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Brad, regardless of chambering they are great rifles!
Sure they might take a little tweaking but it is obviously worth it in the long run.
I'm beyond over my (current production)Sako phase.....grin
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Power, all 16 Montana's I've had would shoot something sub moa. A couple of them shot darn near everything sub moa.
I bedded all mine but I have never "resorted" to a pressure point. All barrels were free floated, but all shanks/chambers were bedded.
Montana's can be finicky, no doubt. But if you're flexible and allow the rifle to tell you what it likes, rather than try to force it to like something you want, you'll find something very accurate.
This 7-08 for example will not group a Partition... but loves a boattail. And it definitely prefers bullets heavier than 145 grains, even though I have more than a few tiny groups with the 140 NBT. It's far more consistent with the 150 NBT! I think the 150BT being more accurate than the 140BT is pretty much across the board with all rifles. Totally agree... have seen it often enough to know it's true.
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I'm beyond over my (current production)Sako phase.....grin
Wondered when the Finnish-Anvil phase would end
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Still hunt with the lightweight A7 but the 85 hasn't seen the light of day in a couple years.
Just checked Shedhorn online and no MT 270, was gonna sweet talk you into picking one up and giving it a tune-up but you're off the hook.....grin
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Nice shootin' Brad. You've got me wanting to develop a 150BT load for my 7-08. I have Varget, R15, H414, and Big Game. Oughta find something that will work.
I've only shot one big buck with the .284 150 NBT (ballistic silver tip actually), and it performed very well, entering right rear flank, found under skin in front left shoulder. Shot was fired from a 7mag at 3200fps @ muzzle, Deer was very dead at 150 yards.
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Damn that Kimber crapshoot! My four all shoot similar and only one has been tweaked!
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Yeah, you have a real problem case there. I'll give you $700 for it....
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Damn that Kimber crapshoot! My four all shoot similar and only one has been tweaked! I've had several that were great out of the box and several that needed a little work. I also had one that was a total loss and needed a new barrel. They are a nice rifle but acting like Kimber Roulette isn't real would be naive.
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Power, all 16 Montana's I've had would shoot something sub moa. A couple of them shot darn near everything sub moa.
I bedded all mine but I have never "resorted" to a pressure point. All barrels were free floated, but all shanks/chambers were bedded.
Montana's can be finicky, no doubt. But if you're flexible and allow the rifle to tell you what it likes, rather than try to force it to like something you want, you'll find something very accurate.
This 7-08 for example will not group a Partition... but loves a boattail. And it definitely prefers bullets heavier than 145 grains, even though I have more than a few tiny groups with the 140 NBT. It's far more consistent with the 150 NBT! I think the 150BT being more accurate than the 140BT is pretty much across the board with all rifles. Totally agree... have seen it often enough to know it's true. Dang, I better try the 150s then, because mine shoots 140's about like Brad's shoots 150's. Know where I can get some 2000 MR? I just got some 150 Scenars, gotta give those a try too. It shoots 120 BTs best though.
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Hey Brad, I know this is the "7mm-08" thread but what was your most accurate .308 bullet in your multiple Montana's?
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Hey Brad, I know this is the "7mm-08" thread but what was your most accurate .308 bullet in your multiple Montana's? Every one of them would shoot either a 165 or 168 NBT sub-moa with Varget or RL15.
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A shame those Montanas won't shoot. Yours looks pretty picky with powders too.
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Yeah, it's sort of an embarrassment of riches when it came to powders for this particular rifle... I didn't put up pics with Big Game... that worked great as well.
And the 308's... well, you could load them with rocks over dirt and they'll still shoot!
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Hey Brad, I know this is the "7mm-08" thread but what was your most accurate .308 bullet in your multiple Montana's? Every one of them would shoot either a 165 or 168 NBT sub-moa with Varget or RL15. Thanks....
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Now if I could just figure out how to get 180 BTs to shoot well in mine I'd be a happy camper. It's the one I want it to shoot well but it doesn't. ...yet. Shoots them ~1.25" and I've tried different powders, primers and seating depths.
I can see a 7-08 Montana in my future.
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prm, you tried 200 NBT's?
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This thing sucks... definitely won't group 150 Ballistic Tips.
You have darnest time with these rifles.. I don't understand why you don't just sell'em all.... if it comes to that let me know ....
Montana's can be finicky, no doubt. But if you're flexible and allow the rifle to tell you what it likes, rather than try to force it to like something you want, you'll find something very accurate. ..... ^^^ I think this is very wise advice, that I don't think enough people accept.. dont try to force something if the rifle doesn't want it. Be Safe,
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Having owned one Kimber, a 338 Federal SuperAmerica, I'm no expert but.......
It is a very light rifle and needs to be held tightly when shooting off bags or in the field.
Mine hated all factory ammo I tried and the 160 TSX. Finally with the 185 TSX and 4198 I had a 1" 3 shot gun. Only killed a cow Elk with it. Broke both shoulders and flop. Bullet went into the mud bank behind her.
Finally woke up to the fact that when you have horses, rifle weight is somewhat immaterial except that a 9 pound 300 H&H is a better hunting rig than a 6.5 pound 338 Federal. So the Kimber went down the road and I now have 5 300 H&Hs.
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prm, you tried 200 NBT's? Not with this rifle. I have not been able to locate any to try in awhile. They are on my to-do list though.
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