24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
New powder coming from Accurate #9319576 11/07/14
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,616
B
boatanchor Offline OP
Campfire Guide
OP Offline
Campfire Guide
B
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,616
In January Accurate (Western Powders) will be coming out with a new powder called LT-30 that is a bit faster burn rate than the recently introduced LT-32.

The new LT-30 is going to be in the 4198 burn rate with a few claimed advantages over current offerings.

Nice to see more options for shooters, believe this is going to be made in Canada like the LT-32

BP-B2

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: boatanchor] #9319590 11/07/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
Yeah, it sounds pretty good. I'm supposed to get a sample pretty soon to play with.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9319690 11/07/14
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,478
N
NTG Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,478
So...what claimed advantages does it have over current offerings besides not having to get on a boat in Australia?

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: NTG] #9319912 11/07/14
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 26,258
antelope_sniper Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 26,258
Originally Posted by NTG
So...what claimed advantages does it have over current offerings besides not having to get on a boat in Australia?


Easy to light single based powder that meters like a ball powder. They also claim half the lot-to-lot variation of the competitors.

Is it true? I don't know. We will have to wait for John's report.


Nobody spends somebody else�s money as carefully as he spends his own.
The U.S Government has a unique capacity for getting things upside down.
Milton Friedman.

Go quiet or full tilt, just don't get caught in the middle of the stupids. DD
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: antelope_sniper] #9320249 11/08/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
Along with the same temperature-resistance of LT-32.

More and more powder makers are offering temp-resistant brands these days, and yes, that is an advantage even beyond not having to get powders from Australia. More competition in any sort of product is always good.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
IC-A

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9321717 11/08/14
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
R
ratsmacker Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
Right now, I'd settle for some 1680. I've held off handloading for my year-old .17 Hornet because I'm running really short of 1680. Initial results for pullitoutmykazoo loads were good, but I need to verify, and chrono, the things, without powder to re-charge the ammo, there's not much point in fooling with it, OR, my .22 Hornet, for that matter. mad

Why heck, I've even had to resort to shooting factory ammo so I wouldn't run completely out of the stuff! shocked And in case you guys missed it, THAT stuff ain't growin' on trees, either! cry


You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: ratsmacker] #9322033 11/08/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
ratsmacker,

One of the surprises in the .17 Hornet is H4198. In my rifle , a 22" barreled CZ, it gets over 3500 with the 20-grain V-Max and accuracy is very close to 1680.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: ratsmacker] #9322138 11/08/14
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 17,906
Pappy348 Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 17,906
Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Right now, I'd settle for some 1680. I've held off handloading for my year-old .17 Hornet because I'm running really short of 1680. Initial results for pullitoutmykazoo loads were good, but I need to verify, and chrono, the things, without powder to re-charge the ammo, there's not much point in fooling with it, OR, my .22 Hornet, for that matter. mad

Why heck, I've even had to resort to shooting factory ammo so I wouldn't run completely out of the stuff! shocked And in case you guys missed it, THAT stuff ain't growin' on trees, either! cry


H110, which is fairly easy to get here, will do a good job in the .22 Hornet with standard SP primers. Worth a try, anyway. Better than $60 a box.


What fresh Hell is this?
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9322202 11/09/14
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 47
S
smike308 Offline
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
ratsmacker,

One of the surprises in the .17 Hornet is H4198. In my rifle , a 22" barreled CZ, it gets over 3500 with the 20-grain V-Max and accuracy is very close to 1680.


Do you think then that LT 30 will be a good fit in the 17 Hornet? May be another option.


[Linked Image]
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: smike308] #9322654 11/09/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
Might be. It's one application I'll have to try after getting my hands on a sample.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
IC-B

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9323063 11/09/14
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
R
ratsmacker Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
I DO have some IMR-4198 grin , it's all I could find locally. I can reduce the H-4198 load a bit and work with it, when time allows.

Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of a move, and I've got to put all my loading gear into storage for maybe a year. (Just got married, and we're rehabilitating her house so's I can get my stuff in there. It's amazing how much loading gear a bachelor can accumulate in 40 years of handloading, and HOW MUCH THAT STUFF WEIGHS shocked ). I married 'late in life', but life's an adventure, so I'm not fussing about that, only the work involved in rehabbing the bride's property, and the year I'll lose doing so.


You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Pappy348] #9323095 11/09/14
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
R
ratsmacker Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
R
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 10,836
Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by ratsmacker
Right now, I'd settle for some 1680. I've held off handloading for my year-old .17 Hornet because I'm running really short of 1680. Initial results for pullitoutmykazoo loads were good, but I need to verify, and chrono, the things, without powder to re-charge the ammo, there's not much point in fooling with it, OR, my .22 Hornet, for that matter. mad

Why heck, I've even had to resort to shooting factory ammo so I wouldn't run completely out of the stuff! shocked And in case you guys missed it, THAT stuff ain't growin' on trees, either! cry


H110, which is fairly easy to get here, will do a good job in the .22 Hornet with standard SP primers. Worth a try, anyway. Better than $60 a box.



Luckily, I had a bunch of .22 Hornet already loaded before I found my .17 Hornet, but I did manage to find a box of PRVI Partisan .22 Hornet at a gunshow for $40 or thereabouts. I bought it to tinker with the cases after firing it up. I hear a lot of mixed reviews about it, but the price was right.

I THINK the local funshop still has some old stock WW .22 Hornet ammo priced $29.95, too, which is where I got my initial .22 Hornet brass.
I also finally (after 7 months on backorder) got a case of .17 Hornet ammo from Midway last summer. I'm not bereft of ammo, but I like to keep plenty around in case a prairie dog trip offers itself.


You can roll a turd in peanuts, dip it in chocolate, and it still ain't no damn Baby Ruth.
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: ratsmacker] #9323181 11/09/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
ratsmacker,

The IMR4198 might work even better!

Good luck on the marriage, the house and getting everything set up. The last time we moved was 16 years ago, and while I had plenty of reloading stuff, there wasn't as much as there is now. Because it's part of my business, setting up the new loading room was a priority, but it still took a month!


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9335820 11/14/14
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 858
H
Hunterapp Offline
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
H
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 858
Mule Deer

What has been your prefered primer in the 17 Hornet?

Look forward to your reviews on playing with the LT 30. Hope the weather allows for some fair test conditions soon after you are able to pick up that powder.

Originally Posted by Mule Deer
ratsmacker,

One of the surprises in the .17 Hornet is H4198. In my rifle , a 22" barreled CZ, it gets over 3500 with the 20-grain V-Max and accuracy is very close to 1680.


love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9335956 11/14/14
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
3
358win Offline
Member
Offline
Member
3
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
Mule Deer

Would either of these powders be good for loading in a M1 Garand?

I have been using H4895 but getting low not sure what powder is available locally so keeping my options open.

Thanks for all information / knowledge you share with us on the fire.

358win

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9335968 11/14/14
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
3
358win Offline
Member
Offline
Member
3
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
Mule Deer

Would either of these powder be okay to load in a M1 Garand? I currently use H4895 and need get some more powder. Not sure what is available locally so keeping my options open.
Thanks for all the information / knowledge you share with uson the fire.

358win

Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: antelope_sniper] #9336153 11/14/14
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,298
Swifty52 Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,298
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by NTG
So...what claimed advantages does it have over current offerings besides not having to get on a boat in Australia?


Easy to light single based powder that meters like a ball powder. They also claim half the lot-to-lot variation of the competitors.

Is it true? I don't know. We will have to wait for John's report.


LT32 is an awesomely accurate powder in the pair of 223's I have. Velocity out of a 24" tube runs right at 3150 w/52's. Meters excellent, lot to lot variations are almost nil, as in 5-10 FPS for the same charge. Have shot in conditions from 25 degrees to 90 degrees with no drastic swings in performance.
According to Accurate it's only 5 steps slower than 4198.
Have read good things about LT30 in the 30BR, but just like LT32 it's designed for the bench rest calibers. Currently know of the only load data out is for 223, 6PPC, 6BR etc. but do believe HawkI used it in his duece with good results.



Swifty
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Hunterapp] #9336179 11/14/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
Hunterapp,

I started with Remington 7-1/2's and results were so good I kept using them.

But a few months ago I bought a bunch of Tula small-rifle primers, because the price was so good I couldn't pass 'em up. The only I've tried them in so far have been the .17 Fireball and .22 Hornet, and they worked so well I'm betting they'll do fine in the .17 Hornet too.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: 358win] #9336186 11/14/14
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
M
Mule Deer Online Content
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
M
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 51,909
358Win,

They'd probably work in the Garand, but you should contact Western Powders and ask them.

Another you might want to try is the new IMR4166, which is starting to become available right now, since the burn-rate is similar to 4895, or maybe a hair slower.


“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.”
John Steinbeck
Re: New powder coming from Accurate [Re: Mule Deer] #9337058 11/14/14
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
3
358win Offline
Member
Offline
Member
3
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 161
Thanks John

I have consider the new IMR 4166 powder

Thanks again

358win

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin, SYSOP 

RR1b
Who's Online Now
712 registered members (12344mag, 10gaugeman, 10gaugemag, 01Foreman400, 06hunter59, 10ring1, 79 invisible), 1,535 guests, and 942 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
RR2/3










Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2020 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
 
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3
(Release build 20190728)
PHP: 7.3.27 Page Time: 0.071s Queries: 15 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8785 MB (Peak: 1.0438 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2021-04-14 14:33:43 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS