Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Dragunov semi auto rifles and optics. Any experience with them here?

With the prices you guys are quoting for a real Dragunov, I am sure now that I was seeing something else being called a Dragunov but which was clearly not.

Any other decent semi auto's in 7.62x54R made that someone could dress up to look like a Draagunov? IF so, that is probably what I have been seeing for sale. Makes my question a different animal as a real Dragunov would cost about as much as a used Barrett m-82, a far better and cooler piece of furniture if that is what one is after.

I wouldn't screw around with Soviet or Chinese weapons. You should buy 2 ARs, 2 semi-auto pistols and get 2,000 rounds of ammo for each. ARs are much better quality than the other weapons and they are not all that expensive. Put a reddot or low power variable (1-4 or 2-8) leupold on them. 223 ammo is light and very effect for self defense and you can use 30 round mags. ARs are pretty light too. Might also get AR pistols with single point harnesses

You don't need to plan for long disasters. It could be something like the Rodney King riots where you have to fight a large mob.

In todays parlance, I'd say it was more of a "designated marksmans" rifle than a true sniper rifle...

Except for the Paras. They will thump you.

With the prices you guys are quoting for a real Dragunov, I am sure now that I was seeing something else being called a Dragunov but which was clearly not.

Any other decent semi auto's in 7.62x54R made that someone could dress up to look like a Draagunov? IF so, that is probably what I have been seeing for sale. Makes my question a different animal as a real Dragunov would cost about as much as a used Barrett m-82, a far better and cooler piece of furniture if that is what one is after.

Almost identical in power to the 308/7.62x51

Alright, first for some very cold water and to burst your fantasy.

If SHTF, you're dead and damned fast. Period; end of discussion. With your health problems you've laid out here, chapter and verse, you'd dead or incapacitated as soon as your pills run out or low. If you're on 90 day supplies, you have at most that long; 30 day supplies, at most that long. Murphy's law will dictate that SHTF not the day after you get a refill, though. So, you're a dead man and quickly.

Before that happens, you'll run out of food or water. I don't gather that you farm yourself, or that you live in an area where you're on a well. The water goes out; you're dead, because you damned sure can't get access to other water without exposing yourself and you're in no physical condition to be carrying water. That "pretty, petite little wife" of yours, that you love to brag about, is a target then and one you likely can't cover (you won't have fuel, and you can't walk that well or cover your supplies at home); unless you can cover her hauling water to/from the house, you're dead.

Even if you do engage groups trying to take what stuff you do have, how long do you really think you can hold out? Is your house in an area where you can see for considerable distances without any cover/concealment near it? Do you have a strong structure on the roof to hide behind and the ability to get to/from it without exposing yourself to cover the perimeter? Odds are, no, you aren't in a strategic position for defense, and you're a sitting duck.

I could continue, but please, just throw that "white hat, protecting his woman and home" BS right out the window. You're a very dead man, very soon, if SHTF and that "pretty little wife" of yours will have to fend for herself. You'd better be putting time and energy into shoring up her relations with her family, if you really think that SHTF comes in your lifetime. They MIGHT have a chance at protecting her; you don't have a prayer.

Hell, even if you did survive the first waves, you're dead when the meds run out, and there ain't a damned thing you can do about that, and nowhere either of the two of you are getting to before those meds run out that will be any better. If S really does HTF, there's no cavalry coming and no reprieve.

Now, with that out of the way, get two AR-15 lowers. Hers should be an M4 variant in 5.56. Set one up for yourself the same, as then she'll know yours as well as hers (they'll both be hers eventually anyway). If you want more horsepower for hunting, a second upper on yours is easy and you can run up to WSSMs through there.

Just concentrate on the plinking, varmint shooting, and maybe some big game hunting. SHTF is the last thing you should be considering, because you wouldn't last long enough to even get past the first splatter from the fan.