|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,653
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,653 |
SCORE!  ![[Linked Image]](http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt260/jackpine44/Brass7x57_zps2003e8b4.jpg) You 7x57 guys are too funny! Loony, Bob. Loony.
You're Welcome At My Fire Anytime
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 196
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 196 |
I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to shot 175's in either cartridge............unless it's the last rifle on earth, the only bullets available for it & they're going to take it Brown Bear hunting. I'm sure a few will disagree...............  MM I shot 175s exclusively for years through mine. NPTs....you know our deer season runs concurrently with elk and where I hunt there are both, plus the rifle made three trips to Africa, where again you don't know how big of a critter you'll be seeing or shooting. The 175s were skookum Shot everything from jackals up to zebra, kudus,. and elk. I shot 175 NP in mine for years, and finally ran out. Same reason, elk, bear, deer all at same time for a while up here. Used up my 160 NPs, now I'm down to 150s. The old Nosler solid bases I have shoot to the same point of aim as the Partitions...My 1A is 70s vintage and has a very long throat.
Regards,
Ben
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 196
Campfire Member
|
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 196 |
Let me ask the true 7x57 afficienados what may be a dumb question but I ask in all seriousness. Using one load per caliber, 165 gr., the .308, 180 in the 06 and 200 gr. in the .300 magnum. I have three 7x57s I'm playing with. I have the load for the Ruger #1A with the 170 gr. Sierra, more a nostalgic thing than anything else. It just goes to the range as the ranch I hunt does not allow single shot rifles.  I have a goodly supply of 150 gr. Nosler Partitions and 165 gr. Speer Grand Slams so my question is this, if you had to choose one of the other for all your 7x57 hunting for the rest of your life, which would you choose. I primarily hunt for cow elk with shots to about 350 yards. I have H4350, H4831 and Re17. I am open to suggestions for other powders, if I can find them. Paul B. 165 grain .284 Grand Slam? I didn't know they made those... I'd use the 150 Partitions if you have a bunch. Right now I'm using H414 (new manufacture). The best powder I tried with the 175 grain NP was H4831SC, that is a little slow for the 150 grain bullets though in my rifle. I think H4350 or RE 17 would work. Go to the Nosler website, using RE 19 I believe they do pretty well with RE 17 and 19...especially with the 140 grain bullets.
Regards,
Ben
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,540
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,540 |
The Speer Grand Slams in 7mm come in three weights: 145 gr, 160 gr, and 175 gr.
The 160s and 175s are in stock right now at Midway. The 145s are currently out of stock, if anyone is interested.
Nifty-250
"If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else".
Yogi Berra
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122 |
My very first rifle was a 7X57 mouser. I don't remember which mouser it was as I was young and knew nothing about rifles back then. What I do remember is that it dropped everything I shot with it for seven years until I sold the rifle. I've decided my next rifle is going to have to be a 7X57.
I don't know if I should have one put together on an old mouser action or go with something else. Decisions!
Shod
The 6.5 Swede, Before Gay Was Ok
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,540
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,540 |
Midway currently has Norma 7x57 cases in stock if anybody needs them. Twice the price of Remington cases, but many think they are twice as good. $119 per 100 at Midway.
Incidentally, Cabelas has many of their Norma cases on sale right now. No 7x57s, but a good selection, some as much as 50% off. The best deals seem to be on .243 and .270 cases.
Nifty-250
"If you don't know where you're going, you may wind up somewhere else".
Yogi Berra
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 983
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 983 |
Used a 145 GS on a WT in my HVA 7x57 week and a half ago. Muddy
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950 |
IME, part of the "class" characterized by 7x57 aficionados (particularly those who prefer 175gr bullets) includes the lack of a need to put others down simply because they don't understand, and no proclivity to categorize and stereotype others based their own narrow-minded perspective.
Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,406 Likes: 1
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 12,406 Likes: 1 |
"165 grain .284 Grand Slam? I didn't know they made those..."
My bad...a typo. That's what happens when you type with two blind fingers.
Paul B.
Our forefathers did not politely protest the British.They did not vote them out of office, nor did they impeach the king,march on the capitol or ask permission for their rights. ----------------They just shot them.
MOLON LABE
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 19,179
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 19,179 |
[quote=BobinNH][quote=roundoak]SCORE! Loony, Bob. Loony. Well, I didn't know Bob's last name was Loony!! <G>
jwall- *** 3100 guy***
A Flat Trajectory is Never a Handicap
Speed is Trajectory's Friend !!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852 |
IME, part of the "class" characterized by 7x57 aficionados (particularly those who prefer 175gr bullets) includes the lack of a need to put others down simply because they don't understand, and no proclivity to categorize and stereotype others based their own narrow-minded perspective.
Hmmm...does the name Ingwe ring a bell?
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,408
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,408 |
I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to shot 175's in either cartridge...
MM Why not? Velocity, trajectory, energy, and SD sure looks fine to me out to any distance I would be shooting. One of my 7mm's shoots 175's lightyears better than 150's or 160's. I really don't think I would be losing much by shooting 175's.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 |
IME, part of the "class" characterized by 7x57 aficionados (particularly those who prefer 175gr bullets) includes the lack of a need to put others down simply because they don't understand, and no proclivity to categorize and stereotype others based their own narrow-minded perspective.
Hmmm...does the name Ingwe ring a bell? Was that a compliment? He shure talks purty.....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 42,642 Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 42,642 Likes: 4 |
Ingwe,
What game have you taken with your 7X57 that you could not have done as well with a 150 ballistic tip? Zebra comes to mind instantly, as does gemsbok. Kudu might be ok with the 150 NBT, as they are 'soft'. Elk too would probably be ok...but I REALLY prefer the 175 on them. I never shot an eland with that rifle, but would, with a 175. I just loaded up and used the 150 NBTs for an Axis hunt this year. They seemed just fine for that, and penetration was complete. Bullets are like bras, they bigger the better....
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,104 Likes: 4
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 7,104 Likes: 4 |
I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to shot 175's in either cartridge...
MM Why not? Velocity, trajectory, energy, and SD sure looks fine to me out to any distance I would be shooting. One of my 7mm's shoots 175's lightyears better than 150's or 160's. I really don't think I would be losing much by shooting 175's. The 7x57's reputation for competence was founded upon the use of 175gn bullets. To challenge their worth is to demonstrate your own knowledge on the subject. John
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852 |
I haven't had a need to shoot 175s yet, but it's good to know my 1:866 twist barrel won't even hiccup when I do.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,950 |
I can't possibly imagine anyone wanting to shot 175's in either cartridge...
MM Why not? Velocity, trajectory, energy, and SD sure looks fine to me out to any distance I would be shooting. One of my 7mm's shoots 175's lightyears better than 150's or 160's. I really don't think I would be losing much by shooting 175's. The 7x57's reputation for competence was founded upon the use of 175gn bullets. To challenge their worth is to demonstrate your own knowledge on the subject. John Well put, John.
Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
I often use quick reply. My posts are not directed toward any specific person unless I mention them by name.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,653
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 10,653 |
I haven't had a need to shoot 175s yet, but it's good to know my 1:866 twist barrel won't even hiccup when I do. Did you make an actual measurement?
You're Welcome At My Fire Anytime
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,306 Likes: 2 |
Mine is a 1 in 9.0000236....but it still stabilizes the 175s..
Mr. Spock
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,852 |
I haven't had a need to shoot 175s yet, but it's good to know my 1:866 twist barrel won't even hiccup when I do. Did you make an actual measurement? Unless the "tight patch on a cleaning rod" is less than accurate (which it probably is), it came out to one turn in just shy of 220 millimeters. If my conversion rate is right, that's 1:866.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
|
581 members (007FJ, 1badf350, 1beaver_shooter, 12344mag, 10gaugeman, 117LBS, 55 invisible),
2,463
guests, and
1,314
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,924
Posts18,518,884
Members74,020
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
![[Linked Image]](http://s617.photobucket.com/user/jackpine44/media/Brass7x57_zps2003e8b4.jpg.html)
