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Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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Just wait till those 350lb black guys pound his a$$ a few times,he will be wanting a new job.
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As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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Time will tell. Always does, and it's the only thing that does.
That said, being in Cleveland is starting behind the eight-ball.
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Out of curiosity, how did you think Russel Wilson would fare against the physics of the NFL?
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I think the lad is going to find out that they don't play 'Johnny football' in the NFL. They play big boy games. This won't end well.
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If he doesn't get injured early in his career by cheap shots from frustrated defenses I think he'll do great.
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Out of curiosity, how did you think Russel Wilson would fare against the physics of the NFL? Russell is more compact and has huge hands and elusive..very tough to get a squared up hit on him. He mostly runs when plays break down, unlike Kraperdick and Manziel. Russell also has a top 5-7 strong arm.
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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I'm guessing dud! Plus, he's a douche!
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Out of curiosity, how did you think Russel Wilson would fare against the physics of the NFL? Russell is more compact and has huge hands and elusive..very tough to get a squared up hit on him. He mostly runs when plays break down, unlike Kraperdick and Manziel. Russell also has a top 5-7 strong arm. Manziel had the biggest hands in the draft.
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I'm guessing dud! Plus, he's a douche! Yep. I think he'll be humbled in the NFL. 
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Russel is a great little QB. Also take a look at Drew Brees. Those two have proved that you don't have to be 6'5" and 245 lbs to play QB in the NFL.
Hell, Joe Montanna proved that time and time again!
And they all have Super Bowl Rings to prove it!
That being said, I think Manziel is one tough dude, and will take some big shots in the Pro's his first season, by those DF players wanting to "take him out" .
Will he survive? Only time will tell. But he did have one of the best arms in College FB and did make some incredible throws from awkward positions. He reminds me of more of a Brett Favre type of QB
Personally, I'd like to see him mature and succeed. Training Camp and his first NFL Season, especially with the last place Browns will be interesting to say the least. And of course, with me being an Aggie, I'm Definately biased. But I sincerely hope Manzeil does well and shows all the Manzeil haters who love to pile on what he can really do.
Haters are gonna Hate, regardless of how well he does. Just Sayin.
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Out of curiosity, how did you think Russel Wilson would fare against the physics of the NFL? Russell is more compact and has huge hands and elusive..very tough to get a squared up hit on him. He mostly runs when plays break down, unlike Kraperdick and Manziel. Russell also has a top 5-7 strong arm. Manziel had the biggest hands in the draft. That, and Manziel is more stout than Wilson. I was a huge fan of RW coming out of college (including NC State) because of his brains and the way he runs an offense. That said, JM has similarly huge hands and is more stout/compact than RW.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Out of curiosity, how did you think Russel Wilson would fare against the physics of the NFL? Russell is more compact and has huge hands and elusive..very tough to get a squared up hit on him. He mostly runs when plays break down, unlike Kraperdick and Manziel. Russell also has a top 5-7 strong arm. Manziel had the biggest hands in the draft. Russell had the biggest hands of all of the QB'S during his draft...there like grizz paws.
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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Johnny opens against the Steelers�I hope they welcome him accordingly.
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Manziel doesn't have the mental game to be an NFL stud. End of story.
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Russell is 5' 11" 208
Manziel is 6' 210. I would say RW is a bit more stout.
Jed York does not own the 49ers; Russell Wilson does.
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RW: Hands = 10.25"; height = 5' 10.5" ; weight = 204 lbs; 40 = 4.55
JM: Hands = 9.88"; height = 5' 11.75"; weight = 207 lbs; 40 = 4.56
Numbers from their NFL combine.
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America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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But in maturity Wilson is light years ahead of JM IMHO. That is going to take time to over-come, and he may be pounded into a puddle by then.
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