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The real question is why the guys that can't handle recoil chose the 270, why not the 25-06? Because the .257 Roberts is classier?
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42 pages already and there is no love for the 7mm Mauser! LMAO....
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42 pages already and there is no love for the 7mm Mauser! LMAO....
Yeah, kinda the wrong title for a thread about the ultimate, consummate cartridge.
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Yeah, kinda the wrong title for a thread about the ultimate, consumate complicated cartridge.
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Meaner!
I fart in your general direction!
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Hope that's not toward Michigun!
Our God reigns.
Harrumph!!!
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They'd probably sell more if they offered a lifetime lube and filter. European mechanics are so 'spensive. And they talk funny too.
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I really can't think of any cartridge that I "love". Usually it's more like, "...I could use that Cartridge X to hunt ______ in _____ rifle" or, "...that's an interesting, historic cartridge, it would be neat to run it..." or, "...damn rimfire gougers anyway, I'll buy a .25-20..." (which is why I have two .25-20's) I'm right handed. I bought a LH 7x57 Mauser because it was a really cool gun, and because I knew it was way too cheap. If it was right handed, I'd still own it.  When I run across a rifle that is desirable for accuracy, beauty, history, ruggedness, etc, I will look at it and decide if the caliber is useful. If not, I won't go for it, but if it is, I would. If I was offered a Model 70 in .243, I'd likely pass. But a 7mm Remington came along, and I jumped on it.
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I am still sitting in silence at the realization that I was not to put my 7x57 Featherweight in a tupperware stock. Last year my daughter bought me the factory Winchester Featherweight tupp stock that is an exact replica of the wood one...checkering, schnabel forend, the whole nine yards. Just couldn't bring myself to hunt with such a beautiful woodstock.
Have I unduly defiled a classic??? Am I now considered a Samaritan??? When i think "7x57", I think Bell,Corbett and Eleanor O'Connor....Mauser 98's, blue steel, impeccable metal work,and handcrafted wood stocks,classic design and I would not own a 7x57 again that was not built that way. No plastic tip bullets please.....geeeezzz! I also think of stodgy old farts dragged kicking and screaming out of the 20th Century. OTOH, the 7/08 reminds me of little rifles, mostly synthetic stocks and SS,people with short arms to manage the teeny actions. I put a Kimber Montana 7/08 on layaway last week (this will be my second Montana in 7/08,and maybe 4th or 5th 7/08) so maybe I will like the outfit better next time around. You nailed it. The 7X57 is a classic and one of my favorite hunting rounds.
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There is a lot of love for the 7-08, but little for the 7x57, why? I realy like the 7 Mauser as it is a very pleasurable round to shoot as wel as very effective.
Are you serious? Loads of people like it. Commercially, it's hampered by the bazillions of old rifles that aren't safe with high pressure loads, which makes it a handloading proposition to get good performance. Joe Deerhunter wants to buy a rifle and ammo and go hunting, so he gets a 7-08. Rifle loonys wanting a little more steam will build a .280 AI, or if they're real gone, a .284. 7X57 lovers are usually folks with nice old Mauser sporters or maybe Ruger 1As that they can load to outrun the 7-08 a bit. Occasionally, someone will have a new sporter built throated for the lighter bullets in favor now. X2.
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It is simpler than discussed really.
If we look at 2 popular bullets for this cartridge, say the 140gn TSX and the 150gn Partition, the former can be safely loaded to around 2900fps and I have shot lengthwise through wild horses with it. With the Nosler, I have shot clear through horses with side chest shots. (never tried the lengthwise shot with this bullet.)
Deer sized game is a no contest.
So with this field performance, what game would you not hunt with either load in this cartridge?
Secondly, there is nothing either side of it that steps up the animal size that I can see and it was never intended as a dangerous game cartridge so there is no point raising the big bears as a case against it?
The ability to create a reliable hole through the lungs is comforting, especially as you already know how easy it is to shoot this cartridge well and place that shot.
John
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