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"Kiss,find pressure and rock on"

This is what they did to work up loads for Olympic rifles developed by some shore nuff rocket scientists! Then again, they were stupid enough to take pictures as the bullets exited the muzzle, what were they thinking?????

Also used the same method to develop loads for the 17 HMR! Loads were too hot for SAAMI specks, had to wait till little gun came around to put it all together.

Rocket scientists would just laff their azz off at ladders! Hell, they even set some world records in Registered matches with the National benchrest shooter's Ass'n with moving backers!

Light for caliber/Heavy for caliber:

"Kiss,find pressure, and rock on"

I played with the "ladder" in the late 70's, it was mental masturbation then, it is a total goat rop'en now.

"Alignment" will not be mentioned.

Kiss,find pressure and rock on.



I'm afforded the luxury,of not being forced to guess.

Hint.

Those are DINKS worthy of mounting! Laffin

I am pretty sure they would make book.

Just got done flogging on my eldest Annie 54,in it's final guise. Had (3) different scopes on it,between yesterday and today,as well as (2) stocks. In fairness...I hate wood handles more than [bleep] ever.(grin)

The 27MOA cantilever,was almost too much of a good thang. The M8 12X Reupold wouldn't zero at 50yds,nor would any of my T-16's. BKL don't make the same setup in 30mm,or I'd be ALL over tossing a 10X Fixed [bleep] in the saddle. Long story short,I went Sleeper Mode and dumped a 6x42 A/O atop it and it zero'd at 50yds,1.5MOA offa the bottom of it's adjustment range...so will reach the 400yd line on the erector. Not horrid,all thangs considered.



Though I digress.

Kiss,find pressure and rock on.



Hint.(grin)

I was pretending to shoot more 1/4" groups with the Creedmoor. 2950 is what works in Ballistic AE for drops. I actually chrono'd it today and I wasn't Imagining it.

Also shot some Ramshot Hunter through the Lightweight Creedmoor to check it out. Velocity was good with the 140 A-Max up at 2850 on the top end. Accuracy was at 2645 though.

Jump, find node, kick ass

Tip

'lia,

When you are out playing Smoke & Ladders like that,how do you keep "all"(both) of your barrels sorted out?!? Laffin'!

Hell...in a couple/few more rides on the ladder,that [bleep] thing just might shoot as well as my OEM barreled 77/22 K-Hornet do,with formed cases.

Bless your heart.

Kiss,find pressure and rock on.

Hint.

Stick,
You sortin ammo for the chesebro? If so, weight, rim thickness or both?
Any change in accuracy after the barrelectomy? A write up on your experience with those 2 rifles would be appreciated by quite a few folks I would suspect...

Yeap he was done at this time , because he was in another thread talking [bleep] how .22 ammo was too cheap and the manufactures should raise prices till they didn't sell any more .

Boxer, I always like how you bless somebody's heart.

Really!

'mountain,

I sorted by rim thickness for a spell,as well as weight...then said "[bleep] it" and been gunning it Camp Run ever since. That less any regret. Just happen to have stumbled upon a rather exceptional Lot of Bulk Fodder and that is a nice "problem" to have.(grin)

Saw where you were asking questions on RFC and I was laughing to myself. I'd not [bleep] linger and would cut to the [bleep] chase. Hint.(grin)


They are simply [bleep] WICKED good and I don't mean maybe. There's gonna be a fair number of broken hearts,when the dust settles and them on the fence drop the ball.

Re-hint.

Kiss,find pressure and rock on.

Callin tommorrow. Any effect on accuracy with the barrel chop? Did you re-ladder test after the barrel chop? (grin)

Haven't had the weather to really stretch it out,to see how it holds up,way out on the erector. At the 50yd line,it'll still stacking 'em in there...to the tune of everybody is wanting an Annie 54 in these parts.(grin)

The FUN really starts at 300yds++ and it's a riot.The MilQuad reticle is a big hit and makes chasing wind a cinch. A 25MOA DIP rail,conjoined with Burris Signature Z's,would let a guy get to the 700yd line on a 10x Fixed [bleep] with both reticle and erector in unison. I can get to 600 now and would like to have more.

I need to upload some Annie 54/MilQuad video,while using the LCD to aim with. [bleep] UNREAL what the little bastard will do.





Good schit sells itself,which is why of course...there sure as [bleep] ain't no run on ladders.

Laffin'!

B,

Mark is gonna be pissed with all this extra work you're sending his way. He's already busy with comp & varmint orders, not to mention these silly rimfires

Jason

I'm prolly good for bidness,in regards to a good bidness.

I don't do Fluff and there are them of like mind...who appreciate Good Riggin' done right.

Are you drunk?

Thanks I needed that...

Let's enlighten the village idiots on LONG RANGE load development, which was the subject before being hijacked by "look at me and my guns".. "Moving backers" is ONLY for shortrange BR where you shoot no more than 300 yards (that sure the hell is not long range), dump powder from a measure and shoot. So kiss the lands, find pressure and shoot works there.

However, the Forum is LONG RANGE and topic is not "Look at me and my guns". Try that at a Long range match and you will have your ass handed to you real fast. Seen the short range guys try and it was a laugh, they went home real humble. Plus those are not olympic rifles anyway and the real LR olympic shooters sure as hell do not load develop like that as many times the guns shoot the best way off the lands.

So seems the so called real rocket scientests are in reality only shooting "pop bottle rockets"!

Unfortunately you cna't have a civil discussion with someone who has the idea that LR shooting is one shot at a large target, IE deer or bear at what mostly isn't even considered long range in the real world.

I do come back to amuse myself with the posts... how the hell how someone can run a chainsaw has ANYTHING to do with shooting is BEYOND me.

Bounty, thanks for a clear post. One of the few in this thread.

That doesn't take anything away from letting folks do it how they want to, but when they take over a thread like a juvenile child and whine and cry it sure gets old. And runs off folks that would actually like to read and understand options on how to get from point A to point B.

Beautiful smile and happy eyes on that little girl!

[/quote] And runs off folks that would actually like to read and understand options on how to get from point A to point B. [/quote]

I couldn't agree more. Long range in the country I mostly hunt is limited to around 800 - 1000 yards. Not long range by some standards and nearing OMG range for others. Picking through inane commentary to actually find some information is frustrating at the least. Yet, I keep coming back to watch the train wreck hoping someone comes in and posts information applicable to the OP