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Trying to help John... I never tire of looking at her! You are still the grand poobah!
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a single cartridge will never be perfect Ahem...... The first smokeless cartridge I believe was the 7x57....no major improvements have occurred since then. Except the 223AI.... Shrap was right...my butt just puckers when I hear "7MM Mag..." I thought the 8mm Lebel was the first smokeless cartridge?
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Tom,
Thanks! That's far more interesting than all the other posts so far. More help, I hope..
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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a single cartridge will never be perfect Ahem...... The first smokeless cartridge I believe was the 7x57....no major improvements have occurred since then. Except the 223AI.... Shrap was right...my butt just puckers when I hear "7MM Mag..." I thought the 8mm Lebel was the first smokeless cartridge? It might be...dats why I put "I believe"....
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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That was funny -- there's also an underrated. That's at the bottom of the story.
I disagree pretty strongly about the 223 being underrated. It does so many things well and has such a range of goodness.
Up hills slow, Down hills fast Tonnage first and Safety last.
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Tom,
Actually, there were smokeless cartridges before the 8mm Lebel, but they weren't centerfire rifle cartridges.
Nobody really gave a schidt because women had been around for far longer, an attitude that can help the Campfire a lot--though apparently not for everybody.
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Thanks!
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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I have a loaded 8mm Lebel cartridge. Pretty cool round.
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Nothing new to post. Am just going to repeat what I posted this morning:
"Personally, I am SHOCKED that any magazine would run a controversial article in an attempt to attract readers. I am far less shocked that so many Campfire members have helped spread the word about this shocking article."
Might do this again, more or less randomly, until photos of women start outnumbering predictable posts on rifle cartridges. One for the guys in eastern Montana...
Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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Hunt with Class and Classics
Religion: A founder of The Church of Spray and Pray
Acquit v. t. To render a judgment in a murder case in San Francisco... EQUAL, adj. As bad as something else. Ambrose Bierce “The Devil's Dictionary”
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Without bother to read the other comments, two things come to mind: 1. The deploreable state of magazines these days, and NRA mags in particular. I can burn through an American Rifleman faster than a Guns and Ammo, which is saying something. 2. Who is this Bozo, and why should I give a rat's ass what he thinks about this or anything else. What an incredible waste of time and ink. The writer and the editor should both be horsewhipped.
What fresh Hell is this?
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Trying to help John... Don't know about John, but you certainly helped me! Whoo Hoo! Here's one that might help:
Last edited by Pappy348; 03/24/15.
What fresh Hell is this?
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1. 7mm Remington Mag 2. 7mm Remington Mag 3. 7mm Remington Mag 4. 7mm Remington Mag 5. 7mm Remington Mag and a close #6... 7mm Remington Mag Pure blasphemy!!!!!! i don't think so, shrapnel had it right the first time. Totally useless, noisy round, phooey.
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Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association
Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I agree on the 300 Wby , 270 WSM, 458 WM and the 223, but not the Swift. The standard 270 Win does any thing you can ask for a 270 bullet to do, The lotts has it all over the 458 WM, I have never believed the 300 WBY could do anything the 300 WM couldn't do and the the 222 Remington Mag has it all over the 223 for loading with it longer neck. I love the 223 for hunting but in reality the 222 Mag is better.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Not strange that many folks on the fire have ass and titty on their mind all the time. Makes one wonder what they have in their hand.
Wonder if the site advertisers know they are supporting a porn site.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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Porn? what porn? link? thanks!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Not strange that many folks on the fire have ass and titty on their mind all the time. Makes one wonder what they have in their hand.
Wonder if the site advertisers know they are supporting a porn site. Your keen interest in what my hand is doing is very touching, if a little disturbing. Rest assured that I have someone that takes care of those matters for me. Perhaps you should concentrate on the darkness in YOUR mind. The rest of us are enjoying a joke. As that great theologian Harry Callahan once said, "A man's got to know his limitations". Someone that can't look at a picture of a pretty girl without getting all twitchy might want to think about staying off the www......and maybe staying indoors.
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For sure I don't have a keen interest in what your hand is doing. I for one don't have any appreciation for your so called pussy and titty jokes. You want me to stay off the WWW fine, you keep your hand out of Inge's thong. I don't wish to thumb through soft porn to follow the dialogue in a thread.
Beware of thieves, scammers and dishonest members on the "Fire" classifieds. Ya there is a thief here too. Whatever!!
They're all around the CampFire and everywhere.
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