Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles Remington 700 recall....every last one of them

it's been a long time since Remington made M700s that you needed to take the safety off to unload. just sayin'

Safety change. Yes, but most of their problems came after they changed the safety. My original Model 700's were around 1968 models. there have been a lot of accidents since then. Changing to the Mark X did not seem to help much.

and an 'accident' involving a rifle that can be unloaded while on safe does not involve a certain amount of stupidity?

two thoughts here:

first, EVERY rifle I press into service gets the safety function test. comfirm empty, cycle the bolt hard (no click), put on safe, pull trigger (no click), move safety to 'fire' (no click), pull trigger (should click).

second, 40 years worth of WD-40 sludge is not your friend.

You seem like a resonable sane guy , guessing the 700's you had an issue with were ones that locked the bolt down with the saftey on or someone did some trigger work that shouldn't have.

Proof that love IS blind.

Sent my gun in 11 days ago and it was returned to my door today. That is fast turnaround with the trigger replaced and test fired. No complaints, but the trigger definetely has a different feel to it, not as crisp and seems to have a little creep. Still better trigger than I have on most of my guns so no real issue.

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The gun going off is Remington's fault. The gun going off and wounding or killing someone is the operator's fault.
There is no way around that.

Guess I should send in the 721.

As my gunsmith said....every alleged AD of a Remington trigger is:

1. Some idiot mis-adjusted the trigger.

2. Some idiot has never cleaned it.

3. The shooter accidentally hit/pulled the trigger and didnt realize it or now won't admit to it.

By the time you old ladies get done blubbering everybody will be scared to walk by the gun safe in fear those M700's will jump out and shoot everybody in the room.........

Casey

[bleep] your smith. Don't fall within those guidlines. Howbout Remington [bleep] UP AND FINALLY IS COMING TO TERMS WITH IT. My 721 did go off and theres no coming to terms with what might have happened. Have 700's that i'm completely good with them.

No 40X`s in the mix? I think it`s a 700 design, isn`t it? Is the trigger assembly different? I`ve always ASSUMED it to be a 700. Maybe I`m wrong....but my point is that in 20 years of High Power shooting, rapids, slow fire etc. not once in all that time, or thousands of rounds fired, did the rifle have an AD.
Am I indeed lucky, or are some of the AD`s killing folks operator error?
One thing I will agree with, any company is asking for trouble when an adjustable trigger is placed on any rifle, just too many people who judge themselves "gunsmiths".

CG -

I too am skeptical and I know some 'hate' Remingtons just because.

I 'have had' and HAVE more Rem 700s than any other make/model rifles.

Since 1976 I have not been without at least 1 and most of the time multiple 700s.

Also thousands and thousands of rounds fired>>NO accidental firings OR auto discharges. So...............

They ain't getting any of mine!

I don't see where they mention the 721. Any help with that?

Talked to a reputable guy the other day who had a contract with somebody to see if he could get a remington 700 to discharge accidentally. He said he filled the action with as much grime dust, dirt, mud etc. many times. After getting the action thoroughly gummed up,...sure enough, when closing the bolt on a loaded round, it discharged. It completely soured him on remington 700 actions. This really bums me out as I was considering doing a custom build on a 700. I am still not sure what I will do.

I'd probably build on a Remington action and try to clean it every now and then.

I'm bad to clean my stuff when it its gets dirty, I'm crazy like that though.

RatherBHuntin
So you are saying you would build a custom rifle abuse the crap out of it and think it was the rifle problem because you never cleaned or took care of it. You would not upgrade the trigger when customizing? Anything man made can be broken if you try hard enough.

Does an aftermarket trigger eliminate the 700 potential to fire upon closing the bolt? I know the previous experiment is overkill but just wondering if the company trigger is the problem?

The problem with Remington 700 series triggers is sort of like an urban myth that everybody has heard about, but nobody actually knows anybody who ever actually had it happen.

Since there are millions of Remington 700 series rifles in circulation and, as with any mechanical device produced in a high volume production environment, there is almost certainly going to be some built-in rate of error. With so few problems and so many units in circulation, the probability of any one person coming in contact with a flawed unit is very small, probably less than 1 problem trigger in every 100,000 units.

Picture it this way: You buy $1,000 in U.S. pennies, 100,000 of them. Throw 99,999 of them on your dining room floor along with 1 Canadian penny. How many pennies do you have to pick up before you find the Canadian penny? Better odds than winning the Powerball/Megamillion lotteries, but damn long odds all the same.

Or so it seems to me.