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~ A hunter known for many years is fully pleased w/ his 700 BDL in 338 Win Mag.

-It has 1 in 10 twist, & some good Leupold glass.
Put a Hornady 225 Spire on top of a big load of 785, use BR primers & group about 2/3 moa all day.

*Has Superb Results all the way out to 400. Highly Probable IMO much further than that, but prooven at 400.

Just found this site while search-n Savage Levers in 358 Win. Feel right at home already.

BUFFALOBOB,

thanks for the help. I know what you mean about the weight.
tring to find a happy medium. Maybe the builders can give some
direction. Thanks again
GPM <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well, if you have the money and want to shoot as far as possible, then a step or two closer to the .50 BMG, the .338 Lapua is it.
http://www.snipercentral.com/338.htm

The problem is that not only the rifle is expensive, but the scope you will need for it, as well as brass. Add the .338 Lazzeroni to this one.

The next step would be a .340, but again ammo and brass for it is expensive. You can add the .330 Dakota to the ones above, ant to this one too.

Further down the line you can find the poor man's .338 Lapua. It uses approximately the same amount of powder, but its brass is much cheaper. This one is the .338RUM, one that some hunters and shooters can't always handle its recoil, and end-up selling it for a fair price, much lower than what they paid for it.

Here is a picture of the LongBow, which Dakota builds in three different calibers, including the .338 Lapua.
http://www.snipercentral.com/longbow.htm

I'll add Greg Tannel and Chris Matthews to the good LR smiths.

gpm,

If you want a light weight rifle, try the Weatherby UltraLightweight in .270 Winchester caliber. I think it weighs something like 5.5 pounds with a 24" barrel.

Personally I do most of my hunting with that model but in 300 Weatherby, which weighs just a little more. I carry my rifle a lot more than I shoot it and can easily hit game at 300 yards with the appropriate rest.

Anyone sho shoots a "long range" rifle 300 times per month is going to be replacing barrels more than twice per year.

Lucznik

Shooting mid ranges is not all that complicated. It can be done mostly by lots of dryfiring at home here and there. Range work to verify zero's and what changes them and a good rangefinder.

The hard part is wind estimation. Thats what takes quite a bit of shooting in conditions. Out to 200 its rare that it effects much. At 300 if any wind, its always a consequence to be considered. Beyond that it can become very tricky. And even if you have computer or fired wind drift data, and a wind speed meter, there is often more involved.

I don't really care who your father was, or how he shot, it does not instill wind reading capability into your personal skill. I submit that if you are having lots of luck on those mid range plus a bit shots, you are either shooting in calm conditions or close to, or you have not been "unlucky" YET.

That all being said, I do not know you and therefore may be off base, but wind reading skills, consistantly good ones, take a bit of practice. I know it took me some years to get to the top 0.5 % of competitive shooters at the nationals.

Regards, Jeff

It's all about knowing your limitations (especially in the wind)--which, of course, does take a fair amount of practice time at a minimum. And even more than knowing them, being responsible about staying within them.

In my case, I wish I could practice many times as much as I do. The result is I'll pass on shots at game that I know I'd be able to make if I practiced more. The wind condition/distance threshhold where I feel confident in the shot is lower than it would be if I could practice more and get better.

I'm guessing it's a rare individual who practices so much he's so good he simply can't get any better. Honestly assessing the limitations of one's skill and equipment and staying within those limitations (even when you see big horns) is just as important as how high or low those limits are for an individual IMHO.

People should be encouraged to practice as much as possible, but I don't think that's a problem to those who read boards like this vs the "once a year shooters." Mostly because it's fun and anybody who enjoys it as much as we do won't be satisfied filling 1 or 2 tags a year as their only shooting. But the great thing about hunting is you never have to take the shot.

Yeah, that's the best part about living in Wyoming... we never get any wind <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



I don't believe in luck. I believe in being careful and taking only shots I know I can make. In my (admittedly, relatively short) 22 years of hunting I have yet to lose any animal that I have shot. If you choose to call this "luck," so be it.



Probably a reasonable assumption.

You must use a faster gunsmith than me if you can get rebarreled twice a year <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

What about a 190Gr Hornady PSP out of a good old .308, 46 in. of drop @ 500 yds 2700 ft/s MV should do the trick.

190 at 2,700?

Regardless, not much velocity out at 500 to open that projectile like I'd want. Aimed right would no doubt do the deed tho...

I use Greg's services for the largest percentage of work I have done. Primarly because he is local, well, somewhat local.