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Now I feel pressured. I just don't know if I'm ready to go that far...
Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I'm seeing a lot of your favorite stuff all rolled together here. - HTG - 308 - chrome moly - 50mm - 4.5-14 - paint finish This must be one you really love to hate....grin You could name it 'Train Wreck' or (abortion) 'Clinic'......grin.
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R,
Would 77gr be in the node in the ladder?
I would say so. R,
Also noticed that 76gr, 76.5gr, and 77.5gr shot tighter than the final load of 76.5gr in the second pic? Seems that 76-77.5gr would work? Is it common to find a 1.5gr spread that covers the node?
Yes it is common to find a range of charges that put the bullet at the same POI. That's the entire reason the method was developed by Creighton Audette. The final load chosen rarely groups like the test loads that are at different charge weights. Sometimes the node in the test is tight like the one we are talking about, and sometimes it takes some experience to read the ones that are not as obvious. I look for a string of consecutive shots that land on the same horizontal plane Could we say that an upper level charge (your loads seem near the top of published data for a 200gr) is producing good velocity, with good accuracy? What if a guy just ran loads up to find velocity (or pressure)? He's got a window from 76-77.5gr that you've shown to do well.
Jason
With MY lot of powder, MY particular barrel, MY lot of 208 A-Max, and MY brass. That is what an Audette IS! Most guys here are shooting a "ladder" for development and don't even know it. They're shooting it in some form or another. Groups, OCW round robin, etc. at close range. The Audette is just another form of development that simplifies the others and is shot at long range where it's easy to read the results. You saw the guy's 308 Audette shot at 300 yards. Really tight. He has a good barrel that will shoot everything. To really hone in on the best load he needs to shoot the test at 600 yards so that the wheat can be separated from the chaff. Powder lots vary in burn rate. You need to shoot the development every time a new lot is had. Every rifle may be different as to throat dimensions, barrel land and groove dimensions etc. My last lot of H-4350 showed pressure in the Creedmoor at 42 grains with the same bullet. The lot I have now didn't until 45 grains. This is why you can't just say, "the load for such and such is widely known to be 42 grains", load it and think it should work. It may or may not
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Now I feel pressured. I just don't know if I'm ready to go that far...
Travis Feeling pressured? I guess you just need a kiss then rock on. P.S. Check with box and see if he can help.
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Between Flave's sheep and his boyfriends, he's got lots to kiss.
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Comedy is just not your forte.
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I guess you just need a kiss then rock on.
My bullet isn't big enough to get deep into the hole. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Between Flave's sheep and his boyfriends, he's got lots to kiss. Between TAK's rifles and quantities of spent primers he has lots of googling to accomplish. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Comedy is just not your forte. Same could be said for reality. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My .17 Rem was pretty bad from the factory. Gre-Tan to the rescue!
.308's are gayer than AIDS.
[bleep] Yo Couch!
Travis I'll remember that qoute at the Icebreaker this spring, as I pull my Surgeon .308 out of the case and stroll down the line to where you're shooting......grin!
Luck....is the residue of design...
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My .17 Rem was pretty bad from the factory. Gre-Tan to the rescue!
.308's are gayer than AIDS.
[bleep] Yo Couch!
Travis I'll remember that qoute at the Icebreaker this spring, as I pull my Surgeon .308 out of the case and stroll down the line to where you're shooting......grin! I knew when I typed that either you or Shane would be along... grin. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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We'll both show up together.......grin! All in fun!
What are you bringing over this spring? Anything new?
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B,
I made it just in time. On the list for the next batch of 1407R (next month or two). D&T two holes in the ring for DIP rail. Mark said the donors are getting scarce so this batch might be it (...get on it Travis, there are some left).
He suggested 22". What did you go with on your rifles?
Feeling like a kid on Christmas...
Jason Funny that you query this...today. As I was curious what a 6.5" chop would do too.(grin) Off to shoot zero again,clock the same lot and see WTF in general.
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We'll both show up together.......grin! All in fun!
What are you bringing over this spring? Anything new? New tube on my 7-08 and I'm more happier with it. I do have a .243 I'd love to have done and ready by then but not sure if that will happen. Patton will have his 8T .223 AI. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I guess you just need a kiss then rock on.
My bullet isn't big enough to get deep into the hole. Travis Caliber and weight don't matter. It's all about construction.
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Burns,
Say something "Proprietary"...like you're going to "tell" a Moderator.
You poor poor Whining Kchunt.
Laffin'! Lil Fish, Hang a pic of your best shot on game this year. Heck hang a pic of your best lifetime shot on game. Here is my bull this year. 4 digits on the RF. I have the video to back it up, how about you or do you just want to whine. Hang another staged pict of a POS rifle you ain't shootin at a distance you can't handle. It makes me smile. .264 Win?
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B,
I made it just in time. On the list for the next batch of 1407R (next month or two). D&T two holes in the ring for DIP rail. Mark said the donors are getting scarce so this batch might be it (...get on it Travis, there are some left).
He suggested 22". What did you go with on your rifles?
Feeling like a kid on Christmas...
Jason
I spoke w/ him the other morning and he said that 22" was easier for him to work with. So thats what I went with and like you I'm feelin' like a kid at Christmas can't get here fast enough. They're going quick 'flave....
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Mark told me the same. 22" allowed him room to work... for concentricty. Bore to crown? He said it was easier to set-up at 22" versus 19". The batch is 15 rifles, and 7 were reserved. I'm guessing mine is #8. Didn't want to spend the money right now, but it'll be a little awhile before they are ready. Plenty of time to collect cans, or sell plasma . Don't want to miss a chance at an Annie repeater like this . Jason
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He told me the same thing about the barrel length.
I also didn't want to spend money right now but I wasn't about to pass up on this deal.
I've already got things in the classifieds.lol.
I probably need to give him another call to make sure my name is on one, he said to send him an email when we were talking on the phone but I haven't heard back from him.
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Comedy is just not your forte. Logic/physics ain't yours.
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