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I can't decide.....Hornady 139 SP or Barnes 140 TTSX? Both shoot great in my rifle. Another bullet perhaps? Partitions and Accubonds are like hen's teeth up here so don't even go there.
Anybody have real life experience with either on moose or a big elk?
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Either would work. I like the 140 TTSX if you drive it keep it close range (under 250) and drive it ~2800 fps. Otherwise, I'd stick that Hornady through the lungs.
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Without question, 140gr TTSX. This bullets digs and digs and digs.
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I'd use the TTSX in that scenario.
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I reload and have had good results accuracy-wise with both 145 grain Speer Grand Slams and Speer Boat Tails. Although the Boat Tails are a bit more accurate, I understand that the Grand Slams is a tougher bullet. Since I hunt deer, hogs and elk, I will probably go with the Grand Slams. There are a host of powders that work well in the 7mm-08 which makes load development interesting.
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The 140 TTSX, no question. (The 140 XFB worked on moose and many caribou back in the day…never recovered one either.)
While I have shot quite a few moose 'in the slats' (where the 139 would work just fine), I have also had a good percentage of kills involving shots where that bullet would have meant problems if it had been used. 140 is as light as I care to run for moose in the 7mm caliber, and then, only with a mono of some flavor. I would actually prefer 10 or 20 grains more, and especially the latter weights when using a Partition.
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150 Ballistic Tip worked well on a fully mature bull elk for me this past year. I think bull elk are a bit tougher than bull moose.
My first choice for the 7-08 would be a 140 Accubond or Partition.
My choice of the 150 Ballistic Tip was strictly based on accuracy, but knowing full well its construction was up to any task I had.
I'm not a mono fan...
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150 Ballistic Tip worked well on a fully mature bull elk for me this past year. I think bull elk are a bit tougher than bull moose. Elk may be less inclined to lie down where you want them to, but they surely aren't as resistive to bullets as moose can be. Accuracy need not be a primary factor in choosing a load for animals the size of moose.
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150 Ballistic Tip worked well on a fully mature bull elk for me this past year. I think bull elk are a bit tougher than bull moose. Elk may be less inclined to lie down where you want them to, but they surely aren't as resistive to bullets as moose can be. Accuracy need not be a primary factor in choosing a load for animals the size of moose. I've been in on the killing of AK moose. Didn't strike me as especially hard to kill. Certainly no different than elk, and perhaps a bit "softer." My shots on elk can come out past 500 yards, so accuracy always interests me.
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Yup, three different occasions. I'm done.
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I forget? TSX or TTSX?
At least they are dead. You kill some great Bulls Brad!
Can't Imagine a light for cal TTSX not being wicked as [bleep]..
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This TTSX: Did okay on this guy:
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I can't decide.....Hornady 139 SP or Barnes 140 TTSX? Both shoot great in my rifle. Another bullet perhaps? Partitions and Accubonds are like hen's teeth up here so don't even go there.
Anybody have real life experience with either on moose or a big elk? Not sure exactly where you are in Manitoba but Saskatchewan it is easy enough to find 7mm partitions and accubonds that it may be worth a road trip. Of course either of the two bullets mentioned will get the job done with due care and careful placement. I personally like slightly lighter X bullets like the 120 for 7mm.
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I said nothing about hard to kill. Moose are hard on bullets. The majority of moose I've killed have stopped bullets; everything including Core-lokts, Hot-Cors, GameKings, Partitions, FailSafes, Ballistic Tips, XFBs, Uni-Cors, Grand Slams, TSXs, Weldcores, Interlocks, A-Frames… I have them. Doesn't matter whether they are shot with 6.5x55, 7mm-08, 30-30, 30-06, 340 Wtby, 358 Norma, 375, 45-70, moose don't have any trouble stopping stuff. The 139 Interlock is an ideal caribou bullet in the 7mm-08. Perhaps it's fine for elk; I can't say one way or another. I certainly wouldn't suggest it as a good choice for hunting moose. Monos have lost their luster with me as well, but the TTSX is easily the better choice of the two the OP inquires about. I think the tip has certainly helped it overcome the most serious problems it previously had sometimes.
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I forget? TSX or TTSX?
At least they are dead. You kill some great Bulls Brad!
Can't Imagine a light for cal TTSX not being wicked as [bleep].. Had a TTSX fail to open, as well as the original Barnes and Failsafes. Good news is it's a free country and all are welcome to use what they wish... unless of course you live in CA.
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I said nothing about hard to kill. Moose are hard on bullets. The majority of moose I've killed have stopped bullets; everything including Core-lokts, Hot-Cors, GameKings, Partitions, FailSafes, Ballistic Tips, XFBs, Uni-Cors, Grand Slams, TSXs, Weldcores, Interlocks, A-Frames… I have them. Doesn't matter whether they are shot with 6.5x55, 7mm-08, 30-30, 30-06, 340 Wtby, 358 Norma, 375, 45-70, moose don't have any trouble stopping stuff. The 139 Interlock is an ideal caribou bullet in the 7mm-08. Perhaps it's fine for elk; I can't say one way or another. I certainly wouldn't suggest it as a good choice for hunting moose. Monos have lost their luster with me as well, but the TTSX is easily the better choice of the two the OP inquires about. I think the tip has certainly helped it overcome the most serious problems it previously had sometimes. I think your point about "hard on bullets, not hard to kill" is a good one and agree, I'd rather use the TTSX over the 139 Hdy. But he also asked about the Partition or Accubond, and those are what I'd use (and do use) over either the Barnes or Hdy. And I can't imagine whatever works well for elk wouldn't work similarly on mooose.
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More about moose stopping bullets my buddy shot a spike fork with a 375 RUM using a 270gr tsx at about 100yds recovered the bullet on the off shoulder. My buddy shot a big ol bull with a 338 win mag using 250gr cor lockt no exit I hit same bull with a 200gr accubond out my 325 wsm no exit and another buddy hit it with a 300 RUM 180gr accubond no exit either. Moose can soak up a lot lead. With my daughter 7-08 I load 120gr tsx and my wife 7-08 I use a 139gr hornady GMX.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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But he also asked about the Partition or Accubond, and those are what I'd use (and do use) over either the Barnes or Hdy. And I can't imagine whatever works well for elk wouldn't work similarly on mooose.
Partitions are my preference these days, but… Partitions and Accubonds are like hen's teeth up here so don't even go there.
180 Woodleigh, 30-06, centered on near side shoulder at less than 40 yards; it caught the far side blade as well - in the thinner edges; stopped just beyond in muscle. 250 Swift A-Frame, 2700 fps, 358 Norma, approx 200 yards, small bull moose; centered onside shoulder blade, stopped inside chest cavity (lungs). I've pulled 850 grains of 340 Weatherby lead out of a single bull, broadside at around 200 yards, including a Grand Slam and three intact, expanded NBTs. None hit big bones. Moose are good-bullet-worthy obstacles.
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