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Finding pressure involves running a ladder of some sort, even though it will not be admitted to.
LOL
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DD, Subjectivity do not interest me,I like facts and fact is...I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess. Do not let that constat dishearten you clueless dumbfhukkers,on your perpetual quest to schlep Stupidity to places it's never been before. Kiss,find pressure and rock on. ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v136/BigStick/Stuff/Rifle%20Stuff/DAD_1600.jpg) Hint. 'Twas a serious question on my part--I'm tryin' to take the hint. You've shown how to do the "kiss" before, and clearly demonstrate the "rock on" in your posts, but I want to know the asrealasitgets version of finding pressure. Please don't have me shooting any ladders, or from ladders, or scaffolding!!! Scared of heights here 
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DD, Subjectivity do not interest me,I like facts and fact is...I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess. Do not let that constat dishearten you clueless dumbfhukkers,on your perpetual quest to schlep Stupidity to places it's never been before. Kiss,find pressure and rock on. Hint. What contour is that barrel? Whole lotta tube for a McM Hunter. Just curious....
I enjoy handguns and I really like shotguns,...but I love rifles!
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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Kimber roulette has worked out well for me 
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Jordan,
DBC = Dyna Bore Coat? All rifles?
Jason Jason, Yes, and yes. Jordan
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DD, It'd done been covered. Headed out the door,to tip over more ladders for a day.(grin) 'smoker. The Rem Hunter(shown),will accept a #8 contour,like mosta the mainstream A-Series. #6-ish shown,in the handle you cite. The Sako Hunter,will only take a Douglas-ish #4,on the other hand. Sako Hunter #3 Brux,1/2" shank 23.3" long...kissin' 105's.(grin) ![[Linked Image]](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/196/jql4.jpg) Kiss,find pressure and rock on. Hint. 'lia, Didn't mean to horn you up. You are doing "great" and really "know" your stuff. Laffin'!
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I wonder if there was a kiss before they found pressure and rocked on? LOL
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I get consistent results as posted over hundreds of rounds between cleanings. I seat to square kiss each new lot of bullets. I use DBC, and in some rifles, moly, too... The proof is on the target I need a lesson on Ballistic AE's group measuring tool. Can't quite figure it out importing a picture of a group. So, you go hundreds of rounds between cleanings and you seat bullets to "kiss" the lands? In what condition is the bore when you have determined where the "kiss" is? Clean to bare metal, after 25 rounds, or after some other number of rounds? I'll guarantee that each of those measurements differ due to the amount of fouling on the leade Also, how do you account for throat/leade wear? In as few as 100 rounds or one box of bullets, you will have some throat erosion. Your bullets seated to the square kiss will now not be. Things change quickly in the throat at first on a new barrel, then the change slows but it's always there and ongoing. Bullets/loads seated off of the lands are more tolerant in the accuracy department to this ongoing change. This, of course, is IME. YMMV PM me and let me know where you're getting hung up, and I'll walk you through the process. I kiss clean, nearly clean, or not clean, depending on where the individual barrel is at when I'm assembling the load. When accuracy degrades, I lengthen to restore the square kiss. I've noticed a trend that this typically happens in my rifles at about 20-50 thou throat erosion, which normally takes 500-800 rounds in the cartridges I shoot. This is often the case of having to chase lands after a certain amount of erosion with a load developed using the ladder or OCW method, as well, IME. It works for me as well as the ladder/OCW methods, and is quicker and easier.
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That sounds about right Jordan.
You must run some sort of "test" to find pressure and just not pull some number out of your ass like box and the other dude who makes sure he finds it by loading 11 grains over max.
LOL
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Ok, that one fricken got me.... Boxer, How do I find pressure?
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'Flave Precision just finished testing our #1 customer's rifle and all is well.
No ladders, just IPA on this one.
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I can't believe you have to ask! His posts are so concise and clear. WTF dude? Ya see, the box is afforded the luxury of not having to guess. While us stupid [bleep] are sitting on the couch with our droolin' yaps and crossed eyes fueling our imaginations with the pics of his wares that we almost had,taken in places we almost were,he's kissin',pressurizin',and rockin' We're stuck with getting our [bleep] off the couch and using OCW, Audettes, or groups...
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Jordan, I've seen me cut to the [bleep] chase. Still waitin' on the 243AI to arrive,so it can Star in a video.(grin) 'lia, You do better plagiarizing pics,than you do trying to muse rifles. Congratulations?!? 'neth, I've done did it before and several times over. 'flave, I hear good thangs about kissin',findin' pressure and rockin' on. ![[Linked Image]](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/822/3wnk.jpg) Hint.
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Kenneth, See, I told you Note to self, You da' Man Box, Thank you!?!?! Hahaha!?!? ![[Linked Image]](http://i379.photobucket.com/albums/oo236/rcamuglia/null-40.jpg)
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'neth,
I've done did it before and several times over.
Whada say we talk about me for a while? as in, how would I find pressure? RE-RE-HINT.
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'lia, I'll feign my "surprise" that The Rifle...is gettin' further and further away from you. Laffin'! Bless your heart. You were really doing "great". 'neth, One would have to actually shoot,as well as have an understanding of sizing and seating,if only for starters. All of which has been covered exceptionally well. Just sayin'. Kiss,find pressure and rock on. ![[Linked Image]](http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1600x1200q90/833/64ga.jpg) Hint.
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Kiss,find pressure and rock on.
Hint.
If you have to kiss to find accuracy then the chamber is either poorly designed or poorly executed. just sayin 
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Should be fun to watch! Post it up when ready
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These days I tend to use QL to find the expected velo at a given pressure, then load up in 0.5-1 gr increments to find the charge that gives the desired speed. Of course if I run into traditional pressure signs along the way I stop there.
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