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What is interesting with these types of threads is how few on here understand that the USA is owned by an oligarchy of rich and powerful families. This country was founded by rich and powerful oligarchy for their benefit. Yes this oligarchy has had it's up and downs over the centuries but they have reach their goal over the long haul. We are were the oligarchy wants us.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless. So you are going to quit voting? I'm serious I'm not jerking your chain.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups." Anonymous
"Self-reliance, free thinking, and wealth is anathema to both the power of the State and the Church." Derby Dude
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I would prefer this option to our current primary and caucus systems for generating candidates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_the_aboveI'm genuinely curious what portion of the US voting public doesn't vote because they disapprove of the candidates, as opposed to those who simply don't care about the voting process at all. I'd like to think that worldwide low turnouts are due more to disagreement and a perception of not being represented properly, rather than simple laziness or indifference.
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Having an interest in, and attempting to have an influence on politics and government can be a fun hobby up until you understand that nothing concerning politics is as it's portrayed,...and that there's no way for it to be influenced by the people.
As George Carlin so accurately put it,..
"It's a big club,..and you ain't in it".
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Most of the Tea Party activity in this state has been scandalous and something with which I wouldn't want my name associated. This band of nut jobs is clearly less ethical and has less regard for the law than the current office holders, hence their lack of success.
They seem to think that because they are correct on the issues, that any tactics in support of their candidacies are also correct, despite what decorum or the law might say. That makes them no better than the liberals who they seek to unseat.
Its kinda sad because on a lot of issues they are correct. Balanced budget, taxes, immigration, social policies are all areas in which I think the positions taken are generally correct. They won't get elected in most cases for other reasons, and are relegated to making sure people who will vote with them 80% of the time lose to people who will vote against them 80% of the time. That makes no sense to me but it must to them.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
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"It's a big club,..and you ain't in it". Lot of the problem. The ones that we would like to see run the country, want no part of it, and do not want to be known as a politician. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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Yeah, there's quite a few of you Horst Wessel leaguers that feel that way. But keep voting for idiots like the two women in Delaware and Nevada and we'll just keep on sliding. And for the record Raisuli, Laguna, [bleep] or whatever you're login handle happens to be, I supported the challenger in this election, but unlike you, I actually THINK beofre I vote. So anyone who doesn't come to the same conclusion as you just doesn't think...happy to disappoint you. You're one of the least informed people I've ever had the pleasure of debating. You lack the courage to challenge your own pre-conceived notions; to me that shows a lack of intellectual honesty. You're too worried you won't be in the club if you're caught in the act of thinking for yourself. So you think it's a good idea to vote out ALL, ALL incumbents regardless of their record? Simple question. That was the concept behind my original post. Obviosuly above your paygrade to capture. We obviously all have different ideas, philosophies, etc. My THINKING issue, was that to blindly support a candidadate that was proven to be completely unelectable, like that woman in Delaware was stupid. IDGAF about "clubs", so where you get that idiotic notion I have no clue. I was going to ask for specifics as to what specifc "pre-conceived" notions you speak of, but why bother. misinformed? just about every time you write something I feel compelled to step inand correct your mis-informed drivel. But not standing on principles, coming from a milque-toast "moderate" like you, I have to laugh. Lastly, and just to reiteratece what my OP was all about, I don't think voting out everybody is smart, particularly if that means replacing an existing decent individual with the likes of what we have now. ANd it should never, ever be a democrat. There are a LOT, LOT of Republicans in office that need to go (as the one that is the subject of this thread is), but ALL , ALL democraps needs to go and there is the difference that obviously evades you. Where you and I differ is what we consider important issues. You see a difference between the two parties, because you apparently follow all the crap that the two parties talk about on a daily basis. You think a Republican who voted well on some issue, or raised hell on some issue he knew damn well would never go the conservative way anyhow. Like I said before, look at what Republicans did when the held all seats of power...they acted like Democrats. Don't quite get how you can't see that. On the issues that really matter, and are ruining this nation, the two parties are in lock step. The analogy I use often...You're worried about the table scrap while a ravenous beast is devouring Thanksgiving dinner.
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless. Nothing wrong with that...but take it further an never vote for a Republican...that's just buying into their BS. The Republican party TALKS conservative, and acts either liberal or moderate.
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but take it further an never vote for a Republican.. So, who ya going to vote for? miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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We differ because you are, in my opinion-based on your posts, a left of center moderate. You keep assuming and trying to put words in other folks' mouth.. Third time now (and maybe it will sink in) I supported the challenger in this election and condemmed the establishment GOP. Then again, I was totally against that kook-female in Delaware. Didn't like the establishment Repubican either, but ANYTHING is better than ANY democrat. If that isn't the antithesis of pre-conceived and lock step, again, I can't help you. And your remedy is....?
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Does anyone think GGeek and Peedler are one and the same?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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We differ because you are, in my opinion-based on your posts, a left of center moderate. You keep assuming and trying to put words in other folks' mouth.. Third time now (and maybe it will sink in) I supported the challenger in this election and condemmed the establishment GOP. Then again, I was totally against that kook-female in Delaware. Didn't like the establishment Repubican either, but ANYTHING is better than ANY democrat. If that isn't the antithesis of pre-conceived and lock step, again, I can't help you. And your remedy is....? And that's the gist of it Jorge, and he isn't the only one that does it.
That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.
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Most of the Tea Party activity in this state has been scandalous and something with which I wouldn't want my name associated. This band of nut jobs is clearly less ethical and has less regard for the law than the current office holders, hence their lack of success.
They seem to think that because they are correct on the issues, that any tactics in support of their candidacies are also correct, despite what decorum or the law might say. That makes them no better than the liberals who they seek to unseat.
Its kinda sad because on a lot of issues they are correct. Balanced budget, taxes, immigration, social policies are all areas in which I think the positions taken are generally correct. They won't get elected in most cases for other reasons, and are relegated to making sure people who will vote with them 80% of the time lose to people who will vote against them 80% of the time. That makes no sense to me but it must to them. They sure sold us on 0 care, didnt they?
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless. Nothing wrong with that...but take it further an never vote for a Republican...that's just buying into their BS. The Republican party TALKS conservative, and acts either liberal or moderate. Wrong. No repubs voted for 0 care.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless. Nothing wrong with that...but take it further an never vote for a Republican...that's just buying into their BS. The Republican party TALKS conservative, and acts either liberal or moderate. Wrong. No repubs voted for 0 care. He STILL doesn't get it. To think of republicans as a monolith is well, stupid (hint: RP IS a Republican). Not to think as democrats AS a monolith is equally stupid.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Let me ask the obvious question here....You titled your thread as GOP & Corrupt. How is running ads that are ment to inflame the black voters corrupt? Dishonest...yes ment to preserve the status quo...yes but corrupt?
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Sarah Palin has written at great length that �If the Democrats are driving the country toward socialism at a hundred miles per hour, while the Republicans are driving at fifty�...they are both going to end up in the same place.
She is all in favor of doing something about that...�Commonsense Constitutional Conservatives want to turn the car around.�
Thanks to Obama and the mess he has made, a hole he keeps digging deeper, we will never have a better chance of turning the car around then in these next two elections.
Leo of the Land of Dyr
NRA FOR LIFE
I MISS SARAH
“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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Sarah Palin has written at great length that �If the Democrats are driving the country toward socialism at a hundred miles per hour, while the Republicans are driving at fifty�.. �Commonsense Constitutional Conservatives want to turn the car around.� When you are going a hundred you have to come back past fifty before you can stop and turn around. Slowing down is good. miles
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I will never cast a vote for a Democrat regardless. Nothing wrong with that...but take it further an never vote for a Republican...that's just buying into their BS. The Republican party TALKS conservative, and acts either liberal or moderate. Wrong. No repubs voted for 0 care. If Obama needed Republicans to pass it, he would have gotten it. Don't forget that Romeny said he was going to "fix" Obamacare, not end it.
�If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.�
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