LG Outdoors has primers in stock. Prices start at $249/1000 and just go up from there. DNP

some were $400/1K. And they will sell out I'm afraid.

Contact the Attorney's General office in their state about price gouging. I know the folks on here dont want to turn the law on ammo retailers, but people like this are not your friends. They could be doing their part to end this foolishness, however they choose to take advantage of the same people that have made their business a success.

Plus there not reporting to the IRS LOL

Make a mental note of who they are. When the smoke clears never do business with them again. Tell all your friends about them too.

I saw a keg of varget at a gun shop for $499.99
Primers were $22 per hundred. They said if they didn’t ask that the scalpers put them on line and the guy that was out still wouldn’t have any.
I also heard a bottle of beer is $9 on the Strip in Vegas and mix drinks $14-20 a glass. Breakfast for two $60.
It’s gotta correct itself at some point. But it’s beyond ridiculous now.
Lumber and steel still climbing every day.

One could argue that setting a price higher than anyone will pay is doing thir part to end the nonsense if people stop buying then shelves fill up and manufacturers catch up on back orders

But once those stimulation checks go out it’s gonna all disappear again lol

Maybe they had to pay $400 to get them from the distributor and they're only making like fifty bucks on the deal.

At what price point do you consider it gouging? You could probably consider some people selling them here gougers as well. Where do you draw the line in the sand? Do you call your AG on sellers on 24hc?

They’re gouging prices on Dr Suess books too. Damnation.

I called LG Outdoors customer service and asked why they were asking so much when other companies were asking $59. They didn't have a reason. I told them I wouldn't shop there anymore.

IMHO, anything more than double is gouging.

Went to a sportsman auction and the prices quoted here are pale to what some people were bidding. You could buy inflated priced ammo for less than what an equal amount of primers sold for.

Went to a sportsman auction and the prices quoted here are pale to what some people were bidding. You could buy inflated priced ammo for less than what an equal amount of primers sold for.

Is this a joke? What can the attorney general do about the price of reloading components? No crimes are being committed no matter how high the price of reloading components go.

Texas AG sued Cheaper than dirt and they were forced to refund money

If someone else is asking $59, why are you messing with LG Outdoors?

Perhaps because the $59 place has none in stock?

This Including Midway USA with their 60.00 for a box of 6.5 ammo.

Midway gets their stock in spurts. When they're available (earlier this week), their price is $59.

Possible, but I doubt it. Powder valley has occasionally had primers in stock over the past few weeks, for 50-60 bucks or so a brick. Still high, but not crazy. I doubt if they are losing any money on them at that price.

Exactly my same thought.

Double from when? 1987 or 2019 or what part of 2020? Sorry you have no case.....

It is called supply & demand. Don't like it move elsewhere.

If the price is more than double the current pricing of competitors then I consider it gouging. Your definition may vary and that's fine. Don't tell me how to live my life. I have fought, bled, and seen men die so I and others can live free.

They’re just warming everyone up for the 10% tax on ammo when the price goes back to normal. If there is ever a “normal”.

Prices go down when people stop paying.

16 bore you are right we're the ones driving the prices up by buying everything in sight by some sort of fear. Some people say were gonna get taxed but were paying prices double and triple of what things cost. I'd rather pay the 10% tax it would be cheaper.

That’s the suck of it.

Saw lots of CCI SP primers at Scheels two days ago, $4 per 100.

The reply in this post is the better point of this thread, so I will quote it just to make sure it doesn't get lost in the noise generated by the amplitude of the complaining. It offers a genuine opportunity to classically debate the merits of the general claim of this entire thread, but it will be missed...entirely.

I'm concerned that we would instead, prefer to perpetuate our secret love affair with that ever thorny contradiction, which looks something like this; continue marching to the Big Band sound of capitalism whilst waving a tall banner that says, "Capitalism For Everyone!". As soon as we see a price on any item that generates a knot in our emotional skivvies, rip off them bra's (gotta get it out through a shirt sleeve or you didn't do it right), let down that unkempt mane of 5am hair, drop the banner, and start screeching and demanding the intervention of some governmental authority, of which we usually express varying degrees of disdain based on whether we perceive they are on our side or the enemy, so that things can be, "...set right again...".

We should also hold steadfastly, with white knuckles and whale sweat, to the idea that the implicit power of the word 'no' (meaning you simply refuse to buy that item), should only be construed as; we can't have it (enter pouty face meme).

Being able to differentiate between the reality that a price has created tidal waves in your emotional ocean, and having access to the power of cognitive assessment on whether or not that 'mean ol price' is suitable to your endeavors...or not, are radically different standards that produce radically different responses.

Based on what UPS dropped of from CCI today, the manufacturer is raising prices on primers, there up $70.00 on a case of 10 bricks so $7.00 a brick.

So much for signing up for the "alerts" when they get some...

Makes it worth to pay the $15 hazmat on a brick

So what are the stores are paying wholesale from the distributors? Not gouging if the distributors jacked up their prices too.

I will tell you again because you don't understand supply and demand. Low supply, high demand equal high prices; on anything

And if you listen to your own words, the people charging that exorbitant amount are doing what you say you fought for, living free and charging what they feel they can. it is S&D. Don't like it, move to a socialist country.......

Price from CCI not going through wholesalers, is $37 per brick, up from last year at $30, So this will let you know what kind of price gouging is going on at dealers, Local shop here and PA has cci 400 for $95 a brick, so he's making $60 per brick

What a diick.

I guess you don't like or understand the truth either.

I agree with him, will I sell primers for $45 per brick like I did a few months back, h e l l no, some guys that got them resold them at higher prices, watched it on here, why shouldn't I make that money than someone that's crying about needing primers just to resell them, same goes for 22LR

Some states define price gouging as an increase in price greater than 25% over the past 30 days.

My dad once told me you learn a lot more by keeping your mouth shut, than you while running it.

Looks like you listened, one post in over a year. 😆

I'll add, many, if not all codified laws applicable to price gouging, only becomes enforceable upon the declaration of an emergency by the governor of that state. There is no such thing as a federal law that broadly prohibits price gouging.

I am a strong believer in capitalism. I think supply and demand will always play out if left without intervention. That being said if you are one of the people that have nothing better to do than hang out at the LGS for every shipment, then buy all the primers, powder, even though you don’t reload, and then buy all the ammo for calibers you do not even own just to sell on gun broker you are a complete f$&@&$g d$&k worthless human being. Should it be illegal,NO (although technically it is) I would rather pay my small dealer a premium, they have been higher than the LGS but less than gun broker. If the LGS would raise their prices enough that it wasn’t so lucrative to resell the supply would be better.

That's my philosophy too.

When my fav gun store on the Front Range closed down I started doing business when I'm over there with another LGS that has in the past year has kept fair prices. The other day I was in there and they had received a shipment of H4350. $49.99

I know the store owner and I told him he was taking a short view that may come back to haunt him.........

Yes sir Mr. Sandbilly He has been gone over 30 years now and I will never forget what he told me. I do see a lot of bad moods on here that I would like to comment on, but I keep it shut. Might be different if I could reach out and touch them, but I getting to old for that.

Midway was askig $59 for primers? It seemed to me they were keeping a lid on prices, but didn't see the primers go through.

The Enduron powders and Varget that they had a few minutes ago were $38 a pound, but we should expect a price increase because of increased costs to the manufacturers.

Sniggly your being Smarmy.

Taking advantage of a difficult situation is not capitalism--it's price gouging. Hoarding is in large part responsible for the scarcity of everything that goes bang, but in part it's also the new gun buyers. They aren't necessarily hoarding.

When all the chit settles it's gonna be fun watching the nancies drag their panties out of their twats.
Anyone who's been reloading for any length of time shouldn't have been caught needing to pay $40+ a brick.

Please let me know when you guys start selling ur houses for what u originally bought them for....id like to buy a few...

Older ones, the newer one cost to much to build, I would buy 10 more farms for what I paid back in the early 80's, 160 grand for 386 acres

One mans gouging is another man’s capitalism.

Smarmy? Maybe. Sarcastic as the day is long? Brand me. I'd prefer we be specific, rather than swim in a pool of varying interpretations of price gouging, especially when those interpretations don't conform to the current standard that governs the behavior of men (law)? Take note; I'm not defending the pimp here. I just don't get offended and steer my boat into the rough waters of pure contradiction, when I'm FREE to abstain from dealing with that person. That encounter isn't a catalyst for a sudden switch in my ideology. It doesn't grant me permission to suddenly pole vault from conservative centered ideas, to blatantly hard left caterwauling for ideas that run counter to my conservative center (not accusing you if that needs to be said). No one is slaved to the transaction. No one. The person that enters a difficult situation with an eye on squeezing the most out of the lemon can certainly be considered morally reprehensible, and we tend towards disliking that person quite a bit. But, some kind of compass must apply here, and if that compass spins in circles and refuses land on anything but, "how I feel, when I feel it, and then I'll be fine...", then it's not a compass. It's some kind of politically bi-polar pile of chaos. The best mediator we have to gauge the existence of price gouging is law, not the 'as the wind blows' psuedo-notion that seems to have seized men by the nose ring.

The economic system we know as Capitalism does NOT explicitly exclude taking advantage of a situation. The person that has piss poor credit might get dragged across glass shards (financially) if they need a car, but when they hit that buy here pay here lot, and they hand over cash that amounts to 3 times the value of the car, they leave with a car. It is not a single sided, single benefit endeavor.


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You don't know what you're talking about. Claiming the current market is capitalism at work is absurd. Firearms and ammunition markets are highly manipulated. The current ammo shortage is a symptom of a highly manipulated market. Firearms and ammunition markets suffer at the whim of regulators. Regulators suffer at the whim of politics. Much of the angst in these threads is a reaction to the fact that these markets are being politicized. Any claim that profiteering in the extremes of these markets is just capitalism at work, is utter nonsense.

You've run aground somewhere and missed the entire spirit and point of my reply to Alpine. I don't know how you did it, but you did. I never claimed the current market is, "...capitalism at work..."

Perhaps your point was lost to loquaciousness.

lol......


To The Loquaciously Smarmy Sniggly,

We are all on the 'fire at Rickbin's pleasure, and we all have the privilege of asking any outrageous, gouging, even unethical, price we chose. By the same token the rest of us have the privilege of calling it out for what it is.

Is this a great website or what?.......

Just paid $120 / 1000 at a local store I frequent.
Limit of 1000/ household.
Fair enough in these times .

Since I don’t know what any of these places has to pay to get this stuff, I can’t comment on whether they’re gouging or not. I can only refuse to pay the prices they’re asking.

Pappy,

The cost of manufacturing has increased. As far as components are concerned the people I've talked to said social distancing at the manufacturing facilities has made the process less efficient, plus unprecedented demand has meant the manufacturers have have hired significantly more employees and are running shifts 24/7. And the cost of shipping has increased and manufacturers have had to scramble to find enough shipping (which has slowed down for the same reasons) and are paying more for the shipping.

And, the word is shipping of hazmat materials from overseas has seen a substantial increase in cost to the importers/distributors. Throw in rising costs of commodities and it all adds up to an increase in costs BEFORE retailers start adding a bit of extra to their price, because they can.

I think we can figure on a 30% increase of powders, primers, and bullets just for the "normal" price of components before any gouging takes place.

Ya see!!! Now I gotta change my name! (starts to ponder whether or not 7 syllables will actually fit into the name field on the fire)...

I'm not prone to sesquipedalianism, but I do like my comma's. And I think your comments are a most suitable closing summary.

Totally agree, its not the 30% increase that has folks fired up, Most are happy if they can find what they are looking for at a slightly increased price. The stores selling 1000 primers for $450 is more like a 1000% percent increase. Most should agree that is gouging.

Lotta big words flying around here.

Insert here something about the Special Olympics and winning an argument on the internet

DedNed has me on ignore. LMAO.

And could very well not be selling anything else that week because of inventory shortages. No powder, no brass , no bullets and no firearms. Those primers will have to cover rent,wages and it goes on and on. Had you been prepared you wouldn't give a [bleep].

👍

Besides, sometimes using/reading bodaciously long words is entertaining.............

Oh this dealer is selling, he got guns, ammo, he seems to get what ever he wants, he not really into reloading but he gets primers in,, his shop is full most time

One thing noticed during past "shortages," due to my connections in the industry, is that stores and on-line sellers which paid immediately--instead of asking for the common 90-day delay--had more stuff, much sooner, than other suppliers.

What lessons I didn't learn before the Obama Reign I learned then. I'm in good enough shape to last at least through the next 4 year and beyond.

Here in Colorado and Wyoming the gun shops are only short of components and ammo, seems to be plenty of everything else and they are really pushing the accessories. The small amounts of primers and powders they're receiving ain't going to make the rent no matter what they charge.

Like "the" "we" "and" "I"?

It wasn’t as bad when Obummer was in office for sure.

Yes went to h e l l with covid and sleep Joe and the hoe

At that price I received 40 grand of primers deleiverd from ups today

I simply cannot wrap my head around this sort of logic.

Primers and ammo are a commodity, and prices fluctuate with the market....how people struggle with this is beyond me. I have no issue with how a business prices non-essential goods, primarily because I not only don't have to shop there, but I am not forced to buy at their prices.



Lol, you can't be serious. Are you at all involved in stocks or investing?



What in the hell does this have to do with primer prices??



Based on what, you simply not liking the price?

I can believe all or most of that. Not sure that it adds up to 30%, but whatever. If the new normal is higher, so be it. Lately though, I’ve purchased brass, bullets, and some ammo, including 500 Velociters my son found this week, all current production, and all at normal prices, so your notion doesn’t hold up across the board. I’m well supplied, so I can ride this out as long as it lasts, with no restrictions on my shooting or hunting, and definitely without paying grossly inflated prices, regardless of why they’re high. Eventually, the dust will settle, and then we’ll see where we are price-wise.

and you will whine at the gas prices

The absolute irony and hypocrisy is that Dinny, who never seems to miss an opportunity to ridicule any for sale thread he deems as "gouging", certainly doesn't seem to mind benefitting financially from the panic...8lb jugs of powder for $300, $40 boxes of .224 cal bullets, and $50 boxes of 7mm Nosler BT's.

It baffles me that anyone, especially someone currently making a substantial profit selling reloading stuff well over their own cost, would have the nerve to complain about the way anyone else prices their items.

You are such a liar. You keep posting of your philanthropic donations to young shooters and helping everyone out with your abundance of goods and generosity, and now you claim you spent $1,600,000.00 on primers.

Then you want to turn people into the IRS for not claiming income.




Then you claim you will make the gouging profit, then come here to claim the high ground of morality. What a piece of $hit.

Scarcity is a bitch!

It’s funny how pajama wearing gramps stumbles into Walmart and is smart enough to triple his money.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get.

What about those that made bank on GameStock? “Woohoo sticking it to the man!”

The government should step in and regulate the prices of ammo! Maybe subsidize it so it’s fair for everyone. Yeah, that’s the ticket!!

Karen called, she wants more whine.

1.6 mill on primers LOL, I only help my friends out, these primers are not offered up for sale here, did that a few months back and people like you cried that you were caught with your head up your azz and then turned around and sold what I sold you for a hugh profit, I bet if I looked back to were I sold 50 bricks of CCI 400 for $45.00 you were one that was wanting some, and you didn't get any 😫😫😫 that is why d i c k h e a d your on ignore, had to see what your talking out of you a s s about agian, and I know for a fact your the one that stopped me giving away 22lr on here to youth clubs when Obama was in office, you were mad because you didn't want to follow the rules on entering your club, well you HitnRun can GFY

I’d be happy to walk into Sportsman’s Warehouse and pay $10 for 100 primers.

There’s a lot of great guys on here … but there’s a few that have decided if they price gouge its ok but if you price gouge then its bs.

I agree with this

You posted that you got 40,000 primers at $400.00/1,000 which is 1.6 million$.

I never contacted you for a thing. You continue to run your mouth reckless with your heckling of anyone that sells anything you don’t approve of the pricing.

I wouldn’t contact you with anything but a baseball bat.

Show me were I posted that smart a s s, your not very good at match are you

Think I said if I sold the primer I got for 400 a brick I would have 40 grand in primers, was that to hard for you to understand, guess so. And if I went back 7 or 8 years and looked it up to when I was giving 22 ammo to youth groups I would bet your the piss ant that was shooting your damn big mouth off

Guys, can we stop the whining and attacks.

If you want to buy the, then do. If you don't, don't.

Nobody gives a damn about your opinion.

Go outside and yell at the moon ---- just as effective.

This has actually been entertaining. Seems like the usual classifieds cowboys are jealous and just trying to reduce their competition. Why else would you highlight or dispute my success at losing 15%?

Yes, you read that right, a 15% loss. I would have broke even but I made a mistake on the 7mm 140gr NBTs. I bought them in 100ct boxes and sold the first 19 boxes for $30ea. Then I was informed by someone that I was selling them too cheap. I raised the price to $50/100 after seeing Midway's price was $57/100.

Please help me wrap my mind around this "substantial profit" you speak of. You're doing just exactly what you and others advise against. You're assuming you know what someone paid. I bought almost all my bulk components during the Obama times and paid a premium for them.

I wanted to ensure I had plenty of ammo to maintain my shooting skills. I had learned the year before that my ability to engage enemy targets beyond 300m was below average. Medics don't get alot of range time so I made arrangements to shoot MY components during MY off time with MY rifles. I shot in just about every shooting competition I could get into. This investment paid off and I provided much more effective fire a few years later when I was deployed to Afghanistan. Unfortunately the blows to my head during that deployment stacked up with previous concussions and I couldn't maintain a competitive edge after I returned home. I have moved my stuff 3 more times since then and now that retirement is approved I no longer see the need to practice that much or move it again. If the powder doesn't sell, I'll fertilize the yard. If the bullets don't sell, I'll dump them in the swamp behind my house.

And now you know the rest of the story.

Thanks, Dinny

Hey dinny the ginny, I got 6 500 count boxes of Sierra 69gr matchkings 1380c from powder valley for $117.00, ill sell them to you for $140 plus $8.70 shipping then you can resell on here for your bargain price of $178 plus shipping. We got a deal, ill even ship them for you

I can't tell you how pleased I was to read you had spent $720 just so you could list the same bullets I had for less. That right there was brilliant!

That don't make any sense at all, let's see i bought them for $117, your selling them for $178, hmmmmmm

Had to google this:
In modern times, most combat medics carry a personal weapon, to be used to protect themselves and the wounded or sick in their care. ... When and if they use their arms offensively, they then sacrifice their protection under the Geneva Conventions.

How many times did you "ENGAGE" out to the above 300 yards with your sidearm then?

Tell us more about your profound career as a medic who bled for his brother man that they would be free to buy and sell on the Campfire (see another dumbass remark by Dinny in another thread).

Gemby,
Here is Dinny's original post selling the Sierra 69grn SMK's, notice the post was edited, REASON: "price adjustments"
The original price was $228.00 plus $15.00 for the ride.



WTS: Sierra 22cal Target Bullets #15737317 02/02/21
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500ct Sierra 69gr SMK # 1380C $178 plus $15 for the ride - 3 boxes available

500ct Sierra 80gr SMK # 9390 $200 plus $15 for the ride - 5 boxes available

PAYPAL ONLY - no checks, farm animals, and especially no children!

Thanks, Dinny

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Medics bury their mistakes..

PS: Dinny, you are not the only one who served...............................but then you did take that "HYPOCRITE" oath, right?

BAM NAILED THAT SUCKER

That applies to others not him

In that case.............I can imagine.............they will be "TITS-UP" and out of business by this time next week........................................

Not sure how the Army works but our corpsman would usually carry an M4

1st deployment I had a M4, send I had a M9, third I had both. I practiced preventative medicine and added to fire superiority which is the best medicine on the battlefield.

I`m selling primers a dollar a copy.Just what it cost me.

IN the army M4 and an issued side arm

Actually who gives a flying fouck about any of this.............Pissin & moanin...........
I just read it for the entertainment factor...LOL

[quote=Dinny] I had learned the year before that my ability to engage enemy targets beyond 300m was below average.



I wanted to ensure I had plenty of ammo to maintain my shooting skills. I had learned the year before that my ability to engage enemy targets beyond 300m was below average. Medics don't get alot of range time so I made arrangements to shoot MY components during MY off time with MY rifles. I shot in just about every shooting competition I could get into. This investment paid off and I provided much more effective fire a few years later when I was deployed to Afghanistan. Unfortunately the blows to my head during that deployment stacked up with previous concussions and I couldn't maintain a competitive edge after I returned home. I have moved my stuff 3 more times since then and now that retirement is approved I no longer see the need to practice that much or move it again. If the powder doesn't sell, I'll fertilize the yard. If the bullets don't sell, I'll dump them in the swamp behind my house.

And now you know the rest of the story.

Thanks, Dinny


[quote=Dinny] 1st deployment I had a M4, send I had a M9, third I had both. I practiced preventative medicine and added to fire superiority which is the best medicine on the battlefield.



[quote=Dinny] If the price is more than double the current pricing of competitors then I consider it gouging. Your definition may vary and that's fine. Don't tell me how to live my life. I have fought, bled, and seen men die so I and others can live free.



[quote=Dinny] the powder doesn't sell, I'll fertilize the yard. If the bullets don't sell, I'll dump them in the swamp behind my house. ( MY FAVORITE PART), along with something about paving his driveway with spent 22LR brass!!!!!!!!!








Wondering, with all the buying and selling, oh yes and giving away after gut shooting your fellow Fire Members how the hell you had time to be a Soldier for 26 years


DR. DINNY ...................WONDERING, WHEN can we expect the MOVIE to be released.........................surely they will make a movie!!

This is the # 1 Reason I WILL NOT support LGS's PRICE Gouging --A small but efficient local shop was owned by the same owner for 30 + years and he bought his primers,powder off of the same Dist as all others.

For years he sold ALL of his IMR powders @ 25 a lb even dist were that price or a little higher he sold it to another local who kept it at 25 and finally raised it to 30. a pound always had primers @ 3-4 per hundred with a reasonable limit. Unfortunately the 2nd owner just passed away within the last month.
I shoot 5 rimfire calibers and load for more than a dozen center fires

The other shops were and still are Gouging with double sometimes triple retail prices
I like a lot others have went through these shortages and @ 73 I have access to enough ammo (Rimfires ) primers ,powder and bullets to last a 3 lifetimes as when the shortages relaxed I bought MORE that I needed-call me a hoarder DON'T care

Jim

None of this makes any sense.

You want me to believe that you bought all these components for a "premium" during the Obama years, only to sit on them 4-6+ years and then suddenly decide to sell at a 15% loss during the greatest panic buy in the history of the country??

I couldn't care less how much you paid for any of it, or how much you sell it for....its just comically hypocritical that you complain about the prices of others when you are doing the exact same thing. You may get some altruistic/warm fuzzy feeling because you're not charging quite as much, but you are no different than any of them...actually, you're worse.

He is trying to make up for it by giving stuff away now, he thinks we will forget his past

Pretty sure U nailed it. Going from high to free after he was questioned in his own thread.

Saving my stash for a deployed person

I would have to check but Sportsmans Warehouse was still selling bricks for $23 about 6 weeks ago, maybe a little more. Price hadnt changed in over a year.

Just checked the website... still that price. I hope to get some in the morning. Going to have to stand in line. They had them last weekend but I was snowmobiling.