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Originally Posted by AH64guy
I've picked a couple Knight Lk-93s for very little, they are cap fired, exposed breech, and decent fiber optic sights are available or come with them. They meet the requirements for Idaho, will have to see how they shoot.


shhhh! now everyone is going to know!
they shoot very well, actually, and have a fantastic trigger.


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The LK 93 is the Wolverine, right? I have one that shoots well. Cleaning it sucks though compared to my Optima V2.


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I have a white whitetail .504 loades 460gr no exuse bullets like butter. Shoots very well cleans very easy.

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To me the plunger actions, especially Knights, are the easiest to clean thoroughly. I find it much easier than any break action.


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Originally Posted by goalie
The LK 93 is the Wolverine, right? I have one that shoots well. Cleaning it sucks though compared to my Optima V2.



Yes, although I can't figure out if the Wolverine title is the new, or the old marketing name. I thought they cleaned pretty easy. One of the two I bought, was just for the stock as the bore was supposed to be toast, completely rusted, and of no use. When I got, I ran a boresnake through it a few passes, and it's about as nice as any used one I've seen, looks like the rust was surface only, no pitting. Time will tell, but I was really happy with how well the neglect cleaned out of it.

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What the heck kind of break action you been shooting where a plunger gun is easier to clean?!

On my CVA's I simply break the gun open, remove the breech plug, clean the inside with hot soapy water, dry it and then use birchwood casey 2 in 1 bore scrubber in the bore. 3 to 5 patches later its finished. No need to break the rifle down as mine are all head spaced for a snug fit against the primer which seals up ALL blow by from the primers.

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I'll not comment on the break actions because I don't use one.

I will say that I've never found unscrewing a plunger bolt assy. and a breech plug to be a very difficult, or time consuming chore.........

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I believe this thread was about Idaho legal muzzleloaders. I haven't seen a percussion cap fired gun that doesn't blow back regardless of action type. Even with the 209 ignition, not every breakaction is headspaced correctly from the factory to eliminate blowback. My g'smith gets several every year with the guts rusted up.


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Originally Posted by idahostalker

Does any one know how heavy the White Super 91 and other White muzzleloaders are?


My super safari 91 is 9 lbs on the bathroom scale with a load (70g 777 and 460gn conical) and small bushnell trophy scope.

A .504 caliber may be a hair lighter due to the bigger hole down the barrel.


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Knight Ultra-Lite Western Ignition is 6 lbs.


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