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Dave R good point.

That said my real name is Abe Froman and I am the sausage KING of Chicago, maybe you know my brother Ron Mexico.

That said my real name is Abe Froman and I am the sausage KING of Chicago, maybe you know my brother Ron Mexico.
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LMAO! frankly i really dont care. given that most of my info is on the net somewheres and anyone who makes a half arsed attempt can find out where i live. not hard in a town of 3,000 and im one of the main ppl at the local newspaper. if someone wanted to track me down it would be quite simple. even so called secure computers seem to be getting hacked or just disappearing

Look in my profile and google me, you will even come up with a real picture.

I guess I just got tired of Nigerian Scams and a plethora of crap when I used my given name. I don't even like to use my credit cards on the internet regardless of the "proclaimed" secure connections. I have had some hacking, viruses and several attempts to get my identity. I just won't do it and any board that insists on personal info other than what I want to give will have me delete myself from it. It is my own personal security and that is all the reason I need.

Don't worry--he's the Law. The Law would never misuse information like that, would it?

From as early as I can remember I have been taught to use a handle in Naval Intelligence. Why?

You never know what is in another man's mind. Gene, people can and will track you down and harrass the heck out of you for silly things. Black and WHite hackers do it for fun. I know a lot of these guys. They want to exploit your name and information and social security and credit cards and credit report and whatever else the newest thing is. This board is a reserved and well behaved group of guys. But that cannot be said for anti-hunters, anti-gun, PETA, and other zealouts that want to crush you and get at you any way they can. They have lines of servers breaking into these kind of sites all the time to steal information. This is a fact and these groups have mucho dinero to fund projects.

I am not paranoid; this was my MOS in the Navy. It is real. If I disagree I might send a PM with my name. Why not. If I make a friend, I include my name. But otherwise, how many years will go by and you will forget about one day of information you posted online that may haunt you. You are not dishonest, but the hearts of some men are.

Best
National Security Agency

Navy does not have MOS - its rate or NEC within the rate. FYI.

All I can say is I've been posting on the internet since 1993 or so and PETA nor anyone else has ever attacked me.

You stand more of a chance of getting compromised when you use your credit card in a motel than here. And anyone should suppose that a true web guy already has all the information on you he wants or is interersted in.

So, if you're concerned about security, go for it. Just refrain from making rude and accusing comments about others.

However, if you use annonyminit's shield to call people ugly names and make groundless accusations or attack them, then you are a wimp.

And I see a lot of that here.

I accuse you as you accuse us. If you have a problem with a poster or posters, name names. Don't tar us all with whatever it is bothering you.

What you see as anon attacking against two people is prob a long standing fued you aren't privy to. You have not been here as long as some others so you may not know that 2 people know eachother better than the internet handle shows.

Honestly there are a-holes that will be insulting no matter whether they use their name or a handle, and folks with handles that are polite as can be.

I use my first name and last initial on most forums I post to, but I'd just gotten a 458 Lott when I started here, so decided to use a handle.

I've met a few folks here face to face, and have visited quite a bit with some of them. They are just as opinionated in person as on the net.

What I find more amusing is how wound up and p/o'd folks get about anonymose posts on the net. It's like my kids, when they see one of their siblings getting upset about something, they needle them to no end.

Given that we often discuss many of our personal holdings, there are many out there that I do not want to readily furnish an inventory for. Likely they are not the regulars here, but we do not know who else might be lurking. A little googling and map questing could put them on my doorstep with ease, and we often mention upcoming trips etc that would reveal pending longterm absences. Also, none of us are truly hiding. If the powers found some evidence that one of us was involved in less than shiny behavior, they could show up near your keyboard in short order. It's actually quite amusing how much personal information can be gleaned from these pages. Aside from the obvious material listed for each of us, many post pictures that yield things like house numbers and addresses as well as vehicle license numbers etc. The dark side figured out how to exploit the web long ago, so I would rather keep everyone safe instead of sorry. 1Minute

I would like to agree with you and Gene. But I've learned from 26 years teaching in public schools; it's best that everyone not know what car I drive, where I park it, or where I live.

I post here how many guns I own. I ain't gonna tell the whole lurking world my address and hang out a sign that says "come steal em".

I ain't skeered of anyone who posts here. It's the bazillions of people that have access to information posted here that wories me.

There's some bad people in the world who just might decide they don't like me very much for killing Bambi. I don't want to be watching my backside because of things like that.

So my handle will remain. My name will go to you in a PM. Those of you I've meet face to face or had dealings with I trust. There are a lot of others that read at this place and we have no idea who they may be.

Perhaps some of you low-tech Baby boomers don't realiaze just how much hurt can be dumped on you by someone who got a little too much information about you over the internet. It ain't pretty and it ain't easy to clean up the mess afterwards.

It's the INTERNET. It isn't real. I don't worry about it. JMHO and of course as always YMMV.

Gene L, how do we know that is your real name and who cares. This is the internet. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Gene, Ken,

Would I be told Im just speculating and reading something in to this that just isn't there to suggest Im being called out with a couple of others as well Gene?

Im a coward then, according to your standards. I can live with that. I have been personally threatened, and from right here on the Campfire, by a regular. I have no doubt the person would have told the lies he threatened to tell, if had known my name and where I actually work.

Gene, I IM'd you about that because I believe it prudent advice, especially when you work for a politician such as a sheriff or DA. I think its clear from that IM I meant you no harm or ill will, and I meant it to just give my friendly $.02, and to be somewhat of an olive branch to let you know its not personal here atleast not for me. You weren't polite enough (I wont try to insult your manhood) to even reply with a thank you but I'll do it my way, screw you, or thanks I'll keep that in mind...nothing! Its clear to me you take this a little too personally.

Maybe you have a long standing history with your boss such that he'd back you no matter what. I don't know. I can tell you that I don't have that kind of relationship with my boss because he will tell you that nobody he has working for him can't be replaced, and I will take that espcecially mean the new guy. I personally don't know my boss well enough to know how he'd feel about me putting out my personal opinions here if he thought it reflected on him, but Im guessing from what I know about him he'd say something like "Well, its ok for you to have your opinions, but I don't like that one in particular that this person notified me of, and you can pick up your final check next friday. Nothing personal." And he'd be well within his rights. Im an at will employee, and he has to consider how voters think about him. I have seen it happen to another guy I used to police with. And when someone figured who he was and where he worked because he gave enough info on the net, somebody from the forum complained to the cheif about his attitude. He was told that when it came to work, he didn't have a 1st amendment right, and he almost got in trouble over it...just for offending somebody. As a matter of fact he had many of the same "Im blue and the world is against me" attitude you seem to have and that was what offended. Basically he was ranting against lawyers, inept prosecutors and defense alike, and telling people how it was, and they didn't have to like it, but that was the way it is, cops are never wrong...etc. So I have seen it go bad for people when they gave out too much info.

Gene? I tell you what sir. I think you're basically a decent hard working guy with some attitudes I disagree with somewhat, but not enough to make it a personal dislike. I will drive to GA and buy you a beer or cup of coffee and introduce myself to you, BECAUSE I think you're stand up enough to keep it in confidence here. You say the word and we'll work out a time and place.

Ken, when you can eat and drink again, and I hope that is very soon, I will fly out to see you and do the same, and consider it an honor.

I don't know Gene, anyone here can pretty much figure out my name and where I live since my last name is very rare.

I used to feel the same way, in other words willing to put my name to my opinions, but now I'm not so sure. Considering the nature of hunting & guns vs. the anti's, and considering that I have three teenage daughters, I'm now thinking it wasn't smart of me to put myself out there. Not really from any fellow hunter I have debated on gun control, but rather some PETA phsyco in CA who could google me, and be outside my home in a ninety minute drive from SF CA.
I really never fear anyone standing in front of me so much as the little bastard in the middle of the night. I have been thinking about pulling my name and going with a new handle, why risk it?

Yep, that's just the kind of chickenshit I'm talking about. You work for the Law too, except for a higher level, if you're telling the truth, and there's no indication that you are.

I wonder if you're pleasing your Boss with snide little comments like that? I'm glad I'm not in your shoes, Barak. I'd rather be an occasional hypocrite than a constant one.

Gene,

If you have been posting on the Internet for 13 years and you still don't understand why people prefer to use handles rather than their real names then you really are a slow learner.

The ability to state one's views anonymously is exactly why so many people chose to particpate in forums.

Being anonymous gives everyone equal status in a debate, since the participants can't "pigeon hole" their opponents and attempt to gain advantage in the discussion by simply disparaging the other person's background or experience.

As a relative newcomer to this forum, I have yet to encounter
any of the "wimps" you are referring to, as a matter of fact, most of the time when people don't like what I say here they tend to literally "kick my butt".

If you dont' care, it doesn't matter. If you do care, google it. Otherwise, your pie hole is open.