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Here is the photo of the new stock that they just sent me. I'll be at SHOT Show here in a few weeks and will go check them out in person. If they will let me I'll take a bunch of pics.

Oh a freeking lefty. I like it!!! Stock looks grippy enough . Kind of like my stock paint jobs . Aside from the Winchester EW handling like a 2x4, it's a slic SOB too. Not my cup o tea... Had one and hated it. Put it in a Mcmillan hunters compact edge and a chit load world of difference.. The stock pictured looks more like a Bansner, but they say it is a carbon B&C. I'm hoping they let you take a bunch of pictures. Let us know how they feel in person too.

So the new stock is BC or they sent you a new BC?

I confusing....

I will also check it out during SHOT show as well. Nice to know they haven't overlooked us lefties!

This is what I'm going off of. It says they are using a B&C "carbon fiber" stock. However, someone here said they were making their own stocks in house. STS45 posted a picture of the "new" stock:

http://montanarifleco.com/?page_id=180

Sorry guys, typing fast. This is merely just a picture that was sent to me by Montana Rifle. It is supposed to be their new stock that they told me is being made in house, by them.

They are no longer using B&C stocks.

"Yes,
We do our own now, they have a straight comb, no cheek piece.
Black with a grey spec in it.
Thanks,

Sincerely,
Larry"

This is what Larry Craven the sales manager sent me when I asked if they are no longer using B&C stocks.

Hopefully these stocks are pretty good, hard to tell in photo although it looks a little thick in the grip for my tastes. Who knows though.

That would be much appreciated if you could give us a rundown on what you think of the stock. Looking forward to hearing about the new stocks.

Thanks STS

Larry sounds like a very nice guy. Here is his prompt response to my email regarding the left handed XWR-SS 9.3x62mm I inquired about:



Hi Lawrence,

Happy New Year and thank you for your interest in Montana Rifle Company!

Yes, we sure can, that would go through the custom shop and the cost would be $1968.37 plus shipping.

Thanks and let me know if we can get one of these great rifles started for you.




Sincerely,

Larry





Larry Craven

Sales Manager



Montana Firearms Group Like us on Facebook

3178 MT Hwy 35

Kalispell, Montana 59901



(406) 756-4867 Ext 206 (Office)

(406) 756-4874 (FAX)

www.montanarifleco.com

larrymontanarifleco.com

That's some piss poor customer service. "Yes, we sure can"? Seriously?

The correct answer is:

We are not able to fulfill your request at this time. Due to time constraints and overhead, it is not possible to create anything other than what our accounting staff will allow and what Wal-Mart will buy. That particular chambering is unproven and we would be unable to test it due to the lack of available ammunition. Further, we have already decided that left-handed shooters only comprise a small "niche" market that we are not interested in pursuing. Your best remedy is to purchase our fabulous right handed 30-06 and learn to shoot it. This isn't Burger King. However, if your purchase in the next 30 days, we will include a coupon for one (1) Happy Meal at the McDonalds of your choosing.

Happy Holidays.

Ha ha. Thanks for the laugh... Good one....

I am lusting after an MRC in 7x57. Even after shooting my pre-64 .270 this afternoon...

In response to the request for more pictures, here are some of a few different subjects.

First, in response to the request about gas handling.

A bolt shroud acts a gas deflector, a blast shield if you will, and there are noticeable differences.

Top to bottom for comparison taken from the underside, Accuracy International, Remington 700, Kimber Montana. The Kimber moved on down to the road, so it is not available to include in the same photo with the Montana Rifle Company bolt.

Shaving weight has to shave something, and the bolt shroud on the Kimber definitely is the smallest by a noticeable margin.

Also note the difference in the firing pin size.



Just guessing that the "S" marking means "Stainless."





The Winchester M 70 and Mauser deflect gas into to the left raceway. Here is a Win M70 with the bolt positioned as if in closed position. Note the left raceway side, as the MRC makes an important improvement.



The Montana Rifle Company adds a gas barrier and deflector, which blocks the left raceway, and deflects the gas into the left gas escape port.



Here is the block positioned as if it is cocked with the bolt in closed position:



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A gas escape port near the chamber is critical of course. Oddly, not all rifles have them, which is surprising, so check for that first. The MRC has two.

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R700 for comparison:

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More to follow in a few minutes.

Some other general photos.



The left raceway is shallower than the Remington 700, so the shells do not roll off into the left raceway. Also, the MRC uses a solid, milled mag follower compared to the stamped sheet metal of the R700.













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Stocks are next.

Stock grip measurements for comparison, since there was some interest in the grip thickness.

R700 ADL Wood Stock by MRC (B&C)





Underside of grip:



Rem 700 ADL Wood - 1.386"



MRC (B&C) 1.397"



Pre-64 Supergrade & MRC



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Quit your lusting. Buy a 257 Roberts, use it and if you don't like it, sell it to me...

Jeffbird,

Amazing posts, thank you!

Don't feel bad. My 270 is disheartening too. I don't like taking it out anymore, especially when I'm shooting my 30-06. . Great pictures jeffbird. Thanks for posting.

You're welcome.

Couple more - firing pin removal from MRC is done by depressing the button on the bolt shroud. Easy to do with finger pressure.




Firing pin removal tools for the R700 - boot laces and a dime. Works, but is a bit of a hassle. Hard to understand why they have never figured out a better answer.

Look forward to the review. See if they would let you carry it around for a few hours.

I'm starting to hate this thread.