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BS.Invented people nothing more.Arafat invented them.


You can't possibly believe that bullshit.
Brainwashed.

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Study some history.These Palestinians claim to be descended from the Philistines.Island people from the Med.(people of the sea).They occupied the area we call Gaza until David the Hebrew king defeated them.They originated in Europe.These Palestinians are Arabs originated in Arabia.Jordanian till Arafat.

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Originally Posted by jdm953
Study some history.These Palestinians claim to be descended from the Philistines.Island people from the Med.(people of the sea).They occupied the area we call Gaza until David the Hebrew king defeated them.They originated in Europe.These Palestinians are Arabs originated in Arabia.Jordanian till Arafat.
So what? They were the established people of the region when the Zionists stole their land and drove them out with British help in accordance with the Balfour Declaration.

The Rothschilds, representing the Zionist's, approached the British government during WWI agreeing to use their influence over the United States to bring it into the war on the side of Britain (Most Americans resented the British and supported Germany at that time, but were dead against US involvement in the war on either side) in exchange for a promise on the part of Great Britain to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine after the defeat of Germany. That promise was codified as the Balfour Declaration, thus the leading role played by Great Britain in favor of the Zionists in taking the land from the Palestinians for the Jewish state. At the Paris Peace Conference, the Zionists (heavily represented there) raised the Balfour Declaration demanding that action on it be a part of the Versailles Treaty.

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All we did we draw boundaries and gave names to the Nations that now exist.The people didnt change.The only ones that got left out was the Kurds.You try to make it sound like the Hebrews were not already there when the Ottoman Empire fell in WWI.

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Originally Posted by jdm953
All we did we draw boundaries and gave names to the Nations that now exist.The people didnt change.The only ones that got left out was the Kurds.You try to make it sound like the Hebrews were not already there when the Ottoman Empire fell in WWI.
There were Jews living there peacefully with the native Muslims and Orthodox Christians, but only as a tiny minority. But all three peacefully coexisted there for centuries.

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The digs in Israel show two different types of building side by side dating back before Moses.It seems to show that two different people inhabited the land before the Hebrews in Egypt got there.Understand that not all Hebrews were in Egypt,just the ones that went there in the drought.The rest stayed in their homeland and were there when Joshua showed up.The ancient settlements seem to show this.Had the Jews not been given a place they would be in the same spot the Kurds are in now.Israel is a tiny place.The Arabs got the lions share and the Kurds got screwed.The Persians got Iran.The Arabs came out on top by a long way and that is not enough they want it all.


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the Jews, the Kurds, the Iranians, the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Arabs............ they all got what Europe wanted them to have. Every border in the Middle East is artificial, and was set by England, France, US, ie, the League of Nations


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
the Jews, the Kurds, the Iranians, the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Arabs............ they all got what Europe wanted them to have. Every border in the Middle East is artificial, and was set by England, France, US, ie, the League of Nations
With the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after its defeat following WWI, the West took it upon itself to do this, but that doesn't in the least discount the central role played by the Zionists/international bankers with respect to Palestine and the Palestinian people. Why the effort to suppress this central historical information?

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Arabs come from the Arabian Peninsula.Several countries there now.Arabs are not just citizens of Saudi Arabia.Arabs took over most of the Middle East at the time they took over Israel,end of the 10th century.Islam comes from Arabs.It was the first Jihad that took the Arabs across the Middle East.Eventually stopped by the French at the Battle of Tours.Those countries that now exist are made up of Arabs.Arab is a bloodline not just a country.Syria is The Syrian Arab Republic.Iran is Persian,Israel is Hebrew the rest is Arab.


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Originally Posted by jdm953
Arabs come from the Arabian Peninsula.Several countries there now.Arabs are not just citizens of Saudi Arabia.Arabs took over most of the Middle East at the time they took over Israel,end of the 10th century.Islam comes from Arabs.It was the first Jihad that took the Arabs across the Middle East.Eventually stopped by the French at the Battle of Tours.Those countries that now exist are made up of Arabs.Arab is a bloodline not just a country.Syria is The Syrian Arab Republic.Iran is Persian,Israel is Hebrew the rest is Arab.
Over vast expanses of time, populations of peoples shift geographically all over the planet. The ethnic population shift in Palestine started more than fifteen hundred years ago and had been solidly established throughout the rule of the Ottomans over that region. By the time of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, the people there had been its established population for more than a thousand years. What's your point, exactly? Spell it out.

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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Some thoughts on the current unrest in Israel/Gaza. Recently, three young Jewish teens were kidnapped, and subsequently murdered. Hamas is the entity responsible.


I'm curious: how do you know who's responsible?


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129 Israeli children and 1,523 Palestinian children
have been killed since September 29, 2000.


OK...

If we substituted the words "Meth Making Parents" for Palestinian, and "Non Meth Making Parents" for Israeli, the result would be much the same...

Why?

Because the activities of the parents, and their willingness to hide amongst their own families makes not only them, but their families targets as well. Sadly.

But, in reality, I don't really mourn young future terrorists getting taken out because of the activities of their parents. It kinda breaks the cycle if enough of it goes on...


You are aware that Israel was founded upon terrorism by terrorists, aren't you?


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Originally Posted by SansSouci
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Some thoughts on the current unrest in Israel/Gaza. Recently, three young Jewish teens were kidnapped, and subsequently murdered. Hamas is the entity responsible.


I'm curious: how do you know who's responsible?
He feels it deep in his heart.

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Originally Posted by SansSouci
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129 Israeli children and 1,523 Palestinian children
have been killed since September 29, 2000.


OK...

If we substituted the words "Meth Making Parents" for Palestinian, and "Non Meth Making Parents" for Israeli, the result would be much the same...

Why?

Because the activities of the parents, and their willingness to hide amongst their own families makes not only them, but their families targets as well. Sadly.

But, in reality, I don't really mourn young future terrorists getting taken out because of the activities of their parents. It kinda breaks the cycle if enough of it goes on...


You are aware that Israel was founded upon terrorism by terrorists, aren't you?


Good, they're my kind of terrorists.

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Originally Posted by SansSouci
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Some thoughts on the current unrest in Israel/Gaza. Recently, three young Jewish teens were kidnapped, and subsequently murdered. Hamas is the entity responsible.


I'm curious: how do you know who's responsible?


I think George Bush put out a hit on 'em.

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Originally Posted by SansSouci

You are aware that Israel was founded upon terrorism by terrorists, aren't you?
That bit of history has largely gone down the memory hole. Yes, it was Zionist terrorism that drove Britain from the region, thus leaving it to well-funded Zionists to do with as they pleased. Folks should look up the King David Hotel bombing. Ninety-one people (mostly British) were killed by that act of Zionist terrorism.

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My point is that the last of the ancient Hebrews have as much right to the land they have been living in for thousands of years as the Arabs do the land they conquered 1400 years ago.Why is that so difficult for you.


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My point is that the last of the ancient Hebrews have as much right to the land they have been living in for thousands of years as the Arabs do the land they conquered 1400 years ago.Why is that so difficult for you.
How absurd! They displaced by force and terrorism the people who were there already.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by SansSouci

You are aware that Israel was founded upon terrorism by terrorists, aren't you?
That bit of history has largely gone down the memory hole. Yes, it was Zionist terrorism that drove Briton from the region, thus leaving it to well-funded Zionists to do with as they pleased. Folks should look up the King David Hotel bombing. Ninety-one people (mostly British) were killed by that act of Zionist terrorism.


The Jews were so pleased with Menachem Begin's murders that they made him Israel's first PM. What country elects a terrorist murderer as its PM? And Americans support that? Incredible!

Americans and a lot of 'fire posters have no clue of history. They get their "facts" from MSM, and then they think that they know enough to express their thoughts, which are mostly wrong as evidenced by their MSM-lead propaganda that Romney had a chance in '12.

TRH, you are right. Most of these posters are MSN brainwashed, and they ain't got the muzzle energy to figure it out.

God left Israel a long time ago, after Israelites continued to sin against Him and preferred to pardon a murderer in order to crucify Jesus. Jews have rejected Jesus as Messiah; hence, Jews are no longer God's chosen people. Christians are. Jews who have rejected Jesus cannot get into Heaven. Only Christians who have accepted Jesus Christ as personal savior will dwell in the Kingdom of Heaven.

Israel as we know it is a man-made construct. Britain and France decided who got what in the Middle East. God had nothing to do with it.

You guys have zero clue of facts and then come on here and pretend to know 'em. No wonder were have Obamanation in the White House. We need to restore intelligence tests as a condition of voting. That why the brainwashed won't keep causing Obamas to ge elected.

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