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Originally Posted by Rman
I am still not sure how you can shoot accurately enough to tell the difference in a group size to .2 grains of powder? And the longer the distance you shoot at, it would be even more difficult to tell...

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Doesn.t seem like Alan had too much of a problem with putting 40.4,40.6 and 40.8g into a nice flat line at 600 yards.

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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Take whatever rcmagulia is doing, toss it right out the window, and you'll be on the right track.


Damn you're dumb.

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Originally Posted by Rman
that you think there are zero environmental influences on your bullet over a 600 yard flight.est.
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Please point out the post on this thread or any other, where rcamuglia suggest any such thing.

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Back about 201 reply's ago, I was hoping for a answer I could understand, and believe in,

I guess that was the optimism in me........

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The pie hole is running.
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How far is that? Do you have to dial 1 and the area code before pulling the trigger?
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Nothing is comming out....

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Back about 201 reply's ago, I was hoping for a answer I could understand, and believe in,

I guess that was the optimism in me........


You didn't get your group hug either. grin

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Originally Posted by dave7mm
Two things.
Find the top end of your load.
Find the node where your rifle is giving you the least amount of vertical on the target across the biggest range of powder charge.

The farther away the better.
I like to shoot dual ladders at 500.
500 because I can still see the bullet holes.
One in early morning and one about 2 pm.
Usually good conditions early morning.
Usually crap at 2 in the afternoon.
Average it out.
dave

If nothing else you will find the top end.
I dont think 300 is far enough.
500 or 600, is better.
Alans target speaks for itself.
Try it for yourself.
Alan only fired 31 rounds.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Back about 201 reply's ago, I was hoping for a answer I could understand, and believe in,

I guess that was the optimism in me........


Maybe poker's not your game, Ike.....

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Poker is a game of chance and luck, you can only play the cards you're dealt,

Where is the similarity?

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Originally Posted by SLM


You didn't get your group hug either. grin


Story of my life.

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Poker is a game of chance and luck, you can only play the cards you're dealt,

Where is the similarity?



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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Take whatever rcmagulia is doing, toss it right out the window, and you'll be on the right track.



Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do....


















...speaking to Creighton, of course!


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Kenneth,

Of course wind has an effect. It has an effect on all development no matter which method you choose. In the case of the Audette method, wind is noted and somewhat ignored. You're looking for a series of CONSECUTIVE shots that have nearly the same POI on the horizontal plane. No vertical stringing

Most of wind's effect is L & R. Most vertical originates from barrel harmonics, velocity differences between shots


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I'm afforded the luxury of having a coupla hundred barrels to reflect upon. For those reasons,amongst others,I'm routinely able to cut to the [bleep] chase directly...though often sooner.

In fairness however,I'm rather enjoying The Smoke & Ladders saga. Laffin'!

Had THE Sleeper out to 1150yds today and Ball ammo really shouldn't do,what it do. Hoping the Bartlein 243AI shows here in a few days,along with another bushed .378" bolt...but I did get a new/replacement Loomis GLX 1141-S in today's mail.

Goose Poop stole the show today(due to the wind),but the T-Hole Sillywet Annie hung tight. Could reliably cook off 308 Ball ammo on the ice at 4Mils up from it's 50yd zero,gunning MPAJ hasty rest offa da hood(no bags).

Hope to have some weather when the 243AI shows and I'll roll some tape for you stupid [bleep] to chew on...but it'll snap you and ladders both.

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Looking forward to the show!

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Originally Posted by Boxer


The most 54 for the least jingle is via Mark Chesebro and his 1407R Conversions,as he took the reigns from Mac. For some reason,he's slammed and they's takin' a spell.(grin)

I'd have him D&T at least (1) base hole,in synch with the DIP 25MOA 1913,to act solely as a recoil stop. Them receivers are harder than the hubs of hell and you might not be able to coax him into all (4).

Hint.


Hate to de-rail the Werner vs Louisville discussion but this is the freaking best info I've seen in the thread so far by a mile. Maybe the best dang thing I've read in months. Details on the conversion Boxer? 14xx coverted to 17xx bolt? Trigger?

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Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Two things.
Find the top end of your load.
Find the node where your rifle is giving you the least amount of vertical on the target across the biggest range of powder charge.

The farther away the better.
I like to shoot dual ladders at 500.
500 because I can still see the bullet holes.
One in early morning and one about 2 pm.
Usually good conditions early morning.
Usually crap at 2 in the afternoon.
Average it out.
dave

If nothing else you will find the top end.
I dont think 300 is far enough.
500 or 600, is better.
Alans target speaks for itself.
Try it for yourself.
Alan only fired 31 rounds.


dave


Why is it all you can ever do is quote someone else?

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ct',

It'll be sweet and concise...while bearing lotsa fruit,as per always.

Ain't done it much more than a couple/few hundred times and it ain't been but a few days,since the last.(grin)










4th,

The conversion is VERY Skookum,in my book.

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First 50yd cluster,to establish zero,with Reupold MK4 M1 10x.

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It utilizes CZ mags,modified to his mag latch and the only thing I would(did) change,is to increase the latch retention spring's ass...by swapping it out. Found that in MPAJ hasty,hittin' the deck,I could trip it unwantonly every blue moon or so. The spring swap nipped that,but I reckon some wouldn't care for the amount of retention I groove upon.(grin)

In the T-Hole McMillan,the mag rides FULLY recessed,so the original spring woulda worked better there. That being said,I've no inclination to swap back.


2-stage trigger,at mebbe 1 oz.

It ohhhhhh soooooooooo [bleep] ROCKS.

Do it.

Hint.










rosco',

SquatToPee is the best Parrot and will go FULL [bleep] Mall Ninja to boot...all obliviously,which is the best [bleep] part.(grin)

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Originally Posted by rosco1
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Originally Posted by dave7mm
Two things.
Find the top end of your load.
Find the node where your rifle is giving you the least amount of vertical on the target across the biggest range of powder charge.

The farther away the better.
I like to shoot dual ladders at 500.
500 because I can still see the bullet holes.
One in early morning and one about 2 pm.
Usually good conditions early morning.
Usually crap at 2 in the afternoon.
Average it out.
dave

If nothing else you will find the top end.
I dont think 300 is far enough.
500 or 600, is better.
Alans target speaks for itself.
Try it for yourself.
Alan only fired 31 rounds.
dave

Why is it all you can ever do is quote someone else?

Why,that bother you?
Two 3 shot groups fired at 600 yards.
300 RSAUM.
210g Berger LRBT
60.4g Ramshot Hunter
Norma Case.
Tula Mag Primer.
2806fps.
Obymeyer 1-11 twisted AMU+ at 28 inches.
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This load came straight off my Creighton Audette ladder test.
I dont know about you.
But ill take an inch to a inch and a quarter of verticle at 600 yards all day long.

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Originally Posted by Boxer

Goose Poop stole the show today(due to the wind),but the T-Hole Sillywet Annie hung tight....




Not sure if I've seen this one. Pics?


What about guns?When do we get guns?
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