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Those are some of the most gorgeous rifles I've seen...pure sex!! Well, I could afford it but it's my policy not to ever spend over $2500 for any rifle. Closest thing to that price has been the JOC Deluxe Tribute rifle and a Shiloh Sharps 45-90.
still, like most, I'm a great admirer of fine weapons and those are the creme' de la creme'. Now, if I were Donald Trump I'd have a safe full of them.
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The Trump boys did go on a major African Safari, elephant, buf, etc. Took some really nice trophies.
Do a word search on Trump+sons+Safari.
Looks like they had synthetic stocks on their rifles, nothing like the new Mauser 98.
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The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. It was actually made for the small ring M93. And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway.
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The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. It was actually made for the small ring M93. And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway. This is probably just another needless correction, but the 98 Mauser action was originally designed around the 7.92�57mm Mauser cartridge (more commonly called the 8 MM Mauser). And yes I understand that the cartridge lengths are the same so there is no need to have you bother going into a lot of extra detail to fill me in. BTW - a 1909 Argentine 98 action in 7X57 is a great action to build a custom rifle from.
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I am rather fond of the 7x57 built on the smaller Swede action myself. A Jim Wisner/Dean Zollinger piece.
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BTW - 1909 Argentine 98 actions were not in 7X57. They were 7.65X53 Belgian Mauser, but the Argies decided to add a milimeter and call it X54. Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and the Turks also used it.
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BTW - 1909 Argentine 98 actions were not in 7X57. They were 7.65X53 Belgian Mauser, but the Argies decided to add a milimeter and call it X54. Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, and the Turks also used it. Just reread my sentence. What I was trying to say is that an 09 Argentine action makes for a great 7X57 custom rifle which I had built. I bought two plain un-barreled 09 actions for $50 each in a pawn shop about 15 years ago. The other action is still as I bought it waiting to become something.
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Yes, the '09s are nice for custom builds. I put one together in 257 Roberts. Unfortunately, they are getting harder to find these days and they aren't getting any cheaper.
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I built my .280 Rem, on a 1909 Argie. My favorite though is a J.C. Higgins M50 action that I built a nice looking and very accurate 7x57. I've decided I may use one of either of those two on my next elk hunt. Paul B.
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The 7X57 was made for the M98! Good grief. It was actually made for the small ring M93. And the M98, but thanks for the needless correction anyway. This is probably just another needless correction, but the 98 Mauser action was originally designed around the 7.92�57mm Mauser cartridge (more commonly called the 8 MM Mauser). And yes I understand that the cartridge lengths are the same so there is no need to have you bother going into a lot of extra detail to fill me in. BTW - a 1909 Argentine 98 action in 7X57 is a great action to build a custom rifle from. No where did I say originally and the statement I made was and is correct. The 7X57 was chambered for all the Mauser variants, including the M98. My comment was in reguards to another comment made by another poster that the 7X57 is too short for the M98. It isn't and I thought a simple one sentence reply would suffice, apparently not. Further more .30-06 length cartridges will not fit in a lot of M98 actions without deep seating because the the bottom metal was designed for **X57 cartridges, INCLUDING the 7X57. That's one of the things that made them so reliable and gave them the reputation they have today is the magazine box was designed for a particular cartridge for that rifle. Winchester did the samething in thier Pre-64 model 70. That's one of the reasons high end builds get new bottom metal. If you want the most reliable feeding from your M98 and you are changing cartridges, it's a wise move to change the bottom metal with a box that's designed for that class cartridge and it's stacking geometry, not just longer. It's not just for looks, it's also a functional upgrade. The 7X57 is not too short for the standrd M98 action. It would be a great choice.
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You guys sure make a guy envious...real green! TC1-that's quite a balancing act on those first two pics!
IIRC, Eleanor O'Connor's favorite 7mm Mauser was built on the 98 action. Either way, it's a fine cartridge regardless the action.
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They say the 7x57 is a little short to fill a 98.
Note that your link shows the 7mm they chamber to be a 7X64!
"Standard Barrel length 60 cm (24"): (other barrel lengths available on request)
.22-250 Rem. .243 Win. .308 Win. 6.5 x 55 6.5 x 57 .270 Win. 7 x 64 .30-06 8 x 57 IS 8.5 x 63 9.3 x 62 (special calibers on request) For Standard:
Magazine capacity: 5+1 Overall length: 113 cm (44") Weight: approx. 3.6 kg (8 lbs)" my model 1910 costa rican mauser is a 98 large ring action built as a 7x57 in 1911.
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Okie, sweet as well! Details?
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Beautiful rifles fellows! Okie, where is the safety located on your rifle? I can't find it in the pic.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths. "there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser" "the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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