|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 578
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 578 |
I took my 30-06 to Idaho and my family used it to fill their elk tags, load was a 165gr Accubond at 2850fps. The first elk was shot at about 30 yards in the neck, elk dropped in it's tracks, no bullet recovery. The second elk, a small cow, was shot in the high shoulder area to anchor her as she was at the top of a very deep and steep drainage. The shot was 30 yards broadside and up hill. The bullet splashed on the shoulder blade and I could instantly see a 4" diameter wound and the exposed shoulder blade. The cow turned away and a second shot to the base of the skull put her down. During the field dressing and skinning it was apparent there was zero penetration past the shoulder blade. Maybe a fluke but I really expected better performance at out of that bullet. I have taken other game animals with the Accubond with lung shots with no issues and have yet to recover a bullet.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,638
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,638 |
Its not even bloodshot around the hole.
Something fishy...
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 578
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 578 |
You are seeing what the wound looked like after removing the hide. Believe what you wish.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,666
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,666 |
Wow, interesting. What's that? 1/2" penetration?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 52,680
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 52,680 |
This was the bullet impact at 30 yds?
Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,884
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 22,884 |
Accubomb bites again.
There are sporadic reports of them doing this--it just doesn't happen very often. But it does happen.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 953
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 953 |
Saw the same on a buffalo once. Shot at 35 yds and blew fist sized holes in the meat with zero penetration. Too soft for close range I guess
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
...broadside and up hill...
AC do you think the bullet hit at an angle and skidded instead of digging in,given the angle and the impact with the bone? A friend had that happen on a brown bear one time....not with an AB though.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,749 Likes: 18
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,749 Likes: 18 |
Bob, I've seen that very thing with a black bear and a Nosler Partition.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
pathfinder the fellow it happened to was using a 200 gr BBC in a 338 Win Mag.....can happen with the best of them I guess but never had it happen to me personally.
But I can see how it could....at 30 yards and 2800+ fps that elk shoulder would be about like a steel plate.Bullet hits at an angle and sort of deflects instead of digging in.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,330 Likes: 10
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 26,330 Likes: 10 |
pathfinder the fellow it happened to was using a 200 gr BBC in a 338 Win Mag.....can happen with the best of them I guess but never had it happen to me personally.
But I can see how it could....at 30 yards and 2800+ fps that elk shoulder would be about like a steel plate.Bullet hits at an angle and sort of deflects instead of digging in. I've seen three elk killed with AB's now.......contrary to some breathless early repots, so far I wouldn't mistake it for a Partition. Had a friend who has hunters on his family ranch, he essentially said the same thing this past month. Don't get me wrong, the AB is a better than average bullet........ Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,023
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 4,023 |
Bob I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the shot angle had it skimming along instead of penetrating the shoulder.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,157
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,157 |
Accubonds are not too soft for close range. Not even at ridiculous speeds. mtmuley
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,204 Likes: 1
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,204 Likes: 1 |
...broadside and up hill...
AC do you think the bullet hit at an angle and skidded instead of digging in,given the angle and the impact with the bone? A friend had that happen on a brown bear one time....not with an AB though. I have seen this twice on white tails.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
MM: I never said they were.... I said it could have skidded instead of digging in because of the angle of the shot..... That has nothing to do with softness. It has to do with the angle it impacted the shoulder bone.
Is an AB the toughest bullet you've used?
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
Bob I was thinking the same thing. Maybe the shot angle had it skimming along instead of penetrating the shoulder. 805: Exactly my thought.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423 |
Any chance that bullet hit something else first a stick or tree top I have been finding these cases are due to unseen bullet breaking obstacles. Happen two times this year to our hunting crew both animals had to be shot twice.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 8,423 |
In fact the buck in the pic was one of them a small tree about three feet in front of the deer made the bullet explode just small peices if shrapnel hit the deer the second shot was a brained and he was done.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,157
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,157 |
Bob, I've been using them in a .300 RUM since the 200 grainer has been available. Lot's of dead critters of every size at lot's of yardages. They are a damn tough bullet and I've pushed then to the limit. mtmuley
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,298 Likes: 5
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 17,298 Likes: 5 |
I nave seen bergers do that but not AB's. I guess they all fail from time to time. Look at this one......300 WSM 165AB at 3134FPS My buddy fired this bullet into the jugs this afternoon. We chrono'ed one of them and put the second one into the water jugs. This bullet was found in jug #4. Pretty typical Accubond performance. Good mushroom and penetration. This was fired into the jugs at about 15 yards. I will get some retained weights and frontal area measurements soon.
|
|
|
|
53 members (7mm_Loco, 10gaugemag, 257_X_50, 6MMWASP, 907brass, AKislander, 5 invisible),
1,439
guests, and
807
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,538
Posts18,531,079
Members74,039
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|