Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
A friend of mine died three days after his first WUFLU shot from a blood clot to the brain.Can the WUFLU shot prevent you from getting COVID like the Polio shot prevents you from getting Polio?They are giving folks who have had the WUFLU shots for it after they are recovered.Why?People getting shots for the WUFLU after they have recovered are croaking.Why?The FDA has not approved any of these shots except as an EMERGENCY ORDER.Why?Why does Sweden,Hungry and Poland that did not shut their Countries down and go Ape chit for all the shots and COVID recommendations suffer little to no COVID.Same for South Dakota,Florida etc.?Why did and does Dr Fauci continuously lie about his part in making an un controllable disease?I really don`t expect any honest answers.
"Science Education" it don't take much education to see this vaccine and all the other crap that goes with it is a fraud.It's sad to see how many americans are believing this lie.
Afaic, this is proof the CDC lied to us. I expect we will find Trumps recommended Hydrochloroquine tx will cure the flu also. These are CDC numbers, Doc.
Two friends became violently ill after the first Pfizer shot. One couldnt hold food down for 4-5 days.
and the pro vaccine folks, especially those making the stuff, are getting even richer. Billions of dollars richer, for a vaccine that is not really a vaccine, is of questionable efficacy, and is not even FDA approved.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
America has a never ending supply of gullible idiots...It's our biggest cash crop.
Sorry, Doc, but do you really believe there are less than 12 “pro-vaxers” who gotten FILTHY rich by spreading their “propaganda?” The whole “pandemic” is the biggest money grab this world has EVER witnessed...
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
Right, that must be it. How many articles has the concerned doc posted warning us of those who've gotten filthy rich peddling covid? Wonder how much doc has made treating covid patients himself?
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
You think? We shut down the entire world over a condition 99.7% people survive IF they catch it. I can’t imagine any commodified fear and ignorance taking part in that reasoning. Lol
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
America has a never ending supply of gullible idiots...It's our biggest cash crop.
As proved by commies who like cheap illegal drugs and trafficked children and open borders like you.
You lie. Your buds biggest cash crop is taxes and foreign aid kickbacks and CCP and Soros payoffs.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
You think? We shut down the entire world over a condition 99.7% people survive IF they catch it. I can’t imagine any commodified fear and ignorance taking part in that reasoning. Lol
Well, it kills a lot higher percentage of people if you do as Fauci says and make them stay home until they turn blue, instead of treating early with Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin or budesonide or if you only count the old people that get it..
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However, if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
Have you been vaccinated for COVID?
Yep. My wife and I have a train trip and my buddies a hunting trip to Canada planned this year and I want to go and know there is zero chance without the vaccine. I had the Phizer shots with zero side affects.
I only read legitimate vaccine skeptics, none of whom were covered by the study cited in the OP’s link.
I quote: “ Per the research, the 'disinformation dozen' behind almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content shared in the study window includes Joseph Mercola, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Ty and Charlene Bollinger, Sherri Tenpenny, Rizza Islam, Rashid Buttar, Erin Elizabeth, Sayer Ji, Kelly Brogan, Christiane Northrup, Ben Tapper, and Kevin Jenkins.”
With the exception of Robert F. Kennedy, I’ve never heard of these people.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
Have you been vaccinated for COVID?
Yep. My wife and I have a train trip and my buddies a hunting trip to Canada planned this year and I want to go and know there is zero chance without the vaccine. I had the Phizer shots with zero side affects.
I only read legitimate vaccine skeptics, none of whom were covered by the study cited in the OP’s link.
I quote: “ Per the research, the 'disinformation dozen' behind almost two-thirds of anti-vaccine content shared in the study window includes Joseph Mercola, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Ty and Charlene Bollinger, Sherri Tenpenny, Rizza Islam, Rashid Buttar, Erin Elizabeth, Sayer Ji, Kelly Brogan, Christiane Northrup, Ben Tapper, and Kevin Jenkins.”
With the exception of Robert F. Kennedy, I’ve never heard of these people.
If you're gonna stop being a COVBITCH I think you should take the time and apologize to Flave.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
You think? We shut down the entire world over a condition 99.7% people survive IF they catch it. I can’t imagine any commodified fear and ignorance taking part in that reasoning. Lol
Well, it kills a lot higher percentage of people if you do as Fauci says and make them stay home until they turn blue, instead of treating early with Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin or budesonide or if you only count the old people that get it..
Take it however you wish.
I'm only slightly more worried about the vaccine itself than I am the 'Vid. Which is to say, I don't give a fugg about either.
and the pro vaccine folks, especially those making the stuff, are getting even richer. Billions of dollars richer, for a vaccine that is not really a vaccine, is of questionable efficacy, and is not even FDA approved.
^^^^^^ This. I will most definitely pass on it and take my chances.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
Have you been vaccinated for COVID?
Yep. My wife and I have a train trip and my buddies a hunting trip to Canada planned this year and I want to go and know there is zero chance without the vaccine. I had the Phizer shots with zero side affects.
Who do you think has made more money, covid peddlers or vaccine skeptics?
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
Have you been vaccinated for COVID?
Yep. My wife and I have a train trip and my buddies a hunting trip to Canada planned this year and I want to go and know there is zero chance without the vaccine. I had the Phizer shots with zero side affects.
Who do you think has made more money, covid peddlers or vaccine skeptics?
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
There you went and did it! After 17,000+ posts where you were one of the most respected members here who everyone looked to for advice, you've ruined by one post. All the naysayers who get their information from no-name websites run out of basements, hate you now!
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
There you went and did it! After 17,000+ posts where you were one of the most respected members here who everyone looked to for advice, you've ruined by one post. All the naysayers who get their information from no-name websites run out of basements, hate you now!
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people,like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum.I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions
Wonder how many would agree with this version?
How exactly are 12 people making millions in the anti vax world?
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
I got halfway through the article Doc linked and my bullshit meter was starting to redline. The author claims they are hawking the disinformation via, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Instagram. They only venue on that list I visit is You Tube and I can tell you they heavily censor anything regarding covid and from what I hear so do the other social media types.
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
I got halfway through the article Doc linked and my bullshit meter was starting to redline. The author claims they are hawking the disinformation via, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Instagram. They only venue on that list I visit is You Tube and I can tell you they heavily censor anything regarding covid and from what I hear so do the other social media types.
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
Amazing that on a board that owes its existence to the pursuit of hobbies with instruments that the Neo Puritans consider unsafe and dangerous, that so many would tie themselves in knots arguing that others should be forced to affirmatively act because they feel that not doing so is unsafe and dangerous:
I got halfway through the article Doc linked and my bullshit meter was starting to redline. The author claims they are hawking the disinformation via, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Instagram. They only venue on that list I visit is You Tube and I can tell you they heavily censor anything regarding covid and from what I hear so do the other social media types.
Good observation.
The "anti-vaxxers" are lying, according to: "the not-for-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) and Anti-Vax Watch, an organization that monitors the anti-vaccine industry."
Golly, not-for-profit and all.
But if they was smart enough ta tell me what ta believe, shouldn't they be able ta make a profit?
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
Glad you’re healthy !
Why take the vaccine ? You shouldn’t. But, if you wanted too, that’s your decision.
Why does it matter, if you do, or don’t ?....If you do, you’re showing the left that you’re easily manipulated into believing their BS and will likely do whatever they decide is best practices on anything in the future. Basically, you’re a sheep.
If you don’t take it, you recognize the manipulation by those both in power and those who are spraying shît across all the social media site to scare, condemn and demonize those who refuse to believe their lies.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
America has a never ending supply of gullible idiots...It's our biggest cash crop.
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
So, a "pandemic" that has killed roughly 3 out of every 7800 people is reason to go into a worldwide panic and bring the economy of the world to a standstill and stay safe and stay home. That is if you even believe your figure of 3,429,383 which is likely a lie.
Well Gee whizz, I’m not a phugin physicist either,... but I’ll put my money on the apple hitting the ground every time it comes loose from the tree.... nome sain?
Nobody has come up with an explanation of how the anti-vaccine activists are making any money off of their opposition to CV-19 "vaccine". I want to get in on that. A crusade I could believe in and get rich with is a win win if I ever heard of one.
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Folks argument on that is that masks are the reason for no flu,... all right then let’s chew that cookie... if masks don’t work for Covid then why the hell are we supposed to be wearing them?
Another thread that deflects the blame for all of this away from those that benefit the most. Let's see....democrat party in general, they are in the White House because of this virus, China is now back on top of the world economy after Trump successfully knocked them off. The biden family since they can now extort and receive money from China and other American hating countries.
Who is coming out on the short end of the stick. Anyone that values what our country was founded on and for. Private businesses all over our nation since it's now easier to just stay home and get that government check. biden and company plans to keep that gravy train going. We that voted and support Trump, since the election was stolen.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
Afaic, this is proof the CDC lied to us. I expect we will find Trumps recommended Hydrochloroquine tx will cure the flu also. These are CDC numbers, Doc.
Two friends became violently ill after the first Pfizer shot. One couldnt hold food down for 4-5 days.
I just got the first round of Pfizer two hours ago. I hope I make out better
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Folks argument on that is that masks are the reason for no flu,... all right then let’s chew that cookie... if masks don’t work for Covid then why the hell are we supposed to be wearing them?
If only the mask stopped the "covid" as well as it stops the flu.... pandemic fixed.... lmao.... liberal logic is so fun... it requires no thinking at all...
Afaic, this is proof the CDC lied to us. I expect we will find Trumps recommended Hydrochloroquine tx will cure the flu also. These are CDC numbers, Doc.
Two friends became violently ill after the first Pfizer shot. One couldnt hold food down for 4-5 days.
I just got the first round of Pfizer two hours ago. I hope I make out better
That schit has Mad cow in it..... good luck once your brain turns into styrofoam... it will make you a good Democrat though....
Afaic, this is proof the CDC lied to us. I expect we will find Trumps recommended Hydrochloroquine tx will cure the flu also. These are CDC numbers, Doc.
Two friends became violently ill after the first Pfizer shot. One couldnt hold food down for 4-5 days.
I just got the first round of Pfizer two hours ago. I hope I make out better
That schit has Mad cow in it..... good luck once your brain turns into styrofoam... it will make you a good Democrat though....
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Don't forget to get your booster shot,,,,,,laffin at the scardycats
Big Bad Woke!
The irony of the "woke" crowd is , well special..... He calls us scared .... lmao.... another closet liberal thinker.... it is a mental disorder.... he will fit in fine in the brave new world of woketards...
I had the virus last September. No way I'm getting vaccinated for it any time soon. Knowing what I know, I would probably get vaccinated if I hadn't had it. But there's no way to know what you don't know. I get it. Even harder to know who to trust. Take it for what it's worth. I trust Docrocket.
I had the virus last September. No way I'm getting vaccinated for it any time soon. Knowing what I know, I would probably get vaccinated if I hadn't had it. But there's no way to know what you don't know. I get it. Even harder to know who to trust. Take it for what it's worth. I trust Docrocket.
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Menses Man here to tell us all about his dead “brothers.”
I trust and respect his knowledge as well,, having just kinda gotten over The Wuflu (still some trouble) I don't blame anyone for getting the jab. I really wish we knew more about it long term.
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Menses Man here to tell us all about his dead “brothers.”
LOL
That MM879 is a special kind of "Menses" Ded is dead..... well we all end up dead... duh..... but hey lets destroy the economy and manipulate the election..... MM879 won't notice..... fuggin retard... at least his 300lb diabetic azz will live a week longer.....
I’ve got no respect for fat people. Being fat is a choice. Just like being a thief, a liar, or any other character flaw. It also happens to be the number one risk factor for Covid. So now, low character people want us to change our entire society so they can feel a bit safer.
I’ve got no respect for fat people. Being fat is a choice. Just like being a thief, a liar, or any other character flaw. It also happens to be the number one risk factor for Covid. So now, low character people want us to change our entire society so they can feel a bit safer.
I’ve got no respect for fat people. Being fat is a choice. Just like being a thief, a liar, or any other character flaw. It also happens to be the number one risk factor for Covid. So now, low character people want us to change our entire society so they can feel a bit safer.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
There you went and did it! After 17,000+ posts where you were one of the most respected members here who everyone looked to for advice, you've ruined by one post. All the naysayers who get their information from no-name websites run out of basements, hate you now!
Truth is, even great, life saving Drs doing Gods work are not perfect, as is God.
Lol...f'k a bunch of rich doctor-lawyer types. Why would anyone in their right mind believe them about anything? Especially when you have carpenters and cops (kinda) here that know it all.
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Menses Man here to tell us all about his dead “brothers.”
LOL
That MM879 is a special kind of "Menses" Ded is dead..... well we all end up dead... duh..... but hey lets destroy the economy and manipulate the election..... MM879 won't notice..... fuggin retard... at least his 300lb diabetic azz will live a week longer.....
Your almost as good as liar as Defag. You have no idea of my physical condition. Your in good company.
Lol...f'k a bunch of rich doctor-lawyer types. Why would anyone in their right mind believe them about anything? Especially when you have carpenters and cops (kinda) here that know it all.
Maybe if the wizards of smart had a better track record we would listen....... maybe the professional's should challenge the bureaucrat's a little ..... justsayin.... but then the grant money may dry up?
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Menses Man here to tell us all about his dead “brothers.”
LOL
That MM879 is a special kind of "Menses" Ded is dead..... well we all end up dead... duh..... but hey lets destroy the economy and manipulate the election..... MM879 won't notice..... fuggin retard... at least his 300lb diabetic azz will live a week longer.....
Your almost as good as liar as Defag. You have no idea of my physical condition. Your in good company.
You stupid son of a bitch... I have challenged you many times to post pic's, info etc... as to who you are... you leave me with no choice but assume
Don't forget to get your booster shot,,,,,,laffin at the scardycats
Big Bad Woke!
The irony of the "woke" crowd is , well special..... He calls us scared .... lmao.... another closet liberal thinker.... it is a mental disorder.... he will fit in fine in the brave new world of woketards...
The anti-vaxer's make total sense if you can figure out a way to ignore the 3,429,383 deaths world wide.
The flu kills 2,947,050 every year worldwide....... "covid" cured the flu, very few reported flu deaths since "covid" arrived. Hmmmm maybe the fact that if it's coded as "covid" they get an infusion of money..... if you had an ounce of critical thinking skills you would figure this out.
You are a very good "useful idiot" though and you have that going for you......
Ded is ded.
What about fake relatives who died of covid. Are they fake ded or real ded?
Menses Man here to tell us all about his dead “brothers.”
LOL
That MM879 is a special kind of "Menses" Ded is dead..... well we all end up dead... duh..... but hey lets destroy the economy and manipulate the election..... MM879 won't notice..... fuggin retard... at least his 300lb diabetic azz will live a week longer.....
Your almost as good as liar as Defag. You have no idea of my physical condition. Your in good company.
You stupid son of a bitch... I have challenged you many times to post pic's, info etc... as to who you are... you leave me with no choice but assume
You are one dumb fuqker. What kind of challange is that. I will not post information about a family member for the likes of you. His children doesn't need to deal with an azz like you.
Yes they did screw it up right from the beginning when they shut down the country.
They should have had folks with health problems to take measures to protect themselves.
Because of the many half truths and out right lies that have been presented just how do they think folks that might have an idea about themselves believe anything that is said.
Don't forget to get your booster shot,,,,,,laffin at the scardycats
Big Bad Woke!
The irony of the "woke" crowd is , well special..... He calls us scared .... lmao.... another closet liberal thinker.... it is a mental disorder.... he will fit in fine in the brave new world of woketards...
Well if what you believe is true.... my end is near... and why do you care?
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in biology and think that for most people over 60, it makes sense to get vaccinated. However, the study that Doc refers to was done by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is clearly a left wing group, so I would be skeptical of the articles they publish. I will say that there are many media campaigns that are run by a very small group of people running bots. So it's not unlikely that something like what is described in the article could occur, but I would want to see more evidence before accepting the conclusions they draw.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in biology and think that for most people over 60, it makes sense to get vaccinated. However, the study that Doc refers to was done by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is clearly a left wing group, so I would be skeptical of the articles they publish. I will say that there are many media campaigns that are run by a very small group of people running bots. So it's not unlikely that something like what is described in the article could occur, but I would want to see more evidence before accepting the conclusions they draw.
If I were a website with "science" in my name, and my article was about disinformation, I'd give specific examples of the disinformation and provide cites for why it is wrong. That was conspicuously absent from the article.
Lol...f'k a bunch of rich doctor-lawyer types. Why would anyone in their right mind believe them about anything? Especially when you have carpenters and cops (kinda) here that know it all.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in biology and think that for most people over 60, it makes sense to get vaccinated. However, the study that Doc refers to was done by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is clearly a left wing group, so I would be skeptical of the articles they publish. I will say that there are many media campaigns that are run by a very small group of people running bots. So it's not unlikely that something like what is described in the article could occur, but I would want to see more evidence before accepting the conclusions they draw.
If I were a website with "science" in my name, and my article was about disinformation, I'd give specific examples of the disinformation and provide cites for why it is wrong. That was conspicuously absent from the article.
You must have read a different article. "That figure is based on an analysis of over 812,000 posts extracted from Facebook and Twitter between 1 February and 16 March 2021" The article is a data reduction. Specific examples would dilute the intent of the argument.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
Thanks for affirming how stupid you are.
I still have a long way to go to match you. In fact, with your head start, I never will.
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
Interesting that Doc would start a topic of discussion and not attend the discussion. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well.
There's a big difference between making a good profit on a product you make that helps people and making money by doing nothing but spread disinformation. I wouldn't be surprised if many here don't own stock in Big Pharma through the mutual funds in their IRAs/401Ks. They won't complain when their share prices go up.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
Thanks for affirming how stupid you are.
I still have a long way to go to match you. In fact, with your head start, I never will.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
Thanks for affirming how stupid you are.
I still have a long way to go to match you. In fact, with your head start, I never will.
You live in Michigan.
You’re anti-Trump.
You believe COVID is a concern.
I’d say that makes you as dumb as a hammer. LOL
I see that your intellect hasn't progressed since junior high.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in biology and think that for most people over 60, it makes sense to get vaccinated. However, the study that Doc refers to was done by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is clearly a left wing group, so I would be skeptical of the articles they publish. I will say that there are many media campaigns that are run by a very small group of people running bots. So it's not unlikely that something like what is described in the article could occur, but I would want to see more evidence before accepting the conclusions they draw.
If I were a website with "science" in my name, and my article was about disinformation, I'd give specific examples of the disinformation and provide cites for why it is wrong. That was conspicuously absent from the article.
You must have read a different article. "That figure is based on an analysis of over 812,000 posts extracted from Facebook and Twitter between 1 February and 16 March 2021" The article is a data reduction. Specific examples would dilute the intent of the argument.
You are saying supporting facts would dilute the intent? That is an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful example of liberal logic. The quote you provided has absolutely zero to do with my post.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in biology and think that for most people over 60, it makes sense to get vaccinated. However, the study that Doc refers to was done by the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which is clearly a left wing group, so I would be skeptical of the articles they publish. I will say that there are many media campaigns that are run by a very small group of people running bots. So it's not unlikely that something like what is described in the article could occur, but I would want to see more evidence before accepting the conclusions they draw.
If I were a website with "science" in my name, and my article was about disinformation, I'd give specific examples of the disinformation and provide cites for why it is wrong. That was conspicuously absent from the article.
You must have read a different article. "That figure is based on an analysis of over 812,000 posts extracted from Facebook and Twitter between 1 February and 16 March 2021" The article is a data reduction. Specific examples would dilute the intent of the argument.
You are saying supporting facts would dilute the intent? That is an absolutely breathtakingly beautiful example of liberal logic. The quote you provided has absolutely zero to do with my post.
So, are you going to take on 812,000 arguments? Think
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
Interesting that Doc would start a topic of discussion and not attend the discussion. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well.
There's a big difference between making a good profit on a product you make that helps people and making money by doing nothing but spread disinformation. I wouldn't be surprised if many here don't own stock in Big Pharma through the mutual funds in their IRAs/401Ks. They won't complain when their share prices go up.
Why did you quote my post? Best I can tell your post has nothing to do with Doc starting a discussion and not sticking around to have a discussion. Nor does it answer either of the two questions tin the post I quoted.
Lol...f'k a bunch of rich doctor-lawyer types. Why would anyone in their right mind believe them about anything? Especially when you have carpenters and cops (kinda) here that know it all.
Nobody knows more than you, ltpowell.
Of course they do. None of us knows as much as all of us. But even you have something to contribute.
"According to our recent report, anti-vaccine activists on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram and Twitter reach more than 59 million followers, making these the largest and most important social media platforms for anti-vaxxers."
Not being a user of 3 out of 4 of these platforms, a couple thoughts: 1) sad that these are where some (many?) people get their news 2) I’m skeptical of any group that pushes for “ deplatforming” based on disagreement of view 3) are these not the same sites that many pro-covid vaxxers use to promote their own message? 4) isn’t this article merely pro-vax propaganda?
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in
So, are you going to take on 812,000 arguments? Think[/quote]
Let me help you with your struggles Sparky. They are saying that they analyzed 812,000 posts that contained disinformation. I know this comes as a surprise to liberals, but saying something is wrong doesn't make it so. You'd think, in order to bolster their argument that they would give an example or two of what some of the disinformation was posted and support their claim that it is wrong with citations. That'ts what scientists are supposed to do. On top of that, if you are urging the platforms to strike the content and block the users, then from a moral standpoint, it would seem you'd want to support your claim that the content was wrong/incorrect/misinformation.
Don't forget to get your booster shot,,,,,,laffin at the scardycats
Big Bad Woke!
The irony of the "woke" crowd is , well special..... He calls us scared .... lmao.... another closet liberal thinker.... it is a mental disorder.... he will fit in fine in the brave new world of woketards...
Big Bad Woke needed his passport to get into Costco.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in
So, are you going to take on 812,000 arguments? Think
Let me help you with your struggles Sparky. They are saying that they analyzed 812,000 posts that contained disinformation. I know this comes as a surprise to liberals, but saying something is wrong doesn't make it so. You'd think, in order to bolster their argument that they would give an example or two of what some of the disinformation was posted and support their claim that it is wrong with citations. That'ts what scientists are supposed to do. On top of that, if you are urging the platforms to strike the content and block the users, then from a moral standpoint, it would seem you'd want to support your claim that the content was wrong/incorrect/misinformation.
I know those concepts seem foreign to you. [/quote]
The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in
So, are you going to take on 812,000 arguments? Think
Let me help you with your struggles Sparky. They are saying that they analyzed 812,000 posts that contained disinformation. I know this comes as a surprise to liberals, but saying something is wrong doesn't make it so. You'd think, in order to bolster their argument that they would give an example or two of what some of the disinformation was posted and support their claim that it is wrong with citations. That'ts what scientists are supposed to do. On top of that, if you are urging the platforms to strike the content and block the users, then from a moral standpoint, it would seem you'd want to support your claim that the content was wrong/incorrect/misinformation.
I know those concepts seem foreign to you.
The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie. [/quote]
Are your fake alive relatives vaccinated yet? Or are we going to hear about their fake deaths next?
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
Interesting that Doc would start a topic of discussion and not attend the discussion. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well.
Sorry, fellas, I put that post up and then got sidetracked by a few pieces of Real Life, and had to step away for a bit. Looks like the usual suspects have jumped on with a will in my absence, no surprises there!
My short answer to your question, Raeford, is that I don’t think a person who’s had a documented case of COVID pneumonitis (or the bronchitis form, or possibly even the GI symptoms, although I’m a lot less sure of this last one) “needs” a vaccine at this time. Will they “need” one in a year? I dunno.
My reading of the actual science of this, as opposed to the rumor-repetitions that pass for information on most social media platforms including this one, is that a real infection is going to do a lot more than just trigger antibody production. Most important here is activation of cellular/T-cell immunity, which is a major component of your immune systems’s ability to recognize and fight off viral pathogens. Vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna aren’t expected to stimulate much of a cellular immunity at all, but that may prove out differently as we observe the effects over time. A lot of my expert colleagues think that those of us who were significantly exposed but didn’t get sick may have had robust antibody libraries on hand from other coronavirus infections, but also probably robust T-cell defenses.
This may be one of the few benefits of working ER medicine... we get exposed to every viral plague that runs through our communities, so we tend to not get sick very often. I was exposed to several very sick COVID cases early in the epidemic, in very high exposure environments... intubating them at close quarters, breathing their germs right in my face... and this was before we knew to put on spacesuits to protect ourselves. By rights I should have been one of the first infected, but I didn’t get so much as a sniffle.
I expect most folks who truly had COVID, as opposed to a sniffle and a positive lab test ( I have been as skeptical of the positive lab test results as many of you here, btw), will do fine for at least a year without a vaccine.
With all due respect Doc, that's some happy horse shixt.
I knew I could count on ya to jump right on this one, ee.
Sadly, I think the data mining is quite likely true. The named malefactors in the article are dry well known for playing fast and loose with facts, and the ones I recognize are affiliated with some very profitable “non-profit” organizations.
I'm not against Covid vaccines and got the Moderna version with no issues. I have a graduate degree in
So, are you going to take on 812,000 arguments? Think
Let me help you with your struggles Sparky. They are saying that they analyzed 812,000 posts that contained disinformation. I know this comes as a surprise to liberals, but saying something is wrong doesn't make it so. You'd think, in order to bolster their argument that they would give an example or two of what some of the disinformation was posted and support their claim that it is wrong with citations. That'ts what scientists are supposed to do. On top of that, if you are urging the platforms to strike the content and block the users, then from a moral standpoint, it would seem you'd want to support your claim that the content was wrong/incorrect/misinformation.
I know those concepts seem foreign to you.
The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie.
Are your fake alive relatives vaccinated yet? Or are we going to hear about their fake deaths next? [/quote] When a liar quotes a lie, it doesn't make it true. It makes it lie squared.
Never heard of ScienceAlert till just now. Doc, are you vouching for their content?
I too appreciate your insight, but this article reads like a partisan hit piece.
And I'd like to know how the anti-vaxxer's are getting rich off it exactly?
For the record, I'm still unsure what side I'm on, but I do have a general distrust of unknown media sources.
No vouching here, amigo. Just passing on some info. The second organization named in the article, Antivax Watch, has been around for a while. They are an activist group as well, so you have to take their stuff with a healthy squint in your eye, but what I have read from them in the past has been sound.
The getting rich part is easy. Just copy the PETA model. They start a tax-exempt nonprofit, they pump out a lot of misinformation that attracts like-minded people, then they hit those folks with repeated fundraising efforts.
The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie.
I'll go along with the 812,000 posts they claim contained disinformation coming from the same 12 sources. It was obvious to anyone who can read at a 6th grade level that I wasn't challenging that.
How do you know it was disinformation from the "science" websites article? You don't. All you know is that the left leaning organization that analyzed who was behind what they call misinformation labeled it misinformation.
It's not asking too much of a science website to add a little science to the discussion by demonstrating how any one or two of those posts were wrong.
Never heard of ScienceAlert till just now. Doc, are you vouching for their content?
I too appreciate your insight, but this article reads like a partisan hit piece.
And I'd like to know how the anti-vaxxer's are getting rich off it exactly?
For the record, I'm still unsure what side I'm on, but I do have a general distrust of unknown media sources.
No vouching here, amigo. Just passing on some info. The second organization named in the article, Antivax Watch, has been around for a while. They are an activist group as well, so you have to take their stuff with a healthy squint in your eye, but what I have read from them in the past has been sound.
The getting rich part is easy. Just copy the PETA model. They start a tax-exempt nonprofit, they pump out a lot of misinformation that attracts like-minded people, then they hit those folks with repeated fundraising efforts.
812,000 posts from 12 IP addresses? I'll guarantee you there are BOTS and money flowing.
I know eighteen who got the vac. Three died. Those odds are not in my favor.
Yeah, that rings true all right. (Get it? Rings? Ringman? ) I crack me up.
Yeah, that is utter made-up bull s h I t, and you know it, and we all know it. I know hundreds who’ve had one of the various CoV2 vaccines. Zero deaths.
With all due respect Doc, that's some happy horse shixt.
I knew I could count on ya to jump right on this one, ee.
Sadly, I think the data mining is quite likely true. The named malefactors in the article are dry well known for playing fast and loose with facts, and the ones I recognize are affiliated with some very profitable “non-profit” organizations.
YMMV
lol... a doctor complaining about others making money off disease. Tell us doc, who do you think has made more, the covid peddlers or the vaccine sceptics?
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
No. The message here is if you rely on one line posts and links from the Campfire idiots that post here all day with no credentials and no actual analysis then perhaps you are typical of more and more Americans who never had to actually read anything science or technology complicated and like answers they agree on spoon fed to them.
Read the link Doc posted. It names who these people are and how they are making money on their shrill moronic cries. It's not a hard read and is pretty enlightening and at least in a couple cases not surprising. However, if you want to continue to just live in the echo chamber of the same dozen folks here that think yelling loud and often makes them right be my guest.
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What a coincidence! I’m loading 270’s today myself.
We shut down the entire world over a condition 99.7% people survive IF they catch it. I can’t imagine any commodified fear and ignorance taking part in that reasoning. Lol
You know, you and I are pretty close to agreement on this point, JoeBob. Except I think the number is probably a bit higher than 99.7%. YMMV
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
I posed this same question to DocRocket five weeks ago. He never responded.
Sorry I missed your question, Kingston. I don’t get on this forum as often as I might, I’m pretty busy with other stuff in RL and only stop in here every few days or so when I ah e time. I’ve tried to answer the question in another post, above.
As for the profitability of vaccine manufacture, I’m no expert and I certainly don’t have any Pfizer stock, but my understanding is that the profit margins for vaccine producers are pretty dismal, usually. However, given the vast international underwriting of the current pandemic, I expect the current vaccines are an exception to that rule.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
There you went and did it! After 17,000+ posts where you were one of the most respected members here who everyone looked to for advice, you've ruined by one post. All the naysayers who get their information from no-name websites run out of basements, hate you now!
Ha!
As if those guys didn’t hate me before... trust me, they did. I have gobs of hate PM’s to prove it squirreled away here somewhere. I make origami voodoo dolls out of ‘em.
I got halfway through the article Doc linked and my bullshit meter was starting to redline. The author claims they are hawking the disinformation via, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter and Instagram. They only venue on that list I visit is You Tube and I can tell you they heavily censor anything regarding covid and from what I hear so do the other social media types.
You could be right, but I think what the article is referring to is the way these propagandists’ messages get picked up by other agents who are more mainstream... they may not have all the worst content, but they let enough stuff slip through that the YouTube censors don’t catch it. As for the Face ok and Twitter censors, they’re a joke...
Anyway, your BS detector is your business, and I say keep it well-homed. I run into a lot of the antivax propaganda 3rd-hand in the ER and other RL settings. I have to spend a lot of time on patient education on the issues, so I track the stuff the self-appointed watchdogs like Antivax Watch put out, as it helps me be prepared for questions people will ask me.
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
I think I’ve answered your question as to why elsewhere, and if you remember, I’ve told you I don’t care if you get it or not.
I’m 50 years old. I’m 5’11 and I weighed in at 182 pounds this morning. I have no comorbidities and I take no drugs.
Assuming for the sake of argument that the Covid vaccine is as safe as any other vaccine, why should I take it? And more importantly why does anyone care if I do or not?
I think I’ve answered your question as to why elsewhere, and if you remember, I’ve told you I don’t care if you get it or not.
Your answer mirrored my docs advice to me except for saying he wouldn’t if it was him.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
If I were a website with "science" in my name, and my article was about disinformation, I'd give specific examples of the disinformation and provide cites for why it is wrong. That was conspicuously absent from the article.
Yeah, I think that’s a valid point, but what passes for news articles on this stuff is all pretty short on substance. In any case, most of the articles I get the bulk of my info from are too long and too sciencey for reposting here. If you go to Antivax Watch (the second sponsor of the data min8ng project) and look up some of their articles you’ll get a bit more science.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
You calling me lib, sonny?!?
I did. sonny.
Then you ain’t got a clue. Go pizz up a rope with that other guy I to,d to go pizz up a rope.
The bullshit article does reference a study which lists examples of "disinformation".
The first example (no need ta read any further), was the horrible fact that there was "no increase in the death rate in 2020".
So, the article itself is bullshit.
It was also posted by the one guy on the thread actually making money off covid.
Yeah, we all made a killing.
FWIW, I got furloughed at my primary ER in April and lost about 40% of my earnings for the year before I got back to work. Most front line doctors got hit hard by the shutdowns. The big corporations, the govt, and big pharma all did great, though.
The bullshit article does reference a study which lists examples of "disinformation".
The first example (no need ta read any further), was the horrible fact that there was "no increase in the death rate in 2020".
So, the article itself is bullshit.
It was also posted by the one guy on the thread actually making money off covid.
Yeah, we all made a killing.
FWIW, I got furloughed at my primary ER in April and lost about 40% of my earnings for the year before I got back to work. Most front line doctors got hit hard by the shutdowns. The big corporations, the govt, and big pharma all did great, though.
I noticed the OP didn't take the time to answer all the questions leveled at him about his posting. Most were respectful too. Acting just the same as the libs.
You calling me lib, sonny?!?
I did. sonny.
Then you ain’t got a clue. Go pizz up a rope with that other guy I to,d to go pizz up a rope.
Maybe you can find a link on the rope trick for us.
The bullshit article does reference a study which lists examples of "disinformation".
The first example (no need ta read any further), was the horrible fact that there was "no increase in the death rate in 2020".
So, the article itself is bullshit.
It was also posted by the one guy on the thread actually making money off covid.
Yeah, we all made a killing.
FWIW, I got furloughed at my primary ER in April and lost about 40% of my earnings for the year before I got back to work. Most front line doctors got hit hard by the shutdowns. The big corporations, the govt, and big pharma all did great, though.
Have you ever been paid to treat covid patients?
You’re making a pretty stupid argument here. No ER doc’s life has been made better by this situation. Stop digging.
The bullshit article does reference a study which lists examples of "disinformation".
The first example (no need ta read any further), was the horrible fact that there was "no increase in the death rate in 2020".
So, the article itself is bullshit.
It was also posted by the one guy on the thread actually making money off covid.
Yeah, we all made a killing.
FWIW, I got furloughed at my primary ER in April and lost about 40% of my earnings for the year before I got back to work. Most front line doctors got hit hard by the shutdowns. The big corporations, the govt, and big pharma all did great, though.
Have you ever been paid to treat covid patients?
You’re making a pretty stupid argument here. No ER doc’s life has been made better by this situation. Stop digging.
It's irony dumbazz. The very person complaining about other people making money off covid, makes money off disease. Covid among others.
Afaic, this is proof the CDC lied to us. I expect we will find Trumps recommended Hydrochloroquine tx will cure the flu also. These are CDC numbers, Doc.
Two friends became violently ill after the first Pfizer shot. One couldnt hold food down for 4-5 days.
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
I posed this same question to DocRocket five weeks ago. He never responded.
Sorry I missed your question, Kingston. I don’t get on this forum as often as I might, I’m pretty busy with other stuff in RL and only stop in here every few days or so when I ah e time. I’ve tried to answer the question in another post, above.
As for the profitability of vaccine manufacture, I’m no expert and I certainly don’t have any Pfizer stock, but my understanding is that the profit margins for vaccine producers are pretty dismal, usually. However, given the vast international underwriting of the current pandemic, I expect the current vaccines are an exception to that rule.
As I understand it, manufacturing vaccines is not very profitable. That's one reason we sometimes see shortages. In this case, Trump guaranteed several drug companies that the US Government would buy a large quantity of their vaccines at a good price. He did this to incentivize them to put a lot of resources toward creating vaccines, and spread out the risk, and it worked. In Europe, where the EU tried to get the best "deal" they could could from a single manufacturer, AstraZeneca, the manufacturer had problems and there is not nearly as much vaccine available in Europe as they would like. Operation Warp Speed was one of Trump's top achievements as President even though he seems to get very little credit for it.
I am absolutely amazed at the number of people who are making comments on this topic without either reading the article, or reading it without understanding it.
1. Nowhere in the article does it say how the “dozen” are becoming “filthy rich” by telling people NOT to do something.
2. Nowhere in the article is a single piece of evidence that ANYTHING the “dozen” has said is incorrect – simply that there are over 800K posts on social media with an opinion opposite to that supported by the two organizations quoted, the not-for-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) and Anti-Vax Watch, an organization that monitors the anti-vaccine industry.
3. If you don’t believe that both of those groups are liberal fronts, consider this: one decides who is publishing “hate” speech and the other ONLY watches people who disagree with the big drug companies, Faucci and the self-contradictory CDC. Both have a spoken mission to ban free speech from social media if it doesn’t comply with the viewpoint they support.
4. Need more convincing? The only person quoted in the article is Imran Ahmed, the CEO of the CCDH – why are there no other people of significant medical background available to weigh in on this issue? And just how much medical education and experience does HE have? Everything else is "according to researchers" - and gee, we all know how trustworthy unknown and unnamed "researchers" are!
The only medical journal cited in the article, the little-known Nature Medicine, also published this article: “The not-so-silent killer missing in medical-training curricula: racism”. The article summary makes this statement: “Racism is a social determinant of health and negatively affects health outcomes. This Comment describes steps to take toward achieving equity and racial justice in medical training and addressing racism in clinical settings.”
Notice those “woke” code words? ACHIEVING EQUITY AND RACIAL JUSTICE. No, they are not biased toward the liberal/socialist agenda – not at all!
5. Also, please note that both of the organizations call anything that disagrees with their viewpoint “disinformation” – coloring it all as a lie without a shred of proof. This is a typical liberal tactic to justify censoring free speech by banning the authors from social media.
6. Finally, I didn’t check every name on the “dirty dozen” list – the list of people who aren’t supposed to know anything about medical issues, but one name did catch my eye. Dr. Christine Northrup has very impressive medical credentials: she graduated from Dartmouth Medical School and completed her residency at Tufts New England Medical Center in Boston. She was also an assistant clinical professor of OB/GYN at Maine Medical Center for 20 years and is a NY Times best-selling author of a half-dozen books. Did you notice that they left off the “Dr” in front of her name?
I would venture to say that she knows a hell of a lot more about medicine than the guy who wrote that piece of crap article.
I am absolutely amazed at the number of people who are making comments on this topic without either reading the article, or reading it without understanding it.
1. Nowhere in the article does it say how the “dozen” are becoming “filthy rich” by telling people NOT to do something.
2. Nowhere in the article is a single piece of evidence that ANYTHING the “dozen” has said is incorrect – simply that there are over 800K posts on social media with an opinion opposite to that supported by the two organizations quoted, the not-for-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) and Anti-Vax Watch, an organization that monitors the anti-vaccine industry.
3. If you don’t believe that both of those groups are liberal fronts, consider this: one decides who is publishing “hate” speech and the other ONLY watches people who disagree with the big drug companies, Faucci and the self-contradictory CDC. Both have a spoken mission to ban free speech from social media if it doesn’t comply with the viewpoint they support.
4. Need more convincing? The only person quoted in the article is Imran Ahmed, the CEO of the CCDH – why are there no other people of significant medical background available to weigh in on this issue? And just how much medical education and experience does HE have? Everything else is "according to researchers" - and gee, we all know how trustworthy unknown and unnamed "researchers" are!
The only medical journal cited in the article, the little-known Nature Medicine, also published this article: “The not-so-silent killer missing in medical-training curricula: racism”. The article summary makes this statement: “Racism is a social determinant of health and negatively affects health outcomes. This Comment describes steps to take toward achieving equity and racial justice in medical training and addressing racism in clinical settings.”
Notice those “woke” code words? ACHIEVING EQUITY AND RACIAL JUSTICE. No, they are not biased toward the liberal/socialist agenda – not at all!
5. Also, please note that both of the organizations call anything that disagrees with their viewpoint “disinformation” – coloring it all as a lie without a shred of proof. This is a typical liberal tactic to justify censoring free speech by banning the authors from social media.
6. Finally, I didn’t check every name on the “dirty dozen” list – the list of people who aren’t supposed to know anything about medical issues, but one name did catch my eye. Dr. Christine Northrup has very impressive medical credentials: she graduated from Dartmouth Medical School and completed her residency at Tufts New England Medical Center in Boston. She was also an assistant clinical professor of OB/GYN at Maine Medical Center for 20 years and is a NY Times best-selling author of a half-dozen books. Did you notice that they left off the “Dr” in front of her name?
I would venture to say that she knows a hell of a lot more about medicine than the guy who wrote that piece of crap article.
None of that matters because you're not a doctor and the OP is.
Okay, kids, I’ve tried to post replies to most of the direct questions, I gotta go do some real stuff now. Have fun!
You unwashed and uncircumcised Philistines I have sideswiped you with a partisan article by people with an agenda. Tough sheit if you want me explain how the "vaccine" works or more importantly how to make anything but heartache for yourself by opposing it. They made a ton of money being anti-vax and you are supposed to believe it. My name is DOCTOR and that is enough.
Doc, I respect your opinions and appreciate your willingness to put out helpful information.
Can you explain why someone with natural antibodies[contracted it] would need the vaccine?
P.S. I would venture a guess that the 'vax business' is also quite profitable, no?
Interesting that Doc would start a topic of discussion and not attend the discussion. I'd like to know the answer to that question as well.
Sorry, fellas, I put that post up and then got sidetracked by a few pieces of Real Life, and had to step away for a bit. Looks like the usual suspects have jumped on with a will in my absence, no surprises there!
My short answer to your question, Raeford, is that I don’t think a person who’s had a documented case of COVID pneumonitis (or the bronchitis form, or possibly even the GI symptoms, although I’m a lot less sure of this last one) “needs” a vaccine at this time. Will they “need” one in a year? I dunno.
My reading of the actual science of this, as opposed to the rumor-repetitions that pass for information on most social media platforms including this one, is that a real infection is going to do a lot more than just trigger antibody production. Most important here is activation of cellular/T-cell immunity, which is a major component of your immune systems’s ability to recognize and fight off viral pathogens. Vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna aren’t expected to stimulate much of a cellular immunity at all, but that may prove out differently as we observe the effects over time. A lot of my expert colleagues think that those of us who were significantly exposed but didn’t get sick may have had robust antibody libraries on hand from other coronavirus infections, but also probably robust T-cell defenses.
This may be one of the few benefits of working ER medicine... we get exposed to every viral plague that runs through our communities, so we tend to not get sick very often. I was exposed to several very sick COVID cases early in the epidemic, in very high exposure environments... intubating them at close quarters, breathing their germs right in my face... and this was before we knew to put on spacesuits to protect ourselves. By rights I should have been one of the first infected, but I didn’t get so much as a sniffle.
I expect most folks who truly had COVID, as opposed to a sniffle and a positive lab test ( I have been as skeptical of the positive lab test results as many of you here, btw), will do fine for at least a year without a vaccine.
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How about all the corrupt bastards lining their pockets that were also in on developing and funding the virus itself?
Scare tactics, threats, and BULL$HIT to push some rushed concoction of unknown whale$hit, that has a good chane of killing or permanently Fing you up, but it might protect you from a virus you have a 99% chance of surviving just fine. And, by the way you still will get covid after the Gates insemination goop.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
Thanks for affirming how stupid you are.
I still have a long way to go to match you. In fact, with your head start, I never will.
You live in Michigan.
You’re anti-Trump.
You believe COVID is a concern.
I’d say that makes you as dumb as a hammer. LOL
Hey,he is giving hammers a bad name.A dumbphuc is 20 steps up the ladder from UPCocksucker.
Yes I have. Unlike you, who started a whole thread about getting the virus and then getting the vaccine. Even your underage son supposedly got the vaccine. But everyone here knew it was all BS, because that's the way you are.
Thanks for affirming how stupid you are.
I still have a long way to go to match you. In fact, with your head start, I never will.
You live in Michigan.
You’re anti-Trump.
You believe COVID is a concern.
I’d say that makes you as dumb as a hammer. LOL
Hey,he is giving hammers a bad name.A dumbphuc is 20 steps up the ladder from UPCocksucker.
Yep, Col Travis is correct. My hammer is smart enough it doesn't vote for commies.
I am absolutely amazed at the number of people who are making comments on this topic without either reading the article, or reading it without understanding it.
1. Nowhere in the article does it say how the “dozen” are becoming “filthy rich” by telling people NOT to do something.
2. Nowhere in the article is a single piece of evidence that ANYTHING the “dozen” has said is incorrect – simply that there are over 800K posts on social media with an opinion opposite to that supported by the two organizations quoted, the not-for-profit Center for Countering Digital Hate (CCDH) and Anti-Vax Watch, an organization that monitors the anti-vaccine industry.
3. If you don’t believe that both of those groups are liberal fronts, consider this: one decides who is publishing “hate” speech and the other ONLY watches people who disagree with the big drug companies, Faucci and the self-contradictory CDC. Both have a spoken mission to ban free speech from social media if it doesn’t comply with the viewpoint they support.
4. Need more convincing? The only person quoted in the article is Imran Ahmed, the CEO of the CCDH – why are there no other people of significant medical background available to weigh in on this issue? And just how much medical education and experience does HE have? Everything else is "according to researchers" - and gee, we all know how trustworthy unknown and unnamed "researchers" are!
The only medical journal cited in the article, the little-known Nature Medicine, also published this article: “The not-so-silent killer missing in medical-training curricula: racism”. The article summary makes this statement: “Racism is a social determinant of health and negatively affects health outcomes. This Comment describes steps to take toward achieving equity and racial justice in medical training and addressing racism in clinical settings.”
Notice those “woke” code words? ACHIEVING EQUITY AND RACIAL JUSTICE. No, they are not biased toward the liberal/socialist agenda – not at all!
5. Also, please note that both of the organizations call anything that disagrees with their viewpoint “disinformation” – coloring it all as a lie without a shred of proof. This is a typical liberal tactic to justify censoring free speech by banning the authors from social media.
6. Finally, I didn’t check every name on the “dirty dozen” list – the list of people who aren’t supposed to know anything about medical issues, but one name did catch my eye. Dr. Christine Northrup has very impressive medical credentials: she graduated from Dartmouth Medical School and completed her residency at Tufts New England Medical Center in Boston. She was also an assistant clinical professor of OB/GYN at Maine Medical Center for 20 years and is a NY Times best-selling author of a half-dozen books. Did you notice that they left off the “Dr” in front of her name?
I would venture to say that she knows a hell of a lot more about medicine than the guy who wrote that piece of crap article.
People cannot read critically anymore. You nailed that.
Filthy rich? You mean like Bill Gates or Anthony Fouci?
Gates, the mass murder and Satanic psychopath billionaire is one of the richest men in the USA. Fouci has a higher pay grade then the President, and also took bribes in the last 20 years which have brought his net worth to more money than can be easily counted, but we are supposed to be concerned that some "anti-vaxers" (better said to be anti-liars) may be getting paid? And that the pay of those "anti-vaxers" shows they are bad people?
We all knew two years ago the untested mrna vax caused a lot of health problems killing thousands who got it and it never prevented you from getting or spreading covid
I have a good friend who is a 25 year practicing Pediatrician and teaches at a medical school on the side because is passionate about medicine and treating people. . She has been testifying with other doctors around the country on how dangerous the vax is and its dangerous side affects. She was fired from one hospital for not getting the vax. The current clinic she works at is trying to force her to give the covid vax to children. She advised most doctors are brain washed idiots now it zero common and just want to forget covid happened and that they went along with the vax and destroyed tens of thousands of lives as a result
What happened to science Doc?
All of the brave Doctors who were brave enough to speak out were fired or were threatened with revocation of their license to practice. Most lost tens of thousands of dollars for speaking the truth This is the pure definition of Facism
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
For every doctor who graduated at the top of his class, one graduated at the bottom. [/quote] And lucky us,he posts right here.[/quote]
For every doctor graduating at the bottom of his class, there are thousands who could never have even gotten into the class.
PS: Real life known cases, there was a significant difference in hospitalization / mortality for those who were vaxed and those who weren't early on. Science and facts can't convince a lot of people though. I've stopped trying.
For every doctor who graduated at the top of his class, one graduated at the bottom.
And lucky us,he posts right here.[/quote]
For every doctor graduating at the bottom of his class, there are thousands who could never have even gotten into the class.
PS: Real life known cases, there was a significant difference in hospitalization / mortality for those who were vaxed and those who weren't early on. Science and facts can't convince a lot of people though. I've stopped trying.[/quote] Thanks !
There was proven to be inflated numbers of COVID deaths It was proven that the vaccine didn't work and in fact caused lots of problems and deaths The flu disappeared globally for over a year according to what was reported.
In what crazy works do you live? And now you try to justify it by saying that early on it may have helped? FFS. Seriously.
I for one have lost faith in the medical community, they had huge trust of the population and they squandered it. Those that stood up were eaten by their own and now they are shown to be right and you still try to discredit them. Absolutely horrible in my eyes, and a lot of other folks. Can't be caught lying for years and then expect us to forget.
For every doctor who graduated at the top of his class, one graduated at the bottom.
And lucky us,he posts right here.[/quote]
For every doctor graduating at the bottom of his class, there are thousands who could never have even gotten into the class.
PS: Real life known cases, there was a significant difference in hospitalization / mortality for those who were vaxed and those who weren't early on. Science and facts can't convince a lot of people though. I've stopped trying.[/quote]
So the untested vaccine prevented covid? Who kept a database for each hospital to check and see what vaccine and booster shot each patient and the date and type of vaccine or booster each patient admitted to a hospital?
Can you share that data proving unvaxxed were not hospitalized vs in vaxxed vs natural immunity?
Thanks
When someone was vaxxed or boosted for the 6th time did they report their vaccine type and date to the cdc to comply and study data?
Why does the medical establishment now refuse to discuss all of the misinformation they put out during covid and incompetent treatment of covid patients the first years using vents and expensive and dangerous anti virals?
Funny how these covid clowns believed every non science based covid data disinformation and now pretend that nothing happened and they don’t want anyone to ask science based questions now
How many Americans were killed by these incompetent Doctors who worshipped group think and politics over science?
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
At least people aren't dying from what they are pushing.
I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I don't, my family don't, my acquaintances don't, the fellow in the Philippines I just finished talking to on the phone doesn't.
So where the fuck are these millions of dead covid victims?
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
At least people aren't dying from what they are pushing.
I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I don't, my family don't, my acquaintances don't, the fellow in the Philippines I just finished talking to on the phone doesn't.
So where the fuck are these millions of dead covid victims?
Yes early on but the docs and gov't could be lyinb
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
There you went and did it! After 17,000+ posts where you were one of the most respected members here who everyone looked to for advice, you've ruined by one post. All the naysayers who get their information from no-name websites run out of basements, hate you now!
Ha!
As if those guys didn’t hate me before... trust me, they did. I have gobs of hate PM’s to prove it squirreled away here somewhere. I make origami voodoo dolls out of ‘em.
Amazing! Will you take someone’s money for medical advice? LMFAO
"Science Education" it don't take much education to see this vaccine and all the other crap that goes with it is a fraud.It's sad to see how many americans are believing this lie.
There's too many who are a part of the fraud admitting that it was/is a fraud.
Still a pureblood guess I am not smart enough to be a covtard. I do know for a fact (twice) that a 6 dollar tube of ivermectin works fine for getting rid of covid 19. Mb
If the world still has civilization in the next 5yrs we will know about this debacle. It will be interesting to see what if any impact on health the unvaxxed aquire and what happens to the vaxxed mainstream govt mandate followers.
Personally I'm a pure blood if it don't count my leprosy and rabies afflictions.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
At least people aren't dying from what they are pushing.
I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I don't, my family don't, my acquaintances don't, the fellow in the Philippines I just finished talking to on the phone doesn't.
So where the fuck are these millions of dead covid victims?
I dont either but i sure as chit know people who who harmed and killed by this lie of a vax. People need to be swinging from a tree for this chit
We all knew two years ago the untested mrna vax caused a lot of health problems killing thousands who got it and it never prevented you from getting or spreading covid
I have a good friend who is a 25 year practicing Pediatrician and teaches at a medical school on the side because is passionate about medicine and treating people. . She has been testifying with other doctors around the country on how dangerous the vax is and its dangerous side affects. She was fired from one hospital for not getting the vax. The current clinic she works at is trying to force her to give the covid vax to children. She advised most doctors are brain washed idiots now it zero common and just want to forget covid happened and that they went along with the vax and destroyed tens of thousands of lives as a result
What happened to science Doc?
All of the brave Doctors who were brave enough to speak out were fired or were threatened with revocation of their license to practice. Most lost tens of thousands of dollars for speaking the truth This is the pure definition of Facism
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
Docs another retard who blindly followed what the gov was saying and did his best to slander anyone who asked questions. Fugg him and anyone who backed this madness. We were right, they were wrong. End of story
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
[quote=DocRocket]I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I do.
A cousin of my Ex. Hadn’t seen him in awhile, no comorbidities I’m aware of.
A husband of another cousin of my Ex. Knew this guy only from family gatherings. He was employed full time by the city driving a bus when he caught it so I doubt he had major health problems.
Both of Mexican ancestry, early 50’s.
I do not know of anyone suffering ill effects from the jab and I’m surrounded by people who took it. I myself have had four Pfizer’s.
I’m not doubting ill effects have occurred from the virus on the one hand, or the shots on the other.
I will say given Doc Rocket’s proven record of saving lives working in and running an ER, I’d turn to him for health advice before most anyone else I know. Was he wrong on the shots? Coulda been, but I believe he said as much.
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
At least people aren't dying from what they are pushing.
I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I don't, my family don't, my acquaintances don't, the fellow in the Philippines I just finished talking to on the phone doesn't.
So where the fuck are these millions of dead covid victims?
I know of two older men who died. I knew them very well, talking with them at least a couple times a week. Both were late 60's to mid 70's. They were brothers and both did farm work every day. My sister 44 was in intensive care for weeks but she is so fat she can't walk 50 feet without getting out of breath. My 72-year-old mom kicked it like a mild cold in a week.
I never got vaccinated because the extreme push to vaccinate even children at extreme low risk, and the suppression of any opposing science made me too suspicious.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
Remdemisvr, killed one person my age that I knew. They came very close to killing me with that $hit. Perfect kidney functions the first time I went in with Covid only to have renal failure a few days after I came out. They must have given me the proper treatment the second time in because my kidney functions went back to normal and stayed normal ever since. My lungs recovered fairly quickly and are 100% for a person my age. I guess it pays to maintain a healthy lifestyle because I probably wouldn’t have survived it otherwise.
It’s sick to read the intellectual arrogance in the OP. Now! I’m in the know all you Cretins. Pick your knuckles up out of the dirt and listen because you don’t have then God given, natural or acquired ability to understand what I’m about to lay out.
[quote=DocRocket]I have a question: Do any here know of anyone who personally knew someone/anyone that died from covid...not just existing morbidities...covid.
Not heard of...read of...actually knew.
I do.
A cousin of my Ex. Hadn’t seen him in awhile, no comorbidities I’m aware of.
A husband of another cousin of my Ex. Knew this guy only from family gatherings. He was employed full time by the city driving a bus when he caught it so I doubt he had major health problems.
Both of Mexican ancestry, early 50’s.
I do not know of anyone suffering ill effects from the jab and I’m surrounded by people who took it. I myself have had four Pfizer’s.
I’m not doubting ill effects have occurred from the virus on the one hand, or the shots on the other.
I will say given Doc Rocket’s proven record of saving lives working in and running an ER, I’d turn to him for health advice before most anyone else I know. Was he wrong on the shots? Coulda been, but I believe he said as much.
Improper treatment killed many people, not covid. Vents, remdemsivr ect. There were/are treatments that would help people, but the gov and the left found it better to just kill as many as they could to try and keep their power. Alot of people bought into all the lies because alot of people cant think for themselves or do any meaningful research.
I never got vaccinated because the extreme push to vaccinate even children at extreme low risk, and the suppression of any opposing science made me too suspicious.
A huge chunk of the "COVID-19 Deaths" were deaths resulting from giving patients Remdesivir and putting them on ventilators, instead of what had become known the world over as a very effective treatment, i.e., Ivermectin. Instead, they made the known effective treatment almost impossible to acquire.
Had Covid twice. Was it good? No. Didn’t come close to killing me. No shots for me but to each their own. Nobody is making any money off of me for not getting the shot. Edk
Had Covid twice. Was it good? No. Didn’t come close to killing me. No shots for me but to each their own. Nobody is making any money off of me for not getting the shot. Edk
I have copped it twice, second was meh...but the first, whilst it didn't kill me I would have gladly kicked the bastard that designed it to death.
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
Maybe if the vaccine proponents didn't ignore the "suddenly died" stories about all of the young people in the prime of their lives dropping dead, and the sharp rise in certain problems among the fully vaccinated, people might not be so suspicious. Why is there a blackout of information if there's nothing to see here? I don't need to be a doctor to spot a coverup. You can trust their "science" if you want, not me.
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
I agree with Mannlicher on this... I have had many public exchanges and a few PM exchanges with DocRocket and he has always been kind, and respectful.
We disagreed to an extreme on the covid issue. But had respectful and interesting conversations about it.
Put yourself in his shoes... he was on the frontline, some of his patients were dying! the medical establishment he devoted his life to was giving him false info... I bet he has lost some trust along with the rest of us!
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
I agree with Mannlicher on this... I have had many public exchanges and a few PM exchanges with DocRocket and he has always been kind, and respectful.
We disagreed to an extreme on the covid issue. But had respectful and interesting conversations about it.
Put yourself in his shoes... he was on the frontline, some of his patients were dying! the medical establishment he devoted his life to was giving him false info... I bet he has lost some trust along with the rest of us!
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
I agree with Mannlicher on this... I have had many public exchanges and a few PM exchanges with DocRocket and he has always been kind, and respectful.
We disagreed to an extreme on the covid issue. But had respectful and interesting conversations about it.
Put yourself in his shoes... he was on the frontline, some of his patients were dying! the medical establishment he devoted his life to was giving him false info... I bet he has lost some trust along with the rest of us!
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I started a thread about Doc giving a mea culpa a few months back and Doc refused... he did send me a comprehensive PM explaining why and much of it had to do with certain campfire members notorious trolling... he felt it would just end up a schit storm
Had Covid twice. Was it good? No. Didn’t come close to killing me. No shots for me but to each their own. Nobody is making any money off of me for not getting the shot. Edk
I have copped it twice, second was meh...but the first, whilst it didn't kill me I would have gladly kicked the bastard that designed it to death.
You should qualify your statement with the fact that you've been vaxxed and boosted.
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread.
Yep, so fuqk him.
Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth.
I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word.
And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Dems push this s hit so as to justify mail-in ballots!
This! Plandemic, what happens in an election year is about the election. Obama through Fauci continued gain of function research in China after congress made it difficult to do it here.
I believe c19 was man made my only remaining question was whether the left released it on purpose or just exploited it for political reasons once it was out.
Either way many more people died because of their policies and lying. They hyped it up to get their plan in place to steal the election. Tells us what they're capable of, pure evil, for power.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Good post! hopefully Doc will swallow the red pill soon and see with clear vision
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Yep. And they said we were insane when we pointed at the death panels. Little did we know how thoroughly that little scheme could or would be implemented.
Just a few observations I had of the China flu, the jab, and other treatment. I'm sure there are more. I got it a little over a year ago. I'll never take any of the currently offered jabs. I'll take pure blood and natural immunity for $1000 Alex.
1. For the first time I know of, there was no suggest treatment in the beginning. No drink more water. No take more vitamin B, C, or D. No exercise more, nothing. If you get it say home alone or isolated. If things get worse go to the hospital.
2. Less than honest reports on ICU capacities. ICU's run anywhere from 60-90% capacity in normal times depending on the hospital.
3. To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
4. If the jab was so necessary, why wasn't it given to all those caught crossing the southern border and then bussed to the interior of the country? Had no one in the administration seen a zombie out brake movie? That is the exact opposite of what one would do if they actually wanted to stop the spread of a contagious virus.
5. The actual death toll. We're still seeing the died with covid number, not the died of covid number.
6. The continued call for people under 18 getting jabbed? Please someone explain this one to me. Children under 18 had a 99.9+% survival rate. Just a little over a 1000 died in two years. More die drowning in backyard pools. Yet they are continuing to push jabbing kids, even under 6 months.
7. The CDC redefining vaccine so the covid "vaccine" qualifies.
8. The "you're going to kill Grandma at Thanksgiving" if you aren't jabbed or too many gather in one location lie.
9. Why were liquor stores deemed essential, but church's weren't?
10. One mask, no mask, one mask, two mask, why mask?
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self. This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
The rest of you just got played.
Unfortunately the people that got played were the ones who didn't question big pharma/government/social media/medical industrial complex.
It seems amazing to me that all the Doctors promoting the shot, have so little to offer in the way of treatment. Bunch of clueless morons, IMO.
Money being made ?? If you can't see where the real money was being made, you're too stupid to talk to me about anything..
Go ahead, get a booster every 3 months, the Magic Shot will save you !! hahaha
I heard , if you get at least 4 boosters, you don't even have to stop and have St. Peter check the list, when you go to the Big Drugstore in the Sky, you get a special VIP line, bypassing all the peasants. The stupid ones, who died from natural causes....heh heh.
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread.
Yep, so fuqk him.
Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth.
I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word.
And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself.
Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread.
Yep, so fuqk him.
Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth.
I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word.
And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself.
Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better
mRNA vaccine is not approved for use on animals in the United States. That crap was rolled out for humans with out the normal years of trial before approval.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
It's even worse than that... the government shut down the hospitals, to make room for the anticipated rush of covid patients... the hospitals lost millions, so they had to go along with the hoax in order to get government money to survive, and in the process they made more money than ever, partnering with a government that prints trillions is a profitable gig.... Look at the bright side... no more mean tweets...
To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 (https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php)
Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa.
Coding a patient as a Covid patient in 2020 through 2022 was big bucks for hospitals. Even if a patient came in for a heart attack or stroke or broken arm if they tested positive for covid they coded them as a covid patient. Over $30 k for each coded patient
The federal funds have run out now hospitals won't even take covid patients
Tells you what a big scam this was
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by RiverRider
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 (https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php)
Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa.
I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it.
lol
Millions of doses of ivermectin were given in South America, Mexico, India, Japan and were very successful to treat covid
Millions and millions of lives were saved in Africa by Ivermectin the past 4 decades and against parasitic and viral diseases
Why did US pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin and hydroxy prescriptions during covid? I wonder how many innocent Americans died because of these fools?
Funny the same pharmacists filled prescriptions for the deadly Vioxx drug with out hesitation for years without a concern. How many of the tens of millions of people given ivermectin, a year die from ivermectin?
To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 (https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php)
Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa.
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
well, you were one of cowardly fools who very enthusiastically swallowed Biden's propaganda and who pushed the vax that never worked and did not stop the spread of covid and killed thousands of Americans and more will die including my healthy mother
Im never going to forget what scum bags like you did during the fake pandemic. You showed your true colors as a weak minded gullible moron
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 (https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php)
Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa.
I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it.
lol
Millions of doses of ivermectin were given in South America, Mexico, India, Japan and were very successful to treat covid
Millions and millions of lives were saved in Africa by Ivermectin the past 4 decades and against parasitic and viral diseases
Why did US pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin and hydroxy prescriptions during covid? I wonder how many innocent Americans died because of these fools?
Funny the same pharmacists filled prescriptions for the deadly Vioxx drug with out hesitation for years without a concern. How many of the tens of millions of people given ivermectin, a year die from ivermectin?
And don't forget the millions of Indians saved when the WHO quietly ceased the Indian outbreak within weeks using their Ivermectin "Medicine Kit". And then immediately covered up what they had done and how they stopped one of the largest Covid outbreaks during the height of the pandemic.
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars. All anyone had to do was spend 20 minutes on PubMed.com to understand why Moderna never achieved a successful Phase I clinical trial with the drug. Little wonder why Moderna was NEVER successful in bringing their technology to market until they were given complete and total immunity for what they were about to do to unsuspecting people. Robert Malone knew the dangers and was immediately silenced, ostracized, and marginalized as a radical anti-vaxer.
I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included: 1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine. 2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient. 3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus. 4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable. 5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development. 6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic.
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread.
Yep, so fuqk him.
Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth.
I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word.
And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself.
Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better
Maybe you should read my post again. Carefully.
edit: now that I have time...I have long recognized the intractability of the left. I am not talking about persuading morons like losttrail, I am talking about folks who are on the correct side of things generally but occasionally make an error in judgement. I doubt you "understand the current landscape in america" any better than I do because I recognized the intractability of the left and read the writing on the wall long before the turn of the century, and possibly while you were learning to write your name.
That 260 coward can't even vote in an election, much less run a hospital. I feel like I could be a poster child for this Covid19 fraud. I have an auto immune disease, and was put on an AI drug to suppress my hyper AI reactions, this drug being hydroxychloraquine which just so happens to be the drug Africans have been taking for decades to fight malaria. I refused the jab in spite of my rheumatologist's rec to get it. In short, I contacted Covid, continued the hydroxy and added a tube of horse past Ivermectin for a week. Result was nothing more than an insignificant cold. In the meantime, my Dr. got it twice in spite of jabs and boosters. He hasn't mentioned any "vaccination" to me in over a year.
The covtards like antelope sniper are always amusing.
so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ?
He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread.
Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians.
Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted.
Spot on
You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads.
Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem.
One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included: 1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine. 2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient. 3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus. 4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable. 5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development. 6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic.
Good post, and thanks for having the balls to stand up against the "powers that be". Screw those criminals.
Thank you. I have three close friends who are doctors, including my sister and another 1/2 dozen nurse friends that treated Covid patients.
Everyone stated the same
Originally Posted by Petehm
I'm one of the very few docs who did not take the mRNA vaccine.
The US healthcare response to the pandemic was a failure in my opinion and I'm extremely disappointed that almost all physicians stopped critical thinking and instead succumbed to fear.
Almost all physicians ignored everything they had learned in medical school or as a practicing physician. The false promises included: 1. We can stop a pandemic due to a easily transmitted respiratory virus with a vaccine. 2. One year of testing was sufficient to state the vax was safe and effective for everyone, from a newborn to a 100 year old patient. 3. Simple masks can stop the spread of a respiratory virus. 4. Healthy people should be forced to take an untested medication to protect the vulnerable. 5. Shutting down schools and making young children wear masks will not have any long-lasting side effects on the kids development. 6. Shutting down society will have no ill effects.
I'm sure there are many more examples. The Great Barrington Declaration, which focused on protecting the at-risk patients and was against lockdowns, should have been supported by all physicians.
I know most people want to move on from Covid, but it's not possible since Fauci, the CDC, county and state medical boards, etc have never said they were wrong or apologized for their actions during the pandemic.
I suggest reading Lies My Government Told Me by Dr. Robert Malone (with many other contributors). None of it will be news to many on here, but it does document the pandemic and put it all into perspective. I can understand how people were duped at the outset; heck, even President Trump was fooled by the deliberate lies he was told. What I can't understand is anyone who continues to embrace the lie at this point.
I expect that Long Covid may be the next thing they use to try to scare us into compliance; should happen just in time for the 2024 elections to be corrupted.
Hey fool. Pfizer admitted that the shots never worked and they had really bad side affects. These mrna shots and boosters WERE NEVER TESTED
What planet do you live on?
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by Calvin
Originally Posted by Swamplord
so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ?
He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread.
Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians.
Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted.
Spot on
You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads.
Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem.
One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ?
He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread.
Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians.
Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted.
Spot on
You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads.
Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem.
One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
Did your pea brain ever say to you, " why take an unproven vaccine for a sickness that kills .002% of the people who are infected'?
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Im never going forget what you did and all of the lies you pushed. You want everyone to forget you helped destroy millions of Americans lives and pushed dangerous government propaganda
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
I bet he still stands behind everything he said in the opening post of this thread.
Yep, so fuqk him.
Maybe the man should be given an opportunity to speak for himself without being tied to the stake and doused with gasoline before he even opens his mouth.
I don't believe in giving the obvious avowed leftist a break, but maybe our side would be strengthened by a little more willingness to try persuasion through reason rather than a blindfold and a cigarette for a misspoken word.
And NO, I am not pointing at anyone in particular nor am I excluding myself.
Sorry river, but we are way past trying to find common ground with anyone on the left. You need to understand the current landscape in america a little better
mRNA vaccine is not approved for use on animals in the United States. That crap was rolled out for humans with out the normal years of trial before approval.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
No, I have worked for myself since I sold my first company in 2003. However, I know several executives in the both the healthcare and insurance industries and we talk shop when we get together As a group, the people on the healthcare side were surprised when they were specifically allow to get higher levels of insurance reimbursement just by giving COVID as a possible contributing factor without the patient actually having to test positive for COVID. The guys on the insurance side felt like they were getting screwed, but there was nothing that they could do about the Federal programs that they were administering. Most private insurance carriers required a positive COVID diagnosis to get a higher level of reimbursement.
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
It's even worse than that... the government shut down the hospitals, to make room for the anticipated rush of covid patients... the hospitals lost millions, so they had to go along with the hoax in order to get government money to survive, and in the process they made more money than ever, partnering with a government that prints trillions is a profitable gig.... Look at the bright side... no more mean tweets...
This isn't a beat session for Doc Rocket. I think he is a decent, intelligent human being and has obviously help many in his career.
But if the mentality of the majority of Drs doesn't change this will happen again. Everyone knows that our entire healthcare system is not run by science but by very well funded pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer and big health insurance companies. The entire Obamacare system guidelines were written by their lobbyists
Doc if you want to Pm me. I have a very good friend who is a 25 year Pediatrician , She attended Washington University med school and she is very bright and caring, who currently meets around the country with other Drs to discuss how to deal with covid fallout and how to stop mandatory covid vaxes for children. Every conference she attends she has parents approach her bringing photos of their dead children who died of heart issues and clots after the vax.
Id love to introduce you to her. She advised many Drs are beginning to rethink their stance
well no schit. they wanted to obviously over state the number of covid patients to induce hysteria in the American public
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by ribka
You work in hospital administration now?
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by RiverRider
I had a coworker who died in the hospital in 2021, allegedly from covid. I very strongly suspect that what killed him and many others was not the virus, but the treatment rendered and the withholding of PROPER treatment because of the politics involved.
I lost a dear uncle in the fall of 2021 due to ongoing complications following a surgery that was delayed about a year after the diagnosis because of covid. He could have had the surgery without incisions the day of the diagnosis, but the condition worsened in the year that he had to wait and that technique was no longer an option. He suffered for eleven months after a very invasive procedure.
As far as I am concerned, the medical establishment is guilty of innumerable counts of murder for profit.
This is a direct result of the government dictating policy to hospital administrators aka Obama Care.
It's also the result of the Feds placing a bounty on patients.
The incestuous relation between the FDA and Big Pharma has finally been exposed to millions of citizens.
The collaboration of the federal government,big pharma,fake news and social media intentionally misinformed millions of citizens.
The confluence of all of these entities has resulted in the deaths and future illness of untold number of citizen.
Please explain your comment that "the Feds placing a bounty on patients".
Are you claiming that some Federal agencies are paying physicians to kill people? If so, which agencies and what mechanism are they using to pay this "bounty"?
Paying hospitals large sums of money for covid deaths was never a good idea. Hospitals got paid big money if your ass died. Get your head out of your ass
Healthcare providers were being paid a premium reimbursement for care provided to patients who might have had COVID, even if they were never actually diagnosed with COVID. Keeping a patient alive and in the hospital for as long as possible would have generated the most reimbursement income, as once the patient died there were no more services to be billed for. Having actually worked on both sides of the health insurance business, for healthcare systems and for the insurance industry, I understand the ins and outs of the way healthcare is billed for and paid better than most.
No, I have worked for myself since I sold my first company in 2003. However, I know several executives in the both the healthcare and insurance industries and we talk shop when we get together As a group, the people on the healthcare side were surprised when they were specifically allow to get higher levels of insurance reimbursement just by giving COVID as a possible contributing factor without the patient actually having to test positive for COVID. The guys on the insurance side felt like they were getting screwed, but there was nothing that they could do about the Federal programs that they were administering. Most private insurance carriers required a positive COVID diagnosis to get a higher level of reimbursement.
so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ?
He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread.
Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians.
Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted.
Spot on
You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads.
Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem.
One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
Did your pea brain ever say to you, " why take an unproven vaccine for a sickness that kills .002% of the people who are infected'?
Because when I got the shots there was no good statistical data to go on and because a board certified physician who I know and trust recommended it.
I doubt that your 0.002% number is accurate.
There are around 330M U.S. citizens. Add 15M for non-citizens, documented and undocumented.
Out of $345M, the WHO shows 103,266,404 confirmed COVID cases and 1,124,063 deaths.
Assuming that these numbers are reasonable, 29.93% of the population would have had confirmed COVID diagnoses and 1.09% of those people died. COVID deaths as a percent of the total population would be 0.32%.
And you're obviously too stupid to not believe WHO and CDD numbers. I played college baseball with a stud of a guy from San Antonio. He was 6'4" and 225, in shape, solid. 40 years later he died "from Covid" according to his death certificate. What it didn't say is that he was a diabetic and weighed 350lbs.
So according to your numbers, even if we were stupid enough to believe the .32% number, you'd take the jab again when 99.68% of inflicted patients die? Seriously?
Big Pharma is pushing the pro-vaccine propaganda. Big Pharma is getting filthy rich off vaccine sales. Since most Americans aren't taught critical thinking, they trust what the talking heads on television tell them. Most media revenues come from Big Pharma.
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
BULLSHÏT Doc was a condescending POS Not just any POS But if a POS ate a POS and that POS took a shït He’d be that POS
well, you were one of cowardly fools who very enthusiastically swallowed Biden's propaganda and who pushed the vax that never worked and did not stop the spread of covid and killed thousands of Americans and more will die including my healthy mother
Im never going to forget what scum bags like you did during the fake pandemic. You showed your true colors as a weak minded gullible moron
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by ribka
Im never going forget what you did and all of the lies you pushed. You want everyone to forget you helped destroy millions of Americans lives and pushed dangerous government propaganda
Pretty sure President Trump was a proponent of the vax, proud of his facilitating the speed of its creation and and still is
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
I agree with Mannlicher on this... I have had many public exchanges and a few PM exchanges with DocRocket and he has always been kind, and respectful.
We disagreed to an extreme on the covid issue. But had respectful and interesting conversations about it.
Put yourself in his shoes... he was on the frontline, some of his patients were dying! the medical establishment he devoted his life to was giving him false info... I bet he has lost some trust along with the rest of us!
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
Well then he should come on here and say he was wrong.
Big Pharma is pushing the pro-vaccine propaganda. Big Pharma is getting filthy rich off vaccine sales. Since most Americans aren't taught critical thinking, they trust what the talking heads on television tell them. Most media revenues come from Big Pharma.
Big Pharma now runs about 80 per cent of ads now on tv, social media. They spend billions in marketing. Most of the time you have no idea what the drug is or does , just old boomers walking on a beach, or playing with grandchildren
And don't forget the millions of Indians saved when the WHO quietly ceased the Indian outbreak within weeks using their Ivermectin "Medicine Kit". And then immediately covered up what they had done and how they stopped one of the largest Covid outbreaks during the height of the pandemic.
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars. All anyone had to do was spend 20 minutes on PubMed.com to understand why Moderna never achieved a successful Phase I clinical trial with the drug. Little wonder why Moderna was NEVER successful in bringing their technology to market until they were given complete and total immunity for what they were about to do to unsuspecting people. Robert Malone knew the dangers and was immediately silenced, ostracized, and marginalized as a radical anti-vaxer.
If Trump would have not gone along with the narrative, every death, covid or otherwise would have been blamed on him..... and the morons would have demanded his head!
If Trump would have not gone along with the narrative, every death, covid or otherwise would have been blamed on him..... and the morons would have demanded his head!
Looks like a few morons here already are!
Originally Posted by irfubar
Ooop's... looks like Caligula just earned a spot on 12344 list of shame... why am I not surprised?
Trump has state that we should immediately end the war in Iraq. Are you going to continue to support give away over a 100 billion of us Tax payer monies to Globalists with a NAZi army( well documented) in order to bankrupt America? lol
Call your buddy Burns and wake him up from his drunken stupor
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Spot on.
You’re not voting for President Trump either?
When did Trump try to mandate the vaccine, dipschidt?
I don’t see the word “mandate” in the quotes. “Pushed” is and unfortunately Trump did that by endorsing them
Trump has state that we should immediately end the war in Iraq. Are you going to continue to support give away over a 100 billion of us Tax payer monies to Globalists with a NAZi army( well documented) in order to bankrupt America? lol
Call your buddy Burns and wake him up from his drunken stupor
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by STRSWilson
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Spot on.
You’re not voting for President Trump either?
When did Trump try to mandate the vaccine, dipschidt?
I don’t see the word “mandate” in the quotes. “Pushed” is and unfortunately Trump did that by endorsing them
So you’re not voting for him?
Why argue with this pinhead, ribka? When he twists words he can't even do it in a way that would support his argument.
The problem isn't the primary decision of vax or not. It's the progressive after-thought.
The anti-vaxxers pretty much support allowing folks to make their own decision, based on trust in government.
The vaxxers start thinking they did their part, now everyone else should do the same.
But........when the sheep voluntarily sprint to the slaughterhouse to save themselves........the anti's really shouldn't be stuck with the bill.
Think about guns. The anti's are not content with simply not owning a gun......they prefer no one own a gun. Pro-gunnies think it's a constitutional right......and purchase their own guns.
Think about abortion. The abortion rights crowd believes it's a constitutional right, but that crowd wasn't content with paying for their own abortions. Currently, all the pro-lifers must pay for their abortions.......via Obamacare.
How about........you sign a release, take whatever vaccine you'd like, AND PAY FOR IT?
Leave me out of anything, before and after.
Apologize in advance, for a serious post.
Originally Posted by irfubar
I agree with Mannlicher on this... I have had many public exchanges and a few PM exchanges with DocRocket and he has always been kind, and respectful.
We disagreed to an extreme on the covid issue. But had respectful and interesting conversations about it.
Put yourself in his shoes... he was on the frontline, some of his patients were dying! the medical establishment he devoted his life to was giving him false info... I bet he has lost some trust along with the rest of us!
I believe Doc is a good man and he will continue to have my respect... you are free to draw your own conclusions
To this day, if you search FDA+ivermectin+covid you are led to a page with a nurse standing next to a horse. No one in the states think it helped anyone anywhere, yet those same people have no good explanation for covids lack of impact on Africa where the drug is in widespread used for fighting parasites. Africa has a population of 1.2 billion, yet only had 250k covid deaths. Four times the population of the US, 1/4 of the deaths, but it couldn't have been Ivermectin according to nearly all the "experts".
A big part of Africa being so low was age. Most victims in the western world were > 60 and Africa is the worlds youngest population with a median age of just 19. As a reference, the US is pretty young at 38 with most of the rest of the world older peaking with Japan @ 48 (https://www.worlddata.info/average-age.php)
Covid also doesn't do well in hot or moist environments. That's seasonally certainly a lot of places in Africa.
I don't think ivermectin had much to do with it.
lol
Millions of doses of ivermectin were given in South America, Mexico, India, Japan and were very successful to treat covid
Millions and millions of lives were saved in Africa by Ivermectin the past 4 decades and against parasitic and viral diseases
Why did US pharmacists refuse to fill ivermectin and hydroxy prescriptions during covid? I wonder how many innocent Americans died because of these fools?
Funny the same pharmacists filled prescriptions for the deadly Vioxx drug with out hesitation for years without a concern. How many of the tens of millions of people given ivermectin, a year die from ivermectin?
And don't forget the millions of Indians saved when the WHO quietly ceased the Indian outbreak within weeks using their Ivermectin "Medicine Kit". And then immediately covered up what they had done and how they stopped one of the largest Covid outbreaks during the height of the pandemic.
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars. All anyone had to do was spend 20 minutes on PubMed.com to understand why Moderna never achieved a successful Phase I clinical trial with the drug. Little wonder why Moderna was NEVER successful in bringing their technology to market until they were given complete and total immunity for what they were about to do to unsuspecting people. Robert Malone knew the dangers and was immediately silenced, ostracized, and marginalized as a radical anti-vaxer.
SARS-CoV-2 - The day Science died.
That article is a great read. Thank you for posting
so where is this super intelligent Dog Rocket now ?
Did he clot shot out ?
He still shows up a bit. Poster #2 died of COVID and the hat was passed here for it. Crazy thread.
Ethan Edwards most likely died from mistreatment by the hospital and their physicians.
Covid has 99% + survival rate with minimal treatment.With the dangerous protocol practiced by most doctors,the survival rates plummeted.
Spot on
You two should probably stop guessing and read the threads.
Mark Spillman died on his own terms. He chose not to get the COVID shots. Maybe he would have survived if he'd had the shots, maybe not, but he made a choice that he felt was the best choice for him. If he was mistreated by the hospital and physicians, his surviving family should bring suit for wrongful death and let the legal system work the problem.
One of my friends is a board certified infectious disease specialist. I asked for his recommendations and took the shots. So far I haven't been diagnosed with COVID and haven't noticed any side effects from the shots. I don't worry about dying, GOD will take me when he wants me. Everyone eventually dies, so why worry about something that may be delayed, but can't be stopped?
Did your pea brain ever say to you, " why take an unproven vaccine for a sickness that kills .002% of the people who are infected'?
Because when I got the shots there was no good statistical data to go on and because a board certified physician who I know and trust recommended it.
I doubt that your 0.002% number is accurate.
There are around 330M U.S. citizens. Add 15M for non-citizens, documented and undocumented.
Out of $345M, the WHO shows 103,266,404 confirmed COVID cases and 1,124,063 deaths.
Assuming that these numbers are reasonable, 29.93% of the population would have had confirmed COVID diagnoses and 1.09% of those people died. COVID deaths as a percent of the total population would be 0.32%.
The fact that you are still using WHO numbers to back up anything is laughable at best
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Spot on.
You’re not voting for President Trump either?
This is f uckin dumb and a response I would expect from democrats. Instead of trying to explain why you supported the poison shot, you just roll with the trump supported it bullchit, so what now
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Spot on.
You’re not voting for President Trump either?
This is f uckin dumb and a response I would expect from democrats. Instead of trying to explain why you supported the poison shot, you just roll with the trump supported it bullchit, so what now
He's waiting for Burns to send him a link to a tired old meme.
Anyone who pushed the untested mRNA treatment on the population should be behind bars.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Spot on.
You’re not voting for President Trump either?
This is f uckin dumb and a response I would expect from democrats. Instead of trying to explain why you supported the poison shot, you just roll with the trump supported it bullchit, so what now
He's waiting for Burns to send him a link to a tired old meme.
A huge chunk of the "COVID-19 Deaths" were deaths resulting from giving patients Remdesivir and putting them on ventilators, instead of what had become known the world over as a very effective treatment, i.e., Ivermectin. Instead, they made the known effective treatment almost impossible to acquire.
Ventilators ..... are modern day guillotines, nothing more
they used them to execute people on a massive scale, the covid executions are part of the population reduction scheme .... genocide
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Once again the inserted letter boy agent 00seventeen is here to do damage control should the truth be disseminated to the uncouth & unworthy citizen slaves
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Once again the inserted letter boy agent 00seventeen is here to do damage control should the truth be disseminated to the uncouth & unworthy citizen slaves
It's the kind of language you use when you would like people to conveniently forget about the roll you played in ruining a nation.
I don’t know Doc, have seen his post for years, he was one of the good guys on the fire, like a lot of the older members, I probably started reading on here around 08. I do know that I never believed or trusted the Government or the Medical Community on any of this, and am very bitter at Doctors and what the did in pushing the jab to children especially. I also know that Doc Roc would never intentionally hurt another human, he was just to close to the BS to see.
So the message here is, if you don't have an MD, you aren't smart or educated enough to have a real opinion.
Sounds more like , be aware there are folks that have commodified people's fear and ignorance and actively seek to exploited it with a barrage of misinformation driving traffic to their web sites.
You think? We shut down the entire world over a condition 99.7% people survive IF they catch it. I can’t imagine any commodified fear and ignorance taking part in that reasoning. Lol
Well, it kills a lot higher percentage of people if you do as Fauci says and make them stay home until they turn blue, instead of treating early with Hydroxychloroquine or Ivermectin or budesonide or if you only count the old people that get it..
Thats my initial problem with it. Refuse to treat. BS. Makes one wonder WHY.
Anyway we know for sure masks dont' work. We knew that ahead of time so why force things?
beyond that I fail to understand how people that didn't take the shots are getting rich. I"m sure some are.
But as others have said pro shot folks including big Pharma are richer.
I'm not against shots. But did not trust these and figured our chances were better without. Or as good. Which has been the case so far. And most that have taken the shots that we know are not taking more. And not getting sick.
Neither here or there but all the folks we know that never took them, only one got the stuff.
Regardless talking about water under the bridge is a total waste.
Rita is as gooberment troll spending time here to create havoc
You pushed the harmful untested vax for years on here and shilled for Biden and Faucci. I warned against the covid scam and suggested Vit D, ivermectin, FLCCC protocol in June 2020. Go a head and check my actual posts out in 2020
Ill just let all of your globalist influenced post speak for themselves. You've pushed the fake vax that never worked over and over on here and have never posted one fishing or hunting related topic
nice try lying cowardly boomer lol
Of course you've been caught lying now and want everyone to forget about
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
The pathetic old cowardly anti American kahhnut 700H wants everyone on here to forget that he has helped destroy millions of good hard working honest American lives
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by 700LH
Rita is as gooberment troll spending time here to create havoc
Yes.
It's high time we come together as a nation.
We need to forget about all the old people who died alone, isolated from their families.
We need to forget about the ruined economy and the ruined work ethic.
We should get over the fact that the children won't ever get the year back that they lost.
And you know....our education system was too good anyway.
People lost jobs, careers, livelihoods. People were harmed by the vaxx that was forced on them.
That 260 coward can't even vote in an election, much less run a hospital. I feel like I could be a poster child for this Covid19 fraud. I have an auto immune disease, and was put on an AI drug to suppress my hyper AI reactions, this drug being hydroxychloraquine which just so happens to be the drug Africans have been taking for decades to fight malaria. I refused the jab in spite of my rheumatologist's rec to get it. In short, I contacted Covid, continued the hydroxy and added a tube of horse past Ivermectin for a week. Result was nothing more than an insignificant cold. In the meantime, my Dr. got it twice in spite of jabs and boosters. He hasn't mentioned any "vaccination" to me in over a year.
The covtards like antelope sniper are always amusing.
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
Nice try with the "accuse them of doing ... what we are doing "
you have a history on the Campfire of being a .gov shill, always pushing globalist ideals
how much are Soros & Schwab paying you ? or are you a simple tool of the agency that recruited you ?
another explanation is you are a mindless, lobotomized simpleton who parrots what his handlers insert in his head
nothing you have contributed, regarding covid, the vaxx or Ukraine is an original thought of common sense, everything you push is generated by someone else who owns you
nice try at the deflection though, agent 00seventeen !
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
So the 'fire was united, and is united, not considering these Covid threads? You're a proven fool, libtard, covtard, and overall dumbasss. Congrats.
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
Nice try with the "accuse them of doing ... what we are doing "
you have a history on the Campfire of being a .gov shill, always pushing globalist ideals
how much are Soros & Schwab paying you ? or are you a simple tool of the agency that recruited you ?
another explanation is you are a mindless, lobotomized simpleton who parrots what his handlers insert in his head
nothing you have contributed, regarding covid, the vaxx or Ukraine is an original thought of common sense, everything you push is generated by someone else who owns you
nice try at the deflection though, agent 00seventeen !
Antelope Sniper was gone for awhile... then he came back as a pro Ukraine covtard.... I suspect his account has been hi jacked... probably by a .gov bot
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
You helped elect Biden then. Like I said, you're a coward.
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
You helped elect Biden then. Like I said, you're a coward.
Hahaha!
There are so many of them too.
I will never be convinced that Biden didn't win.
Thanks to all these "conservatives" and fence sitters.
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
You helped elect Biden then. Like I said, you're a coward.
Hahaha!
There are so many of them too.
I will never be convinced that Biden didn't win.
Thanks to all these "conservatives" and fence sitters.
Man. Biden didn't get more votes than Obama. There are numerous statistical "markers" that also prove Trump won. I'm not spelling it out because it's easily found in public space. Seth Keshel. Hint
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
So the 'fire was united, and is united, not considering these Covid threads? You're a proven fool, libtard, covtard, and overall dumbasss. Congrats.
I can pull dozens of threads from this dumb anti American globalist praising Faucci and Biden's covid policies
Im just using your years of Faucci inspired covid propaganda to prove what an Anti American pos you were.
These are your posts, your own words. No one on here is going to forget what anti Anti American traitor you were.
Of course you want everyone just ignore your dozens and dozen of disinformation posts to cause chaos in America
Again based on your posts if appears you have never taken a science class.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
So the 'fire was united, and is united, not considering these Covid threads? You're a proven fool, libtard, covtard, and overall dumbasss. Congrats.
Might want to watch your blood pressure. Wouldn't want you to keel over because you let some Russian Bot got under your skin.
I called out the covid scam in the beginning of April 2020 when I saw globalist anti American bots like antelope sniper spreading disinformation and telling every to get the untested mrna vax. I posted the very safe and cheap effective FLCC covid protocols in June of 2020 while you were spreading covid hysteria and disinformation daily in some cases.
Anyone with an 8th grade science class knew you immediealtey you were an idiot who was spreading lies . And the science proved it scum bag
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Once more "Ribka" resurrects and old thread to divide The Fire against it's self.
This is the correct response:
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Doc Rocket and I have always had a divergent view of the necessity of the jab, and of the efficacy of the shots. That difference of thought has never effected the respect and esteem I have for him. I followed my own path, and did not get any of the mRNA shots. Didn't wear a mask either. Never got the 'rona. Still buds with the Doc though. That will never change.
well said.
The rest of you just got played.
Here's an idiot's take on the covid vaccine
Re: Looking for video about vaccine harms kk alaska #15923428 03/21/21 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,218 Colorado Originally Posted by kk alaska A couple of days ago there was a video by a leading vaccine DR who claims that the vaccine will only help current Covid 19 strains not the future and will strengthen the virus.
Can't find any links?
Based on how the vaccine's targeted, I'm not convinced that's true. I got the Phizer version yesterday and it specifically targets the spike proteins that allow it to attach to cells, so it would take some significant mutations in just the right locations for a new strain to evade the vaccine. One of the strength of the new vaccine technology is it's ability to target a wider range of viruses than the traditional methods. I'm looking forward to what they can do vs. the standard flu and rhino viruses with this technology. If we can get rid of those as well, that would be a huge silver lining for this ordeal.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
You helped elect Biden then. Like I said, you're a coward.
Hahaha!
There are so many of them too.
I will never be convinced that Biden didn't win.
Thanks to all these "conservatives" and fence sitters.
Man. Biden didn't get more votes than Obama. There are numerous statistical "markers" that also prove Trump won. I'm not spelling it out because it's easily found in public space. Seth Keshel. Hint
I am not prepared to let these wormy còcksuckers off the hook that easy.
Had these phoney sunsabitches done their job and voted....Biden couldn't have stolen it.
March 2020 globalist Antelope sniper, who has never killed an antelope, excited for the experimental mrna vax
#14670835 03/17/20 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,225 Colorado Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter Originally Posted by battue Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
That's funny.
Human trial for a vaccine started today.
First Patient Dosed in Moderna's COVID-19 Vaccine Trial
nside the U.S., the first clinical trial for a vaccine to the novel coronavirus that causes COVID-19 began today. It is mRNA-1273, developed by Moderna with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID). The product was shipped to NIAID on February 25.
Is this your programmers new play book, use the virus to divide the fire against itself? Video's of Z from the time he performed as a comedian no longer working for you? Not getting the desired negative spike in your sentiment measures?
So the 'fire was united, and is united, not considering these Covid threads? You're a proven fool, libtard, covtard, and overall dumbasss. Congrats.
Might want to watch your blood pressure. Wouldn't want you to keel over because you let some Russian Bot got under your skin.
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
Like the guy here that composed a list of all the dipschitts that voted for biden and owned it, I wish someone would make a list of all the sheepish, virtue signaling puzzies so scared of death that they ran out and lined up for the poison shot (and then bragged about it.)
There should also be designated people to go to the funerals of the blood clot victims to walk up to their widow and kids and say "sorry but your dad was a fuggin idiot."
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
you pushed the MRNA vax in March 202O. Plus dozens of covid disinformation threads
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Hey vaccine promoting ghoul
read this recent study from the FDA and PFIZER the MRNA vaccine does to pregnant women. Are you proud promoting this?
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
you pushed the MRNA vax in March 202O. Plus dozens of covid disinformation threads
Go away creep
And there it is, the quiet part out loud, trying to run off anyone who isn't philosophically pure enough.
By your standard not even Donald Fùcking Trump is sufficiently pure to post here.
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
Here's another covid winner. Again Have you ever taken a science class?
Both of these drugs have been used for years and years on millions and millions of people and are safe, cheap effective . Yet you you wanted more studies but thought the unstudied MRNA vax was fine to use on humans?
On another note Remdesivir cost $3000 did not work well, caused severe health damage to many patients
But used extensively during covid
Re: More On Hydroxychloroquine + Azithromycin From The French Study . ftbt #14691745 03/22/20 Online Content antelope_sniper Campfire Ranger A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 29,230 Colorado Open, non-random study.
We need a random study, and quick.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by gunchamp
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
you pushed the MRNA vax in March 202O. Plus dozens of covid disinformation threads
Go away creep
And there it is, the quiet part out loud, trying to run off anyone who isn't philosophically pure enough.
By your standard not even Donald Fùcking Trump is sufficiently pure to post here.
I think they were referred to as evil because they caused so much chaos and grief in so many human's lives
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by 348winchester
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Well intended= The road to hell is paved with good intensions. I'm no doctor but from day one the whole thing did not live up to the smell test. Now those who bought into it hook line and sinker. Then pushed for others to follow their lead, all while bashing those who felt something wasn't right and were called anti vaxxers, conspiracy theorist for holding a different opinion. The shoe is on the other foot. Enjoy the fruits of thy labor. No animosity I hold for anyone.
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you Fools ....
since you bring up the Bible.. go look this up yourself
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. "
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
Wow, so brave, so bold.
How did that make you feel? Did it give you a bit of a dopamine hit by creating an outgroup and attacking someone in it?
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you Fools ....
since you bring up the Bible.. go look this up yourself
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. "
Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
Wow, so brave, so bold.
How did that make you feel? Did it give you a bit of a dopamine hit by creating an outgroup and attacking someone in it?
I feel great. I don't have to look at a person like you in the mirror every day. You're more of a worm than I even thought.
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you Fools ....
since you bring up the Bible.. go look this up yourself
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. "
Whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. Matthew 5:22
As usual ....
gaytheists take scripture out of context in an attempt to fling poo at everyone around them, like the devolved apes that they are
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
Wow, so brave, so bold.
How did that make you feel? Did it give you a bit of a dopamine hit by creating an outgroup and attacking someone in it?
I feel great. I don't have to look at a person like you in the mirror every day. You're more of a worm than I even thought.
What makes you so sure.
Are you judging the man, or an internet strawman created in your own mind?
Since I've never met you in person..........what you portray here is who you are. Perception is reality, and you fail miserably. Stick to the subject. You're a covtard and coward, and won't admit it.
Had Covid twice. Was it good? No. Didn’t come close to killing me. No shots for me but to each their own. Nobody is making any money off of me for not getting the shot. Edk
I have copped it twice, second was meh...but the first, whilst it didn't kill me I would have gladly kicked the bastard that designed it to death.
You should qualify your statement with the fact that you've been vaxxed and boosted.
Actually you condescending lying cunt, I had the two initial shots after I got out of the hospice after a number of my internal organs shut down due to a blood infection. I took the two initial jabs as a nasty cold would have knocked me over.
I did not get any boosters...further, the jab does not preclude anyone from catching covid.
added, what this whole affair has given me is a definite distrust of the medical fraternity and government...particularly the US government.
Personally I am judging an anti science idiot who posted a hundred or more very harmful posts spreading covid disinformation
One thing you can observe universally is that atheists lack humility and always overestimate their own intellect.
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by JGRaider
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by 348winchester
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
Unfortunately for you AS, you prove quite often what an ignorant tool/fool you are all by yourself. Be a man and own your position.
And what does your Bible say about calling people Fool?
The Bible calls people like you fools too. Now own your position you coward.
Wow, so brave, so bold.
How did that make you feel? Did it give you a bit of a dopamine hit by creating an outgroup and attacking someone in it?
I feel great. I don't have to look at a person like you in the mirror every day. You're more of a worm than I even thought.
What makes you so sure.
Are you judging the man, or an internet strawman created in your own mind?
Well, this shouldn't be a surprise... most of the anti-Covid vaccine propaganda hitting the innanet these days comes from a small group of antivaccine propagandists. They have a huge social media following. They have no actual scientific credibility. But because the vast majority of Amerians have received virtually no science education by the time they finish high school, our population is defenseless against these frauds.
The vast majority of the misinformation about the SARS-CoV2 vaccines we are being fed through social media and the popular press is coming from this small but very wealthy group of anti-vax propagandists. Make no mistake. The anti-vax business has become a multimillion dollar profit-making industry that a few people, like the dozen named miscreants in this article, are getting very rich from.
Unfortunately, there are many people who are buying into this pseudoscientific garbage who repeat it ad nauseum, including some well-known members on this here forum. I doubt they're getting rich by it, but they are certainly helping the Terrible Twelve make millions.
It is absolutely comical how DrRockets post absolutely describes the pro-vax govt/industrial complex but in an increased magnitude of at least 100.
IOW what he accused anti-vaxxers of is exactly what we now know the pro vac sets were guilty of and making 100+ fold more than the few people Doc was throwing stones at.
I know a guy who took every shot and every booster. He suddenly got pneumonia and it killed him. Is it shot related ? We will never know but I'm sure Pfizer and Moderna are thankful for his participation in their experiment.
It is absolutely comical how DrRockets post absolutely describes the pro-vax govt/industrial complex but in an increased magnitude of at least 100.
IOW what he accused anti-vaxxers of is exactly what we now know the pro vac sets were guilty of and making 100+ fold more than the few people Doc was throwing stones at.
As someone else stated, this aged very poorly.
Ya know, something I have noticed over the last couple of decades: speculation is fun---or can be, but often at the end of the day the most correct thing that can be said is "we shall see."
Intuition can be great and guesses are free, but like Eastwood said in one of his many great films, "a man has got to know his limitations." You don't know until you know.
Have you noticed, the provaxxers double down on defense of their position? never do they apologize or admit they made a wrong decision or followed the wrong advice.
I didn't vote for POTUS in 2020, but have voted for POTUS from 1976 thru 2016. I didn't think that either DJT or JRB, Jr. was worthy of being POTUS, so I didn't vote for either of them.
I never claimed that I ran a hospital, I was just an AVP over departments that handled billing, setting fees, filing claims, posting payment and adjustment, that sort of stuff for 3 different medical centers. As soon as sold my side hustle, the $400K business that I sold for $9M, I didn't feel that it was right for me to fill a well paying position when I didn't need the income.
Whether to get the COVID shots is a personal choice. I don't care what other people choose to do and don't understand why they care what I do.
You helped elect Biden then. Like I said, you're a coward.
I live in Nebraska's 1st Congressional District.
Nebraska allocates Electoral College votes for the 3 Congressional Districts to the candidate for POTUS who wins the District. Nebraska has 5 EC votes, 3 for the Congressional Districts and 2 for the Senators. Joe Biden won the Nebraska 1st District and received 1 EC vote. Donald Trump won the other 2 Congressional Districts and the State as a whole, so he received 4 EC votes. Withholding my vote from both Biden and Trump in 2020 didn't help Biden or hurt Trump. My non-vote counted the same as the 6M people in California who voted for Trump and produced 0 EC votes in the process. Even if California allocated EC votes like Nebraska does, Trump would only have received 7 of their 55 EC votes.
I am hardly a coward. I strongly dislike both Joe Biden and Donald Trump. I don't think that either man is worthy of holding the office of POTUS. If they are their parties' candidates for POTUS in 2024 I'll withhold my vote from them again and write in John N. Kennedy.
Anti vaxxer here, still a pureblood, financially not rich but by the grace of God, conservative values. and ivermectin I'm still alive. That is pretty rich, fug all the woke, bud lite drinking vaxxer asswipes as well as anyone who votes Democrat. Hope I covered it all. Mb
people that got the vax to keep their job but didnt want it.... they get a pass I get it....people that got it and push it on others and single them out for ridicule....they can fugg off and die.
what I dont get is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
people that got the vax to keep their job but didnt want it.... they get a pass I get it....people that got it and push it on others and single them out for ridicule....they can fugg off and die.
what I dont get
...is the core point in all of this vaxx/plandemic [bleep].
Originally Posted by Bob_mt
is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
so where's the anger? ...bob
I suspect that all of the people that he and his policies FORCED to take the vax (or risk of losing their jobs/livelihood ) are extremely pissed at him.
(I'll give you a hint.. thats a damned small number)
Have you noticed, the provaxxers double down on defense of their position? never do they apologize or admit they made a wrong decision or followed the wrong advice.
Astute observation. And accurate across numerous topics, beyond vaxx.
it did, but it also illustrates how nothing changes.
I am sure Doc is a nice guy and has helped tons of people in his life. But this thread was fear based, and the OP was complaining about an ant problem in the kitchen while the house was on fire.
Rita is as gooberment troll spending time here to create havoc
Yes.
It's high time we come together as a nation.
We need to forget about all the old people who died alone, isolated from their families.
We need to forget about the ruined economy and the ruined work ethic.
We should get over the fact that the children won't ever get the year back that they lost.
And you know....our education system was too good anyway.
People lost jobs, careers, livelihoods. People were harmed by the vaxx that was forced on them.
Time to forget all that and toe the line.
Dam good post.
DITTO
I think about this regularly. Especially the part about the kids who lost a year as we are bombarded by the screams and cries that not allowing adults to nudge children into a decision to be neutered, is feeding horrible psychological issues and creates a risk for suicide.
Where was the concern for ALL THE CHILDREN's mental health a couple years ago when they shut down schools and isolated tens-of-millions of kids???? This compared to the few hundred that are facing a mental challenge in the form of dysphoria.
people that got the vax to keep their job but didnt want it.... they get a pass I get it....people that got it and push it on others and single them out for ridicule....they can fugg off and die.
what I dont get is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
so where's the anger? ...bob
Bob, You are pointing out an uncomfortable truth most pro Trumper's are choosing to ignore. The lack of response to your question kinda proves my point.
I will try to answer as I see it.
Trump was known for being the "you're fired" guy. His claim to fame was he surrounded himself with the best , brightest , most ambitious etc....
Well he got to Washington and had to choose a cabinet and advisors etc... he took this on as a business man. He assumed everyone would share his vision of "MAGA"
He was used to the private sector, he didn't understand the snake pit/cesspool that comprised the political class. He had to choose from the same recycled swamp dwellers that rotated in and out of these positions with each changing administration.
These people could care less about "MAGA" they existed to expand the scope and power of the bureaucracy.
This mentality is foreign in the private business sector. Backstabbing snakes are generally weeded out and fired in Trumps world.
The entire swamp was stabbing him in the back, they certainly didn't share his agenda or vision.
Covid was the perfect example, they used it to finish him off. He was between a rock and hard spot. If he would have downplayed it as he started to do, every death covid or not would be hung around his neck... he would have been vilified until the end of time. He really didn't have a choice.
I and many others believe Trump is a very smart guy and is capable of learning, especially from his mistakes. You have to have that ability to succeed as he has in the private sector.
We believe if he gets re-elected he will go scorched earth on the swamp.
All that being said , he seems to be our only hope and willing to take the arrows fighting the swamp... not sure anyone else could stand up to the assault the way he has.
This thread did not age very well LOL! Is DocrocketMengele still on this forum btw? Or like many Vax pushers did he disappear into the night like a fart in the wind? Lol
Is this now your measure of a man, his well intended position on a single topic that did not agree with yours?
For me at least, I don't dis people who had a clear belief and followed it. Promoted said idea when asked about it.
I do not care for people whe denigrated others with a different idea and particularly condescended to them because they were educationally inferior etc. People who got on their high horse and whipped the fear to a frenzy and then belittled anyone who didn't fall in line can KMA
what I dont get is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
so where's the anger? ...bob
My view on this,
Trump never pushed it, he recommended it but never pushed it upon those that didn't want it. We also know he was lied to by the same people who lied to us. Trump is not perfect but he is our only chance.
So far he's the only presidential candidate I've seen that's not bought and paid for.
what I dont get is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
so where's the anger? ...bob
My view on this,
Trump never pushed it, he recommended it but never pushed it upon those that didn't want it. We also know he was lied to by the same people who lied to us. Trump is not perfect but he is our only chance.
So far he's the only presidential candidate I've seen that's not bought and paid for.
Sounds right to me.
Those who vote for a candidate and expect perfection once in he's in office hold unrealistic expectations. Trump made mistakes. Champions don't win every game, they just win more than their opponents.
and at some point, we need to reflect on folks back a few years ago, probably the majority of folks, had a trusting, or at least predisposition to extend some measure of trust, to government. with the benefit of experience and hind sight, a huge number of folks have tumbled to the opinion that trust in government has probably always been misplaced.
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
you pushed the MRNA vax in March 202O. Plus dozens of covid disinformation threads
Go away creep
And there it is, the quiet part out loud, trying to run off anyone who isn't philosophically pure enough.
By your standard not even Donald Fùcking Trump is sufficiently pure to post here.
The purity cycle is certainly on massive display here.
what I dont get is why dosent any give trump sh'it about his view and stance on the vax?
why is he spared the anger that everyone else receives?
he takes credit for fast tracking it....he took it....he recommends others to take it....basically you would think to hear him talk its all on him that we have it.
so where's the anger? ...bob
My view on this,
Trump never pushed it, he recommended it but never pushed it upon those that didn't want it. We also know he was lied to by the same people who lied to us. Trump is not perfect but he is our only chance.
So far he's the only presidential candidate I've seen that's not bought and paid for.
Sounds right to me.
Those who vote for a candidate and expect perfection once in he's in office hold unrealistic expectations. Trump made mistakes. Champions don't win every game, they just win more than their opponents.
Why are the vaxxers so bitter........at the end of the pandemic?
Weird.
We know why. Because they were dumb enough to buy into the globalists lies and they willingly gave away their rights. Bunch of weak minded jackoffs. We wont ever let this drop. Ill bring this horrible things up constantly that our gov did and the dumb f ucks that went along with it. F uck them all!
Dude, Pay closer attention to who's stiring up shìt, who isn't, and how you're falling for it.
you pushed the MRNA vax in March 202O. Plus dozens of covid disinformation threads
Go away creep
And there it is, the quiet part out loud, trying to run off anyone who isn't philosophically pure enough.
By your standard not even Donald Fùcking Trump is sufficiently pure to post here.
The purity cycle is certainly on massive display here.
Leftist logic on display again... you guys are drawn to each other... fascinating to watch
I have copped it twice, second was meh...but the first, whilst it didn't kill me I would have gladly kicked the bastard that designed it to death.
Originally Posted by rte
You should qualify your statement with the fact that you've been vaxxed and boosted.
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Actually you condescending lying cunt, I had the two initial shots after I got out of the hospice after a number of my internal organs shut down due to a blood infection. I took the two initial jabs as a nasty cold would have knocked me over.
I did not get any boosters...further, the jab does not preclude anyone from catching covid.
added, what this whole affair has given me is a definite distrust of the medical fraternity and government...particularly the US government.
You forfeited your guns,that's what a whiny little c u n t would do.
You forfeited your bodily autonomy,that's what a whiny little c u n t would do.
You told the members,in a former post,that you got the clot shots because the coppers wouldn't allow to live your normal life without the shots.
PS: One injection is a vaccine,the second injection is a booster.
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) I crack me up. 
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