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This $4000 scope is uber. Oops, wrong forum.... That's a: 5-15X. Not just a 6X Schmidt-Bender-PMII-5-25x56-LP-MSR-MRAD-MTC-LT-CCW-RAL8000%2520%25281%2529.jpg$4,599.00 Buy It Now Free shipping
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In my opinion 400yds is a pretty reasonable max range if you are limited to 6X on the optic but I suspect not all will agree. So by the same yds/magnification ratio you would limit a fixed 4X to approximately ~250yds? I don�t have any problems hitting a 3 inch diamond at 200 yds with a 6 � lb 308 win and Leupold 4X (and it is only ~ 1.25 moa rifle). Recently I have been playing around shooting groups with variables cranked up and down in power and just don�t see much difference in group size as long as the aim point is large enough. Full disclosure, my local range only goes out to 200 yds. Hunting and target shooting are different disciplines with shared characteristics. The higher X provides a greater degree of aiming precision on target but at the same time reliability is a major consideration in the field. The individual question we all make is where to make the compromise. For me, the answer is different on a solo back pack trip in CO vs a Midwest deer hunt where a replacement rifle is a short drive away.
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Fixed 6X's The guys who were defending the stick shift have been quiet. Those stuck with a 6X as all they have can't get over it. While I got a 6X as a first centerfire hunting scope over 60 years ago it still makes me smile when I read some have not moved on. Of the new scopes I am using the 4.5-14 Leu. was good the other day. That's my current favorite.
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Fixed 6X scope any good? <--No Thanks!
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I feel the same way about people who are hung up on 3 position safeties and CRF.
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Try either of those shots with the 4.5-14 Leupold you're using and you'll be wishing you had a 6x42.
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Try either of those shots with the 4.5-14 Leupold you're using and you'll be wishing you had a 6x42. or a 1.5-6x42...grins
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Of the new scopes I am using the 4.5-14 Leu. was good the other day. That's my current favorite. Who gives a flying fu** what your favorite is, that wasn't the question. I don't normally use crude language, but I kind of miss your PMs. Make sure to put me on ignore so I can't respond.
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Try either of those shots with the 4.5-14 Leupold you're using and you'll be wishing you had a 6x42. That is a fact.
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The 6x42's specs: Linear Field of View (ft/100 yd) 17.30 ft
The 4.5-14's specs: Linear Field of View (ft/100 yd) 19.90 ft 7.40 ft
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I have and use both scopes. It isn't all about a number on a spec sheet.
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mathman could have told you but didn't the 19.9' field of view scope has a 32% larger field of view than the 17.3' scope. To properly understand numbers I ask myself if a 32% increase in pay would be worth the change.
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Some people are unfamiliar with box...
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My first riflescope for hunting was a 6 Lyman Wolverine.
I was deer hunting with my late dad in some hardwoods in VT and a couple of deer came towards me running past a tree quite close.
I raised my rifle and tried to aim it but I could only see some fur. It was too much scope for that close distance.
Later I got some 4X scopes for the woods.
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So the last 6x scope you tried was six decades ago?
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There is a Lyman 6X All American with the extra scopes on the cabinet.
I put a Leu 6X on a nice .22 sporter. Think it's a 6x32mm.
6X's are ok, in fact sometimes just right. I might turn one of my variables to 6X.
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The Leupold you mentioned sounds like a compact version, because of the small objective diameter. If so, it won't have the same eyepiece and eye relief characteristics as the 6x42 model.
Most variables when turned to 6x aren't as friendly as the 6x42 Leupold either, so saying "my variable has a 6x in it" doesn't always hold water. A 3.5-10x40 Leupold comes close.
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Don't try a 6X on this shot. The antlers won't fit in a 6X's tiny field of view.
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I doubt the game warden would approve, no matter the scope.
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