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Anyone for a .240 Weatherby Vs the .25/06? Only those who have also shot the 6mm/06 can answer.
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The rule of thumb on the Campfire is the less actual ballistic difference between two rounds, the longer the thread. So,if I was to start a thread about the .270 Win and the .280 Rem,being almost two peas-in-a-pod it would go for infinity? How about a thread on the 7mm-06 vs. the 280 Remington?
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The rule of thumb on the Campfire is the less actual ballistic difference between two rounds, the longer the thread. So,if I was to start a thread about the .270 Win and the .280 Rem,being almost two peas-in-a-pod it would go for infinity? How about a thread on the 7mm-06 vs. the 280 Remington? That's not fair.......such a worthy comparison should also include the 7mm Remington Express, you know that!
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No,no,no, start a thread about the 7.62x51 VS. the .308 win VS. 7.62 NATO.
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My best use for a .308 was to take off the barrel and put another caliber on the action...
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I own a fairly light model 70, #2 contour, Edge stocked 300 Win. Mag. with 24" barrel. I get the 168gr TSX to shoot about 3200fps.
I mainly hunt moose, sheep, goats, black bear, with some elk and deer in lower 48. I also hunt in areas that have brown bear and/or grizzlies at times.
I was thinking of a 300 Weatherby for a change and wondered if it was really ballistically worth it or if it's more for nostalgia?
I want a rifle all-up at 7.5 lbs or less; I would stay with a 24" barrel. Also for multi-purpose hunts.
What trajectory differences would there be between those cartridges? Any experience to share? Having gained a little more experience, I would say that the 300 win mag, in the right rifle and hands, has more advantages. Anyone else feel the same?
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IME there's 100 fps diff tween the two. I'd stay with the Winnie the Pooh.
And just so you know the rifle you describe sounds absolutely wonderful!
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The rule of thumb on the Campfire is the less actual ballistic difference between two rounds, the longer the thread. So,if I was to start a thread about the .270 Win and the .280 Rem,being almost two peas-in-a-pod it would go for infinity? How about a thread on the 7mm-06 vs. the 280 Remington? That's not fair.......such a worthy comparison should also include the 7mm Remington Express, you know that! Probably the same folks who would argue that the 300 Roy is so much better than the WinMag are the same ones who would say there is no difference between a 270 and the 280 Ackley...
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IME there's 100 fps diff tween the two. I'd stay with the Winnie the Pooh.
And just so you know the rifle you describe sounds absolutely wonderful!
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I own a fairly light model 70, #2 contour, Edge stocked 300 Win. Mag. with 24" barrel. I get the 168gr TSX to shoot about 3200fps.
I mainly hunt moose, sheep, goats, black bear, with some elk and deer in lower 48. I also hunt in areas that have brown bear and/or grizzlies at times.
I was thinking of a 300 Weatherby for a change and wondered if it was really ballistically worth it or if it's more for nostalgia?
I want a rifle all-up at 7.5 lbs or less; I would stay with a 24" barrel. Also for multi-purpose hunts.
What trajectory differences would there be between those cartridges? Any experience to share? Having gained a little more experience, I would say that the 300 win mag, in the right rifle and hands, has more advantages. Anyone else feel the same? No..Not at all
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I *think* (correct me if I'm wrong) factory speeds for 150 grain bullets are:
.300 WM - 3290 fps
.300 WTBY - 3550 fps
.300 RUM - 3450 fps
The RUM seems to be seriously underloaded.
I took my new chrony to the range yesterday and was able to get 3500 fps from my Win. Mag. From the pressure signs, I wouldn't be comfortable using that load, but 3400 fps is very realistic.
Fastest handloads for the other two I've seen listed are:
.300 WTBY - 3650 fps
.300 RUM - 3874 fps (!)
As far as my limited experience on plains game is concerned, I think the more the better on the big stuff (eland, giraffe) (and 200 grain premium bullets) but for the rest, .300 WM is plenty.
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I've killed plenty of BG with both of these carriages and the differences in the way they kill amounts a piss hole in the snow.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob,
I'd like to think if you had posted this on page 1 it would have been the end to the thread, but we both know differently. I've done the same, but probably to not nearly as many critters. That said, my Remington KS 300 Wby is like an old friend and I think that matters more than caliber.
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Bob did post on the first page of this thread when it started in 2009, saying pretty much the same thing but in a different way.
Just wondering if some of the people posting here now realize the thread started back then, came back in 2012, and is now dragging itself gutshot into 2015.
It might or might not be worth noting that the original poster (brooksrange) hasn't posted on it since starting the thing.
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if you google .300 Win Mag vs .300 Weatherby, this thread pops up at the top of the list, it will live forever.
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Just wondering if some of the people posting here now realize the thread started back then, came back in 2012, and is now dragging itself gutshot into 2015. It happens ALL too often, but I've never read such a funny description of the phenomenon.
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Bob,
I'd like to think if you had posted this on page 1 it would have been the end to the thread, but we both know differently. I've done the same, but probably to not nearly as many critters. That said, my Remington KS 300 Wby is like an old friend and I think that matters more than caliber. AKbob/Mule Deer: Hell no I didn't even think back that far LOL! Consider my post retracted and please ignore.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob (inNH), I didn't realize how old the thread was or that you had posted back in 2009. My point was only to 1) give you credit for many years of hunting and a passel of critters, and 2) agreeing with you that there is very little to no difference between the two under field conditions. But what the hell, truthfully,there isn't always a lot of new ground to hash.
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