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Never had virgin brass in my life from LC stuff, though it was out there, once fired did plenty fine over the years. FWIW.

99% of my .223 brass is once fired range brass that I pick up. I came across the fresh LC brass a few years ago and the deal was too good to pass on. I'd buy it again today if I found it.

I'm still in the old days of 19 bucks per 1000 of LC brass... probably why we have so much brass stashed around... LOL.

Guess the ones I shot yesterday on the target are no great loss with split necks. I am thankful I only have maybe 5000 or so loaded as most will split on firing after being in the heat for so many years in storage.

Are AR10 platforms included in this? I just ran the two targets with my GAP10 6Creed, and it shot pretty good.

what advantage, if any, of the 6 Creed vs. the 6.5 Creed?

The range at Fort Peck, Montana. Light winds, 45*F.



Rifle: GA Precision GAP10, 6MM Creedmoor
Barrel: 21" Bartlein 5R 1-7.7"
Scope: 3-12X50 S&B PMII



I don't shoot this rifle up close too much. It has 600 rounds through it. It shot really well at the Icebreaker, out to, and beyond 1000 meters.



Shot from prone with a Harris 6-9.

rost495 has inspired me, I'm going to wade deep into the caverns of my safe to find my service rifle and hopefully lay down and strap up this weekend to find out how bad my eyes have gotten.

By the way I found free NRA target downloads online.

Here is a link to MR-31's

Bison Ballistics MR-31 600 yd reduced target

I think we can all agree that scenarshooter has violated some sort of rule here and needs to be disqualified!!

That's pretty impressive....

Scenar is shooting the AR like its supposed to shoot!

I just have never really run optics on mine, exceptign a 6.8 necked to 6 and a 50 beowulf. Neither has load workup but both shoot well enough for the hunting they are used for.

I'd be trying to get to groups about the size or a hair bigger than scenar with irons, it sure is possible, have done it before, not sure I can again anymore.

Scenar, nice shooting! Never shot a creed, but I hear they have some inherent accuracy in em. Might be true a bit.

Thanks guys!

With irons I would have been lucky to hit the cardboard. Rost, I say your target shot with irons is more impressive than mine.

That rifle is about the funnest thing to shoot at longrange steel. I need to give it more attention.

My load is fairly mild, as I wanted a little less wear and tear on my brass. I believe that load produces 2950fps.

As far as comparing the 6 Creed, to the 6.5 Creed, not a terrible amount of difference....I'm just tooled up more for the 6. I have three rifles chambered for it, and another one on the way..

Very impressive!

My AR10 doesn't do that

They can though. But it used to be fairly well proven that the AR10 versions were pickier than the 15 versions. That may well all be worked out by now, as the early ones came in 308 thats a fairly accurate round to start with. Not like these groups are all becuase of the creedmoore.

Couldn't stand it any longer, so I yanked the Leupold VX-6 1-6 off my 16" Noveske light weight and stuck my 10x super chicken on it. Had some 55 grain NBT's loaded in Lapua brass so I grabbed them too and I made a crude mat to load my bipod on. Figured they are predicting more rain through next Sunday so this is it.
The gun and equipment used.

The range

The results

I still need to work on my shooting but the Noveske will shoot.
(I also adjusted the scope between groups.)

NIce, getting folks to work on their guns and shooting. Its all coming together.

I usually toss targets after I'm done, my two were on the floor in the office, I glanced and thought, that one group of mine wasn't all that bad... took one bad called low shot out of it that I knew was bad when it went off and 9 went into appx .850 Thats more like it.

I might take a run with the AR-10 carbine (as much as one can call a 10 lb rifle a carbine) which has a Rainier/Shilen Ultramatch barrel. I saw some headway on it the last time it was out prior to the Hog Hunt, so we'll see what it might do with some Matchkings. Realistically, though I think it's a 1.5"-2" rifle

There is also a bull barreled Armalite 15T here here that shot very well in the past, so I might just slap a scope on it and let fly.

10 shot groups can almost double the size most folks THINK or PROCLAIM their gun is capable of.

Most can't imagine how hard it was to try to track down 1.5 to 2 inch groups at 300 yards when shooting only 10 shot groups.

In most cases, the shooter is the weak link.

5 shot groups tell me how the gun will shoot, 10 shot groups tell me how I am shooting. Maybe next contest we can shoot multiple 5 shot groups. Maybe this target would work for optics?

mulitple groups will sure tell you your NPA too.

Funny after I got done, I had seen some shots, the recoil would bounce it to the side a hair, thats never good, and when I picked up the brass, most of it was touching each other but there were maybe 6-7 pieces out of that group and thats about how many fliers or bad shots I made in the process too. I had forgotten about how all of that can relate.

I'm used to, or was, to 22 shot groups and so big groups don't bother me. Could still generally win with 2 moa groups at 600 yards.

The factory 55 grain Hornady VMax shot better for me at 100 than any of the match bullets I tried (I guess). What should I be afraid to shoot a 55 grain Vmax at under 200 yards???? The VX-6 1-6 is a great low light pig/deer/whatever getter but not I think designed for precision work. I am still dumping the Aeroprecision mount, NF has a clamp on Ultralight 5 ounce device they want a small fortune for, but I am thinking that over the aeroprecision.