|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10 |
If I had a daughter,I'd get her a Montucky or two...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10 |
Though I'd draw the line at letting a girl,shoot a Bear................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,856
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,856 |
If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5 |
If I had a daughter,I'd get her a Montucky or two............... They were on my list, we just didn't see any today. The Classic was as close as I could come. A .223/.308 set with a pair of gold rings would cover alot of ground.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,884
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,884 |
For the situation originally mentioned, I would run a Ruger 77/22 Magnum, in the original stainless/boat paddle configuration, with a Leupie 2.5 Ultralight shooting Federal 50 grain bullets.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 |
If there was a good dependable AR that weighed in under 5 lbs, I'd have one.
But there are certain things I won't settle for and the carbon/plastic guns are not for me. As to John Burns' carbon 15, I've seen too many of those have problems when a friend used to sell them way before BM bought them out. John is lucky he found a good one. Well I got a good one. I think they had all the bugs worked out about the time Bushmaster did the hostile takeover of the company. Kind of sad that nobody is making something equivalent. My nieces love the thing. Far right. They get to shoot HD ARs too. That thing is about a perfect match to the OP specs. I would love to wade into a wolf pack with it and a 20 round PMAG of 70gr VLDs.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 19,253 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 19,253 Likes: 4 |
Montucky 223/.243/.257, they would all kill wolves just fine. Can you hook me up with a link? Thanks kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578 |
If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90? Another interesting notion, which I appreciate, but the price might be a bit of a stumbling block. Not that it is out of the question, but I would probably need to make sure there were no equally effective choices at a lower price point before recommending it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 19,253 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 19,253 Likes: 4 |
Thanks for the link UPhiker.
kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,395 Likes: 2
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,395 Likes: 2 |
A P90!? Holy crap mall ninjas are real.....
You realize the 5.7 is virtually identical to a 22WMR in terminal ballistics, correct?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5 |
If you want something nice and compact, but a little heavier than you'd like, how about a FNH PS90? Another interesting notion, which I appreciate, but the price might be a bit of a stumbling block. Not that it is out of the question, but I would probably need to make sure there were no equally effective choices at a lower price point before recommending it. The 16" version is 6 1/2 pounds before optics and a loaded magazine.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,856
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,856 |
A P90!? Holy crap mall ninjas are real.....
You realize the 5.7 is virtually identical to a 22WMR in terminal ballistics, correct? Yeah, and I hate the PS90. It seemed like it would fit his scenario. He was worried about wolves (plural), which would probably mean that he wanted a semi and he didn't have the steadiness for a handgun. The PS90 is short, light, handy, overpriced and ugly.
Last edited by UPhiker; 09/01/14.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578 |
I have never worked with it, but I thought it was more Hornet/.218 Bee category.
I can scarcely imagine the look on peoples' faces when the pleasant looking old guy and the fuzzy dog go ambling past, with a PS90 slung on. That would pucker the Missoula latte crowd.
But back to our regularly scheduled programming...I am not an AR15 wonk. I do not know all the tinker toys that are out there that people are using to build them up. I posted this in the AR forum because I wanted to learn from people with more experience how light one could feasibly go in that platform.
We are on page 8 of the thread, and I really do not have a much better sense of an answer to that straightforward question than I did before, except that it is possible to go so light as to become questionable in terms of function. It is clear that Big Stick likes the Kimber Montana, but I think we learned that about 15,000 posts ago.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,189
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,189 |
Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578
Campfire Outfitter
|
OP
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 7,578 |
Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live. And if it is not reliable, it is not worth carrying.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10 |
Ever give thought to a 223 Montana?
Hint.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168 Likes: 16 |
Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live. What were the issues? Mine cycles fast and a good mag is a requirement. It is gassed pretty heavy but that does not bother me if the mag is up to the task of getting the next round set for feeding. I will replace the bolt at 2000rnds. Like a pistol gased AR it just makes sense. Sure would beat a silly bolt gun if a fellow was neck deep in a wuff pack. Oh how I wanted one of those to work and I'm sure some did but Murphy knows where I live. And if it is not reliable, it is not worth carrying. Yet mine is very reliable. And worth carrying to boot.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,104 Likes: 5 |
John, you know a lot more about AR's then I do.
What light profile barrel would you choose?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 58,625 Likes: 10 |
I've shot or got,everything thus far cited...save the P90.
Pass the Montucky 223 and hold the Fluff.
Hint...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
|
|
|
|
488 members (1Longbow, 007FJ, 12344mag, 06hunter59, 10gaugemag, 160user, 56 invisible),
2,660
guests, and
1,182
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,644
Posts18,512,487
Members74,010
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|