving people of CT, would you mind shutting the [bleep] up already. I'm 48 years a Republican, I didn't the cause the CT sheitstorm (democratic parade of Newtown victims did that), insure as [bleep] didnt vote for anyone in the majority whompassed that law.



...and what would you like for help?
Would you like the NRA to spend more time and money rescuing you. BTW, how many Gun owners in the State of CT and how many are members of the NRA?

Would you like fellow gun owners from across the country to drop what they are doing, at a great personal expense, to drive to CT and help you protest? Why? The next election will just bring more of the same.

You want help, start in your own back yard with your fellow gun owners. If you cannot get them on-board to help, why should you expect help from afar.

As Steelhead put it.

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There are more gun owners in CT than the number that voted for Malloy.

Time for people in other places to realize that votes can matter.



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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CLB
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by 89tenbus
Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

My question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.



Steve, in all honesty your comments are sounding like you include CT gun owners in the mix here. I certainly hope that is not what you mean. You know there are thousands of gun owners here (all good guys) who did not vote for any of this sheit nor a dem. however, there are some gun owners here who have voted dem in the past and are coming around to see the bigger picture. A little too late? I don't know...we'll see. There are many reasons to vote out dems here in CT in the next election, not just gun laws.

Now, if you or anyone else will not help the gun loving people of CT, would you mind shutting the [bleep] up already. I'm 48 years a Republican, I didn't the cause the CT sheitstorm (democratic parade of Newtown victims did that), insure as [bleep] didnt vote for anyone in the majority whompassed that law.



...and what would you like for help?
Would you like the NRA to spend more time and money rescuing you. BTW, how many Gun owners in the State of CT and how many are members of the NRA?

Would you like fellow gun owners from across the country to drop what they are doing, at a great personal expense, to drive to CT and help you protest? Why? The next election will just bring more of the same.

You want help, start in your own back yard with your fellow gun owners. If you cannot get them on-board to help, why should you expect help from afar.

As Steelhead put it.

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There are more gun owners in CT than the number that voted for Malloy.

Time for people in other places to realize that votes can matter.

What comes around goes around. S Head lives in a comfortable 60% against Obama state, IIRC. So do I. You live in a pro-Obama state so your turn in the barrel may be next. I hear what y'all are saying, but there it is. No offense intended.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CLB
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by 89tenbus
Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

zMy question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.



Steve, in all honesty your comments are sounding like you include CT gun owners in the mix here. I certainly hope that is not what you mean. You know there are thousands of gun owners here (all good guys) who did not vote for any of this sheit nor a dem. however, there are some gun owners here who have voted dem in the past and are coming around to see the bigger picture. A little too late? I don't know...we'll see. There are many reasons to vote out dems here in CT in the next election, not just gun laws.

Now, if you or anyone else will not help the gun loving people of CT, would you mind shutting the [bleep] up already. I'm 48 years a Republican, I didn't the cause the CT sheitstorm (democratic parade of Newtown victims did that), insure as [bleep] didnt vote for anyone in the majority whompassed that law.



...and what would you like for help?
Would you like the NRA to spend more time and money rescuing you. BTW, how many Gun owners in the State of CT and how many are members of the NRA?

Would you like fellow gun owners from across the country to drop what they are doing, at a great personal expense, to drive to CT and help you protest? Why? The next election will just bring more of the same.

You want help, start in your own back yard with your fellow gun owners. If you cannot get them on-board to help, why should you expect help from afar.

As Steelhead put it.

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There are more gun owners in CT than the number that voted for Malloy.

Time for people in other places to realize that votes can matter.




Ah, the liberal state of Minnesota lecturing the liberal state of Connecticut on the dangers of liberalism. laugh

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Originally Posted by moosemike
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by CLB
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
[quote=89tenbus]Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

zMy question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.



I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.



There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.



Steve, in all honesty your comments are sounding like you include CT gun owners in the mix here. I certainly hope that is not what you mean. You know there are thousands of gun owners here (all good guys) who did not vote for any of this sheit nor a dem. however, there are some gun owners here who have voted dem in the past and are coming around to see the bigger picture. A little too late? I don't know...we'll see. There are many reasons to vote out dems here in CT in the next election, not just gun laws.

Now, if you or anyone else will not help the gun loving people of CT, would you mind shutting the [bleep] up already. I'm 48 years a Republican, I didn't the cause the CT sheitstorm (democratic parade of Newtown victims did that), insure as [bleep] didnt vote for anyone in the majority whompassed that law.



...and what would you like for help?
Would you like the NRA to spend more time and money rescuing you. BTW, how many Gun owners in the State of CT and how many are members of the NRA?

Would you like fellow gun owners from across the country to drop what they are doing, at a great personal expense, to drive to CT and help you protest? Why? The next election will just bring more of the same.

You want help, start in your own back yard with your fellow gun owners. If you cannot get them on-board to help, why should you expect help from afar.

As Steelhead put it.

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There are more gun owners in CT than the number that voted for Malloy.

Time for people in other places to realize that votes can matter.




Ah, the liberal state of Minnesota lecturing the liberal state of Connecticut on the dangers of liberalism. laugh [/quote]

Like I said, I live in a liberal hell hole and I know what I am talking about.
Begging for help from afar is going to do nothing to change the political climate of CT or MN.
I know what is coming down the pike here in MN.
The 2nd Amendment organizations I donate $$ to are very concerned. My last news letter indicated that $millions$ from Bloomberg and the like are pouring in and we are pretty much screwed. ..and yes when it all collapses and MN is another CT, I will have nobody to blame but myself and my fellow gun owners for not doing enough, mostly my fellow gun owners that continue to follow Union orders and vote DFL.

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Unlike many 2nd amendment issues we can all address, this one belongs to the STATE OF CONNECTICUT. When it gets to the Federal level, we all have a dog in the hunt.

Connecticut will win this battle if they want too.


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Unlike many 2nd amendment issues we can all address, this one belongs to the STATE OF CONNECTICUT. When it gets to the Federal level, we all have a dog in the hunt.

Connecticut will win this battle if they want too.


How so? At the voting booth? That's a laugh and you know it.


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Well I'm glad to see that this thread is still going. Just to clarify what we are dealing with here in CT. The republican minority house leader, who is republican voted for this mess and basically bullied the other republicans to do the same. A good many of the republican candidates for governor either voted for the bill or endorsed it. None of them are willing to say they would try to repeal it if elected this fall.

So basically we are screwed no matter how WE vote.

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That means democrats are the majority. Do you have the actual vote tally?


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Originally Posted by ltppowell
Unlike many 2nd amendment issues we can all address, this one belongs to the STATE OF CONNECTICUT. When it gets to the Federal level, we all have a dog in the hunt.

Connecticut will win this battle if they want too.


I feel like i should at least do something, feel like someones fookin with one of my little brothers, 100K gun owners on the capitol wouldn't make a statement?

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Unlike many 2nd amendment issues we can all address, this one belongs to the STATE OF CONNECTICUT. When it gets to the Federal level, we all have a dog in the hunt.

Connecticut will win this battle if they want too.


I feel like i should at least do something, feel like someones fookin with one of my little brothers, 100K gun owners on the capitol wouldn't make a statement?

Gunner
Also, consider this. Looking at it as a state matter, you have one of our states basically flaunting Constitutional law and being guilty of sedition. If one does it, more could follow. Sure seems like we've been being bullied where states rights are concerned, for years. Now it's turned around and the Feds are all for states rights.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by ltppowell
Unlike many 2nd amendment issues we can all address, this one belongs to the STATE OF CONNECTICUT. When it gets to the Federal level, we all have a dog in the hunt.

Connecticut will win this battle if they want too.


I feel like i should at least do something, feel like someones fookin with one of my little brothers, 100K gun owners on the capitol wouldn't make a statement?

Gunner


A statement to "who". 70% of the State voted for Obama, there is your Statement!


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I feel like i should at least do something



The NRA you keep dissing, is going to take another poke at it in appeals court. Until then, marching around won't hurt anything. It'll keep Connecticut gun owners interested, pissed off, and maybe even involved. Getting them to part with lawyer money is the key. It will be decided in the courts, eventually.


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Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."

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I know that things take time to move through the legal process, however if you wait until all the stuff is turned in and destroyed, how hollow is the victory when the Supremes or some Federal Judge says they shouldn't do such things?

Connecticut gun owners should be moving their stuff to high ground immediately and prepare for a lengthy court battle. The enemy seems to have unlimited resources and collect more, from us, in order to fight us more and more, over and over. It never ends.

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