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Let me help you with your struggles Sparky. They are saying that they analyzed 812,000 posts that contained disinformation. I know this comes as a surprise to liberals, but saying something is wrong doesn't make it so. You'd think, in order to bolster their argument that they would give an example or two of what some of the disinformation was posted and support their claim that it is wrong with citations. That'ts what scientists are supposed to do. On top of that, if you are urging the platforms to strike the content and block the users, then from a moral standpoint, it would seem you'd want to support your claim that the content was wrong/incorrect/misinformation.

I know those concepts seem foreign to you.
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The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie.

The point they were making is they analyzed 812,000 posts with disinformation and they traced back to 12 people. Big numbers rarely lie. [/quote]

Are your fake alive relatives vaccinated yet? Or are we going to hear about their fake deaths next?

Sorry, fellas, I put that post up and then got sidetracked by a few pieces of Real Life, and had to step away for a bit. Looks like the usual suspects have jumped on with a will in my absence, no surprises there!

My short answer to your question, Raeford, is that I don’t think a person who’s had a documented case of COVID pneumonitis (or the bronchitis form, or possibly even the GI symptoms, although I’m a lot less sure of this last one) “needs” a vaccine at this time. Will they “need” one in a year? I dunno.

My reading of the actual science of this, as opposed to the rumor-repetitions that pass for information on most social media platforms including this one, is that a real infection is going to do a lot more than just trigger antibody production. Most important here is activation of cellular/T-cell immunity, which is a major component of your immune systems’s ability to recognize and fight off viral pathogens. Vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna aren’t expected to stimulate much of a cellular immunity at all, but that may prove out differently as we observe the effects over time. A lot of my expert colleagues think that those of us who were significantly exposed but didn’t get sick may have had robust antibody libraries on hand from other coronavirus infections, but also probably robust T-cell defenses.

This may be one of the few benefits of working ER medicine... we get exposed to every viral plague that runs through our communities, so we tend to not get sick very often. I was exposed to several very sick COVID cases early in the epidemic, in very high exposure environments... intubating them at close quarters, breathing their germs right in my face... and this was before we knew to put on spacesuits to protect ourselves. By rights I should have been one of the first infected, but I didn’t get so much as a sniffle.

I expect most folks who truly had COVID, as opposed to a sniffle and a positive lab test ( I have been as skeptical of the positive lab test results as many of you here, btw), will do fine for at least a year without a vaccine.

Disinformation, or opposing information?

I knew I could count on ya to jump right on this one, ee.

Sadly, I think the data mining is quite likely true. The named malefactors in the article are dry well known for playing fast and loose with facts, and the ones I recognize are affiliated with some very profitable “non-profit” organizations.

YMMV

Nobody knows because the science website passed up on the opportunity to provide science.

Are your fake alive relatives vaccinated yet? Or are we going to hear about their fake deaths next?
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When a liar quotes a lie, it doesn't make it true. It makes it lie squared.

No vouching here, amigo. Just passing on some info. The second organization named in the article, Antivax Watch, has been around for a while. They are an activist group as well, so you have to take their stuff with a healthy squint in your eye, but what I have read from them in the past has been sound.

The getting rich part is easy. Just copy the PETA model. They start a tax-exempt nonprofit, they pump out a lot of misinformation that attracts like-minded people, then they hit those folks with repeated fundraising efforts.

I knew you would. You’re welcome.

I'll go along with the 812,000 posts they claim contained disinformation coming from the same 12 sources. It was obvious to anyone who can read at a 6th grade level that I wasn't challenging that.

How do you know it was disinformation from the "science" websites article? You don't. All you know is that the left leaning organization that analyzed who was behind what they call misinformation labeled it misinformation.

It's not asking too much of a science website to add a little science to the discussion by demonstrating how any one or two of those posts were wrong.

812,000 posts from 12 IP addresses? I'll guarantee you there are BOTS and money flowing.

Yeah, that rings true all right. (Get it? Rings? Ringman? ) I crack me up.

Yeah, that is utter made-up bull s h I t, and you know it, and we all know it. I know hundreds who’ve had one of the various CoV2 vaccines. Zero deaths.

Go pizz up a rope.

lol... a doctor complaining about others making money off disease. Tell us doc, who do you think has made more, the covid peddlers or the vaccine sceptics?

Indeed.

What a coincidence! I’m loading 270’s today myself.

Good points, btw.

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You know, you and I are pretty close to agreement on this point, JoeBob. Except I think the number is probably a bit higher than 99.7%. YMMV

ER doctors are the best doctors.

Sorry I missed your question, Kingston. I don’t get on this forum as often as I might, I’m pretty busy with other stuff in RL and only stop in here every few days or so when I ah e time. I’ve tried to answer the question in another post, above.

As for the profitability of vaccine manufacture, I’m no expert and I certainly don’t have any Pfizer stock, but my understanding is that the profit margins for vaccine producers are pretty dismal, usually. However, given the vast international underwriting of the current pandemic, I expect the current vaccines are an exception to that rule.