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I just don't get it. The two main ones are the Glock vs. 1911 guys. Why all the hate? If you own X why does it bother you when someone chooses Y or Z??
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I own both and like both. Though I do feel a little better using a Glock as a car gun instead of a 1911 that costs more than twice as much. Just not in condition one.
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Buddhists call it identification, people tie their egos to their possessions or something that gives them their identity.
"So, you chose something other than what I chose. Well, since I'm the center of the universe and everything other people do is really all about ME, what you're really saying is that you think what I bought is a POS. And if you think what I bought is a POS then what you really mean is that I'M a POS! Well F*CK YOU!!!!"
While I suspect, or at least hope that most of the bashing is more in fun, when people get serious the above is why.
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I own both and like both. Though I do feel a little better using a Glock as a car gun instead of a 1911 that costs more than twice as much. Just not in condition one. I agree with this stance. I've owned both, shot both, and like both. I prefer to carry the 1911 over the Glock as I was never able to get comfortable carrying a Glock in Condition 1, IWB. I have no qualms about a 1911 carried that way.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I just don't get it. The two main ones are the Glock vs. 1911 guys. Why all the hate? If you own X why does it bother you when someone chooses Y or Z?? Some guns are better than others, for certain situations, obviously. Some guns require quite a bit more training to achieve the same level of safety and marksmanship than others. I think trying, and being familiar with LOTS of pistols is a good idea, but most don't have the time, inclination, or resources to do that. When folks ask me, I nearly always say a Glock 19 is almost never a bad choice. The last gun I bought was an XDm.
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I have owned more than a few of both Glock and 1911's, personally prefer the trigger of a good 1911, but will admit that a 1911 is not a beginners best choice at all.
I also have enjoyed my various Charter Arms, Kel Tec, and a few other brands not as commonly appreciated. For certain specified purposes, some of the lesser knowns have some good niche guns.
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As I stated in another post, this is a wonderful time to be a pistol carryin gun guy. LOTS of really good guns and choices out there. And, some fun caliber choices as well. 22TCM, 5.7x28 and 9x23 come to mind.
LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports.
About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500
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Buddhists call it identification, people tie their egos to their possessions or something that gives them their identity.
"So, you chose something other than what I chose. Well, since I'm the center of the universe and everything other people do is really all about ME, what you're really saying is that you think what I bought is a POS. And if you think what I bought is a POS then what you really mean is that I'M a POS! Well F*CK YOU!!!!"
While I suspect, or at least hope that most of the bashing is more in fun, when people get serious the above is why. Chit, this explains a lot about this place.
"If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go wherever they went." -Will Rogers
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Jim in Idaho,
I think that you have hit it right on, and squished a nerve or two.
If a person is getting their identity from their stuff, and that is a very precarious (and foolish x 100) position to be in. But, it does explain why some get all wound up over a "my way is the only way" thinking here.
LOVE God, LOVE your family, LOVE your country, LIKE guns and sports.
About 2016 team "R" candidates "We definitely need a crew with a sack of balls the size of hot water bottles, bloviated estrogen leaking feel-gooders need not apply." Gunner 500
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Mas Ayoob did a column in a Backwoods/prepper magazine years ago and opined that a 45acp, loaded with 200gr SWC's, would be a good low-tech defensive/survival option when and if "super-nine" ammo became scarce or unavailable. I can't make Barnes X's or Black Talons but I can cast 200gr SWC's.
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Jim in Idaho,
I think that you have hit it right on, and squished a nerve or two.
If a person is getting their identity from their stuff, and that is a very precarious (and foolish x 100) position to be in. But, it does explain why some get all wound up over a "my way is the only way" thinking here. OMFG! This might be the height of hypocrisy, Mr. Only-an-uber-magnum-is-capable. Do you even bother to think things through before you post them?
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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I was in a LGS yesterday that is really a tactical toy bin and was talking to one of their sales guys about some of their pistols in the glass case. He mentioned that he had, carried, and competed with a 1911 lightweight commander and couldn't get "comfortable" with a Glock grip because the angle was different.
I asked him if he ever shot single action revolvers and he said yes, then I asked him if he thought that grip angle was different than his 1911. "Well yup" was the response. He did seem super tactical with his appearance but what the heck it was a tactical shop and maybe he was a super competitor who didn't want his muscle memory to become confuse on the grip angle changes!!!!
I've got handguns with all kinds of grip angles from 1911, Glock Ruger, Sig, Single Action Colts, even ARs with all different grip angles and when I shoot them, I ADAPT, it's not hard to do.
My 1911 has a phenomenal trigger break to it but so do some of my Glocks, Rugers, and Sigs.
I like them all and love to shoot them all and I don't give a poop what you shoot as long as you are happy with it and then let's go shoot together.
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I love the "that gun doesn't fit me" line.
Always a knee slapper.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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My favorite is 45ACP vs 9mm for a carry piece.
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My favorite is 45ACP vs 9mm for a carry piece. You'd get buy with a .177.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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OMFG!
This might be the height of hypocrisy, Mr. Only-an-uber-magnum-is-capable.
Do you even bother to think things through before you post them? Not to mention that his screen name tells everyone "I've been to Africa and you haven't". I was also waiting for him to add that a good belt makes carrying easier.
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I don't know what you guys are thinking.
Pistols suck so give me a revolver and it better be a Smith&Wesson!
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OMFG!
This might be the height of hypocrisy, Mr. Only-an-uber-magnum-is-capable.
Do you even bother to think things through before you post them? Not to mention that his screen name tells everyone "I've been to Africa and you haven't". I was also waiting for him to add that a good belt makes carrying easier. Are all yankees this class conscious? Just sayin..... No damn wonder y'all can't elect a Republican.
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I have found the big revolver guys usually have a lot of common sense, same with Hi-Power owners but... People that carry a Hi-Point bother me...
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