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As long as the same old supercilious arrogance continues to compel "furriners" to judge the South and Southerners the same old tattered ways, the South and Southerners will continue to resent it. Rightfully, IMHO.
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Pretty interesting info on the Little Bighorn. I am a history buff, but actually know very little of this battle. I need to track down some of these books.
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As long as the same old supercilious arrogance continues to compel "furriners" to judge the South and Southerners the same old tattered ways, the South and Southerners will continue to resent it. Rightfully, IMHO. How about "furriners" who just want to treat and be treated in a manner based upon mutual respect but are instantly judged on the basis of their geographical location?
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I had previously never been big on visiting the old battle sites. Respect the soldiers' bravery and sacrifices, absolutely - but not go there. I went to Pearl Harbor early this year, and it was a moving experience. LBH seems like a good one to visit as well.
I have never much studied Little Bighorn, but the main "myth" I'd always heard was that the Indians had repeating rifles, and Custer's troops only had Trapdoor Springfields. Correct, or not?
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As long as the same old supercilious arrogance continues to compel "furriners" to judge the South and Southerners the same old tattered ways, the South and Southerners will continue to resent it. Rightfully, IMHO. How about "furriners" who just want to treat and be treated in a manner based upon mutual respect but are instantly judged on the basis of their geographical location? As I use it, the term furriners refers to those from whatever geographical scruff who can't keep their damned opinions of the South and Southerners to themselves.
"Good enough" isn't.
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Ken,
You may want to hit your Life Alert button, it appears you have fallen and hit your head...
Takedown. Two points for Shrap. 
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As long as the same old supercilious arrogance continues to compel "furriners" to judge the South and Southerners the same old tattered ways, the South and Southerners will continue to resent it. Rightfully, IMHO. How about "furriners" who just want to treat and be treated in a manner based upon mutual respect but are instantly judged on the basis of their geographical location? As I use it, the term furriners refers to those from whatever geographical scruff can't keep their damned opinions of the South and Southerners to themselves. That sounds fair. I would expand it to read "...the South and Southerners and/or the North and Northerners...".
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We visited the Little Big Horn on a gray misty day. The day and the headstones gave a eerie feeling to the battle field and I was very surprised at the distances involved. The interpreter we had was quite good to the point of creating interest to retrace Custer's footsteps. The 7th Calvary outpost in North Dakota is interesting to see the level of luxury that Custer left behind to travel to his death. Given that five Custer family members died at the battle including a nephew he took along as a horse handler makes me wonder if he thought the Indian issue was no longer serious. Pictures of the inside of the residence (Libby's piano) and barracks. On the end of the beds in the barracks the name of the solider and their fate is posted. It was interesting to see fates other than the Little Big Horn ![[Linked Image]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/hughwarren/May%202011%20%20Nebraska%20Trip/IMG_5597.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/hughwarren/May%202011%20%20Nebraska%20Trip/IMG_5584.jpg) The guide at the North Dakota site said Custer's widow had to vacate the home within 2 to 4 weeks of notification of Custer's death. Different times and some real interesting history.
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I have a trapdoor that was passed down from my grandfather that was of little interest: ![[Linked Image]](http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp78/1sikpupi/100_1570Large.jpg) until it's serial number was found on a list of guns connected with the LBH. it is the eighth Trapdoor on THIS LIST. this is confirmed by a letter from the Springfield Research Service.
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That is very interesting!
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I have a trapdoor that was passed down from my grandfather that was of little interest: until it's serial number was found on a list of guns connected with the LBH. it is the eighth Trapdoor on THIS LIST. this is confirmed by a letter from the Springfield Research Service. Now that's neat!!
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Just because he pulled off an unlikely feat at Gettysburg doesn't mean it would happen in every circumstance & I tend to lean towards him being highly overconfident at the Little Big Horn. I may be being too harsh though.............
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Gettysburg is only one of Custer's little known Civil War accomplishments. Jeb Stuart was the pride if the Southern Army and was killed at the hands of Custer's command at Yellow Tavern. There is a reason Custer was a General at 23 years of age. Custer was at Appomattox when Lee surrendered. Phil Sheridan bought the table that they signed the terms of the surrender on and gave it to Libby Custer with a note stating that the war would not have come to as early a conclusion without the heroics of her husband... If one studies Custer's Civil War record they'll see that the man made things happen. His troops captured the most enemy battle flags of any command. I've read that his troops captured every piece of artillery that fired on them and that he never lost any of his own to capture(though he had to take some back,from the enemy,a time or two). He was one of the first to go up in a hot-air balloon to be a Forward Observer(he volunteered for that duty and was under heavy fire). In a drawn sabre cavalry charge he was always in the lead even as a General(there are many accounts of this occurring). General Grant thought so much of him that he gave Custer and not the President the table that the surrender was signed on. Shrap,are you familiar with the Crow Rock Fight? I've heard that Sitting Bull was in that one. Custer lost more men then anyone else of similar rank. Those "accomplishments" were purchased with the blood of his men, who's welfare he held subordinate to his own personal glory.
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Looking for two or three good book recommendations about Custer and the battle. A very good book for reading of Custer's Civil War years is Custer Victorious by Gregory J. W. Urwin...it tells of the table that Gen.Sheridan purchased for Mrs. Custer for $20 in gold but fails to tell if it was one $20 coin or two $10 coins. For books regarding Custer and/or the Little Bighorn campaign Custer's Last Campaign by John S. Gray is one that I recommend. It tells of the 7ths movements on their way to the Battle and also it tells about Mitch Boyer(a half Sioux Army Scout that chose to stay with Custer to the end) who lived a very interesting life. Another book about the Little Big Horn that I found difficult to put down is Archaeological Perspectives on the Battle of the Little Bighorn by Douglas D. Scott,Richard A. Fox,Jr.,Melissa A. Conner,and Dick Harmon.It tells of the 1984/85 digs and what was discovered. Lastly,one that I found informative is Crazy Horse and Custer The Parallel Lives of Two American Warriors by Stephen E. Ambrose.
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When Custer was promoted to Brigadier General his immediate superior was Gen.Hugh Judson Kilpatrick nick-named Kill-Cavalry by troops under him.
He was Custer's superior officer during Gettysburg and was well known for losing many men including brigade,regimental,and squadron commanders.
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The difference is the Custer battle ended in 1876, the Civil War still rages on in the South...
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Custer lost more men then anyone else of similar rank.
Those "accomplishments" were purchased with the blood of his men, who's welfare he held subordinate to his own personal glory.
You might look up General Longstreet and Gettysburg...
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As I use it, the term furriners refers to those from whatever geographical scruff who can't keep their damned opinions of the South and Southerners to themselves.
You sure got butt hurt over being told your story was a steaming pile of bullschit. Travis
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Custer lost more men then anyone else of similar rank.
Those "accomplishments" were purchased with the blood of his men, who's welfare he held subordinate to his own personal glory.
Few women could write it so plainly. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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