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Let me know when it's time for the girly pics.

Thanks MM

Yeah, you don't just show up to these things and get it done without a lot of blood, sweat and tears.....literally.

I wrestled with the idea of putting it out here, but came to the conclusion that it's no different than anyone here hanging pictures of fantastic successes on hunts. It's not bragging if you can do it.

The 'net is is funny place; with all the anonymous posters, it's impossible to know who you are talking to. I guess I've grown tired of taking [bleep]. It gets old....I've accomplished things not many have or ever will.

I know that some posters with integrity sometimes get sick of the crap and actually leave the boards.

Looking forward to it! Didn't know I was gonna be in the presence of legend.... I'll run backup on the filming just in case.....

My daughter, who is fresh into the competitive side of 4-H shotgun, was sitting beside me when I was reading through the posts. She thought that was pretty UBERish and said she could skip a few days of 7th grade to go get some pointers.

I hope you can edit well

Boxer

Congrat's on all of your competitive shooting successes!

That's a lot of commitment and skill. Very impressive.


Boxer? I had no you shot in competitions. ??

Where do you shoot ? Results?

Thanks 10

Hasn't worked out to meet Rc' in person but have talked to him on the phone and PM. He's been very personable and has helped me with a few things and made a very generous offer to help my kid.

Rick Congrats on all the Trophies. Humble man that you are. Still doesn't mean you cant hit or see a 1 MOA target with a 6x. If all I was doing was shooting game or targets at 500 yards or more then more XX's might be the all time answer. But for what I do the 6x works fine and I know from experience that I can reach out to at least 700 yards with the 6x and still hit and see a 1 MOA target. I like simple things because "Im as sharp as a wet bag of rice" It works for me. And Fitasc always seemed to me like shooting at running coyote's. Small fast ones. Was a lot of fun.

Actually it's "sharp as a sack of wet mice"

Foghorn Leghorn ya know....

Told you I was sharp

I LOLed at that one.


It is not getting smaller these days. Might be a 5 1/2.

GFY.



GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lil Fish,

Banging steel and killing deer are not exactly the same. That would be a hint and you should take a note of it and apply it.

It seems everybody but Lil Fish is having a good time in this thread and maybe a little interesting discussion is going on with the ball bustin.

Rick, pretty incredible to say the least. A lot of hard work to earn all those trophies. Honestly leaves me wondering. Why do you feel compelled to start a dust up over 6x scopes? I mean, honestly take a look at page one. I'd think a guy with a resume like that would have enough integrity to walk away and not be "that guy".

Hey, it's my favorite part about myself. That and my awesomeness.

WTF?????

Rick's integrity is not in question. He has an opinion and that is what you got.

If you don't want to read differing opinions then this "Internet" thing might not be your cup of tea.

OMG - no wonder you are confused, at long ranges, you have to aim higher Rick, especially with a 6x! It'll make your target appear lower than the crosshair thingys.

Ditto Rick. Now I also have remember you don't look just like Al Swearengen.

Would you rather have 6x?

Or 20x?

The first thing that comes to my mind when I see Rick's resume is "VERY impressive"! The man obviously knows the deal!

The next thing that comes to my mind is that Rick is certainly qualified more than most for long range shooting. Even so, he recently had a first round miss on a distant antelope. His skill is not in question. The difficulty of the task leaves me wondering if most need to back down on their distance if a first round ethical kill is the objective. Most of us would be better served with a fixed 6 and maximum point blank range.

The last thing is that as much as Rick shoots he is still stubborn enough to trust a Leupold! I had (he recently relocated to a different state) a gunsmith neighbor with a benchrest resume as long as Rick's. World Cup Team USA, etc. I will never forget the first time I went into his shop. He was giving a Leupold scope a good tongue lashing. After a few expletives he told me "We all use them but we damn sure dont trust them".

We have a winner!

I hear what you're saying, and there's truth in it. But I'd be willing to wager that if all of us backed down to shots that we'd made 100 % of the time, most of us would have to quit altogether. Which is another way of saying we've all missed shots that are within our capabilities.

I remember that post though. As I recall, I think he shaded his wind hold such that he made a clean miss, then corrected on the next shot. Hard to find fault with that result.

6x will never take a rifle to its full capability. This is a pretty simple thing to test..... shoot a couple groups with your variable power optic at 3x, 6x, and 9x.... betcha the groups are smaller on 9x than either of the others. Law of Diminishing returns applies.... as other factors such as FOV, eye box/relief, etc. must be considered.

Here's how I see it.... pick the Max range and target size you'd like to be able to hit. Then, pick the optic based on that.

Example: I want to consistently make 1st round hits on 2 MOA sized targets out to 800 yards. This is a pretty reasonable goal, there are matches all over the country that use the 1.5-2.5 MOA targets as a sort of 'standard'... and that's solid hits in big game vitals.

For me, I have no problem with a 3-9x or fixed 10x given the above example. I can see how folks with glasses, contacts, lesser vision, etc. would require more magnification for the same task.

Not sure I would have the same confidence past about 600 with a 6x. I've never felt like 9-10x was too much.... even calling coyotes. But every time I go fixed 6x there's an immediate instance when I want more magnification.

I think 6x as a Rev Limiter of sorts is a pretty decent idea... most folks shouldn't be shooting at BG past about 250 anyway. So, if you put in a little work, a 6x should take you out to 500 yards on 2 MOA sized targets quite well, and still serve well inside bow range.

I'll know soon... there's a 6x SS en route...