Texas and Oklahoma want to join the SEC; may be a done deal??
Big $$$

Doubt it. They can still trounce every team in the Big 12, or old Southwest Conference.

Saw where TX had hired Nick Saban’s offensive coordinator from Bama.
Guess they finally got the balls to fire that idiot black coach they had.

There was an article on this in today’s newspaper sports section. Sounded plenty legit.

They will both have to go. The red river showdown is too big to lose.

wtf? OK, ditch Arkansas, ditch Vandy (goodbye conference GPA), ditch UK. TU no way, unless you bring back Mac Brown. OU...maybe, better start paying your way first. $10M up front. I'd rather have North Carolina or, cough, hack, spit, puke Clemson.

first thing you know Ohio State is gonna want in. Christ on a popsicle.

we ain't hosting an international (intergalactic) Kegger ...(name the movie)

I haven’t watched college football in years but it would seem to make a lot of sense for both sides. TX and OK would be in a bigger TV market and TX would bring a lot of fans and ratings to the SEC.

seriously? dude do you even know what you're talking about? the SEC doesn't "need" additional fans or watchers. Dear sweet jesus where do you live? and what the F have you been thinking about football? if you "haven't watched football for years" then STFU because you have no idea, your opinion means jack and chit. texas has been a losing program since mack brown left. OU has been on life support with a psychotic QB and zero winning. christ you're an idiot.

Whoa easy there bubba it’s just football.

Who said anything about the SEC needing additional fans? NCAA football is a big money business selling a product and nothing more. Name me a business that doesn’t want to “grow the brand” and make more money. TX and OU have been down awhile but both, TX especially have the resources that they likely won’t be down forever.

Even when bad they have the resources and name recognition to bring ratings/money to the conference. How long has it been since PSU or UM were truly good but they still draw ratings and make money. It’s a business. It isn’t about having the best product or being the best or even good it’s about money and quantity. Put another way is a Honda car better than a Lamborghini? Which company has the larger market share and makes more money? Follow the money.

You need to catch up; They hired Sark in January to replace the VERY overrated Tom Herman who replaced the black coach 3 years ago; who was probably better than Herman

Texas and Oklahoma joining the SEC is like Missouri joining, they gonna get the fuqk beat out of them every weekend, not gonna happen.

They take their beatings; and collect BIG checks. And; once or twice a decade (Missouri) they have a good season. Being in the SEC will help Texas and Oklahoma; and the SEC will put 3-4 teams in the 12 team playoff every year. More $$$ to spread around to the conference members. More visibility for the NIL deals for the players.
Basic economy of scale

Why would either do it? All they have to do is beat the other and pretty much will be in the Final Four every year.

Take OK. They have beating OSU something like 14 outta 16 years. They beat Texas like a drum. They would keep those two rivalries then ADD SEC West teams, all seven, then two rotating SEC East teams


You gonna tell me OK wants this schedule in the SEC West


SEPTEMBER

LSU
A&M
Alabama
Auburn

OCTOBER

Arkansas
Ole Miss
Miss State
UF


NOVEMBER

Homecoming
UGA
Texas
OSU

SEC Championship Game (Yeah, Right!!!)

I just saw that on the local news the other night. I don’t keep up th the TSips. Just TAMU and Bama. 🤠

The TSips “woke” Coach experiment worked as bout as well TAMU doing the same with that idiot Kevin Sumlin. All they did was Fugg up both teams recruiting for several years.

You’re thinking like a fan. It’s all about the money. The SEC provides more exposure and revenue and at the same time TX and OK would bring more ratings to the SEC. It’s mutually beneficial to both sides and neither cares more than lip services whom wins games as long as they all make money.

Unfortunately I think college football is going to implode. It's the only major sport I follow anymore but I'm becoming less and less enamored with it. Coach's salaries were the beginning of the downfall.

True.

Ask Nebraska how it worked out for them leaving the Big 12. They could have stayed in the Big 12 and probably won the North Division every year and then played in the Big 12 Championship, but they saw big $'s by joining the Big 10. Now they're middle of the pack in the Big 10. Better to be a big fish in a little pond than vice versa.

G23

I heard about this earlier today. Not sure what to make of it. A few years ago the Cowboys and sooners were looking hard at the Pac 12. Not sure what unhooked that.

::This Space Reserved For Orange Okie::

I'd love to hear his take on this.

Gone for now but not forgotten along with Bristoe and James Jr. at least that asshat “cowboy Tim” from Wisconsin seems to be gone.

LOL. That’s just MEAN.

It’s happening. The NCAA is disintegrating with NIL and the recent Supreme Court decision on educational benefits. This all about setting it up so that the SEC is in the catbird’s seat to dictate the new order.

If tex/ok come it will be hell on them because we have defense in this league. Really want to trade tx tech for lsu/Bama? Alrighty.

Yep. They’ll be in for some serious ass whuppings.

Just watched an extended local sports cast and apparently this is pretty serious. The columnist who broke the story says both universities will be sending out letters to the Big 12 in a week or so advising them they will not renew their contract. An announcement could happen within 2-3 weeks. College sports is changing and I'm not sure its for the good.

I know my alma mater is small potatoes in the big money game, but trouncing every team in the Big 12 isn’t how I would describe it.

UT vs K-State, KSU is 9-8 in modern times (going back to 1998, 1942 was last game before then).

OU vs K-State, OU is up 6-4 in the last 10 years, with KSU winning the last 2 years.

The T-sips have sucked for at least the last 7 or 8 years.

Already seeing the pods breakdown ....


Pods would allegedly be as follows:

SEC East Pod 1:
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee

SEC East Pod 2:
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy

SEC West Pod 1:
LSU
Texas A&M
Mississippi
Miss State

SEC West Pod 2:
Texas
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Mizzou

BTW ... apparently this is really happening, all but a done deal. OK legislators trying to stop it but with T Boone Pickett dead there is little hope of that now. Big 12, which is really Big 8, bout to be Little 6.

There will be a mad rush to 16 by all of the remaining conferences .... B1G might grab Kansas, K State maybe, Okie State? Who else?

What is the A She She going to do? What about the PAC 12?

Dis gon b gud.

I could see this happening with OU, but find it hard to believe Texas would join the SEC. Their old boosters and admins have hated everything about the SEC since it was formed. They got out of the Southwest Conference back in the day because of much of the same stuff that is the norm in the SEC now (mainly rampant cheating in recruiting), and poor academics. Texas is closer to being an ivy league school than a lot of public schools. They would fit better in the PAC. Maybe some of the old farts running the show at Texas have died off or they don't have the power they once had.. The SEC will love all the DEM, Liberal Karen like Texas fans...

Anyhow, I hope it is true though, because the BIG 12 sucks now, it just needs to die..

Everything changes. The continuous wokeness has turned me off to the point I don’t even look at when the games are or who is playing. I used to be a diehard fan that rarely missed watching a game.

Texas would certainly fit in with some of the Libertard Ivy League Schools nowadays. When it comes to being “woke” and kissing the BLM crowd’s ass. And being ran by Libertard Professors.

This is true .... this is exactly correct. ^^^^^^^

See the projected Pods breakout above.

Each school c0ukd soon be seeing $65-$90 million dolllar a year payouts with the new conference TV deals and streaming deals that will be cut. CBS is out of the picture so it is wide open for bidding if the new members are added.

The SEC Network is already stronger than death and is projected to surpass the mother ship's football season ratings in 2024. That's an incredible thought and coukd only happen with some serious streaming numbers in the future and some really big increases in access fees ... probably in the neighborhood of $10 per household for the package.

There's no stopping progress boys. But I'm out. Paying players ... that did it for me. Losing our box seats that we've had for 30 years so they coukd build more corporate luxury boxes. Seat licenses and ticket prices through the roof. We've put the Cockaboose up for sale. We're done. We'll watch some of the games from the comfort of my home on an 80" TV .... but no more going to games and spending $1000s of dollars a season to support the woke spoiled kiddies and administrators and especially the NCAA. F'em all. They've practically ruined the game.

It was cooler when it was the Big Eight anyway. The wife and I were at a conference in Topeka for the OU game one year. Hotel was full of game-goer's. Fifty miles distant, the hotel was full up. Daughter lives catty-cornered from Bill Snyder Family Stadium. Game day or even game weekend is just off the hook.

I think you're on the right track.

If they want more SEC games, they should make Alabama play two teams every weekend. Make them use some of those 5 star recruits that are sitting on the bench. miles

Tea Sips? We don’t need no stinking Tea Sips!

RTR

Before Tx can join the SEC, they will have to get rid of the cash-cow deal they have in the Big 12. In the SEC, all schools divide the money equally. That cash-cow deal that Tx has had for years is what has caused many of the problems in the Big 12.

the SEC is not ditching UK.

UK is a respectable football program and the flagship for basketball.

It's true the NCAA is headed for the dust bin. NIL is huge. Want to see my Aggies play that Austin team again. Hoping for the PAC12 to make some gains (they are in Eugene) as my boy just joined the Ducks. One thing for sure, change is coming.

This will make the SEC much stronger and richer

They’ll make more with the equal SEC payout than they do with the current deal in the Big 12. Payout is expected to be in the $60 million dollar a year range PER SCHOOL on the low side.

Yep. The SEC Network has made some strides In viewership.

MiB

SEC East Pod 2:
Alabama
Auburn
Kentucky
Vandy


phug me!

Next you'll have the Washington Huskies in the SEC.

Where's VAnimrod?

Fug the SEC.

The blackmailed MS over the flag.

Texas probably has a bigger endowment then a few schools combined in the SEC.

They don't have an organized program otherwise they would not be let recruits escape to play football in other states. I think they got a really good HC now if he can stay out of trouble.

Sean went from VAnimrod to 4ager then departed.

Hopefully he’ll return one day.

It would be nice to see the Aggies pound the TSips again.

JB, you need to look at the numbers..... Tx football in 2015-2016 yr made $127.8M, with expenses of $28.6M, giving a profit of $99.2M. Now the SEC's split for each school in 2019 was $43.7M.

Here's the links.....https://college-sports.texastribune.org/colleges/university-of-texas-at-austin/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...revenue-still-trails-big-ten/2856234001/

I beleive thats Texas profit from total football operations. The $43 million is just the SEC conference split from bowl games, TV contracts ,etc. Not what the schools bring in individually from ticket sales, concessions, gear sales, Nike type deals, etc. The payout is expected to grow to $65M with new TV deals; and will be more with Tex/Ok in the deal
Big bucks in play; they are not coming for a pay cut, take that to the bank.

I am going to make one comment on this thread and then I shall not return to it. (So, all vituperation directed at me will be wasted.) After long thought and careful consideration of my choice of words to ensure that I am not vague in expressing myself, here is what I have to say: Phuque Texas, Phuque Oklahoma, Phuque the SEC.

I agree with what you said, so I looked further and found these numbers. According to these numbers, Tx. would have to take a $33 million cut to equal the top (Georgia) SEC team and a $61 million cut to equal the 2nd highest grossing football team in the SEC. These numbers are suppose to be the gross football income for the time period indicated. I'm not saying Tx wont get in the SEC, but they will have to take a pay cut to do so, if things remain the same. Of course, one of the things we can count on is .... things change.

The data below covers Fiscal Year 2018, running from July 1, 2018 through June 30, 2019.

Without further ado, here is the latest data according to the U.S. Department of Education.

Power 5 -- Top 15
1. Texas -- $156 million
2. Georgia -- $123 million
3. Michigan -- $122 million
4. Notre Dame -- $116 million
5. Ohio State -- $115 million
6. Penn State -- $100 million
7. Auburn -- $95 million
8. Oklahoma -- $94.8 million
9. Alabama -- $94.6 million
10. Nebraska -- $94.3 million
11. LSU -- $92 million
12. Tennessee -- $91 million
13. Wisconsin -- $90 million
14. Florida -- $85 million
15. Washington -- $84 million

Lot off different ways to calculate these numbers, year to year

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/s...ed-nationally-in-terms-of-total-revenue/

Texas, out of the Big 12, was No. 1, followed by Texas A&M. Below, you can see the total revenue brought in by 13 of the 14 SEC teams (Vanderbilt is a private institution):
No. 2 — Texas A&M — $211,960,034
No. 5 — Alabama — $174,307,419
No. 6 — Georgia — $157,852,479
No. 8 — Florida — $149,165,475
No. 9 — LSU — $147,744,233
No. 10 — Auburn — $147,511,034
No. 11 — Tennessee — $145,653,191
No. 16 — South Carolina — $136,032,845
No. 17 — Kentucky — $130,706,744
No. 19 — Arkansas — $129,680,808
No. 24 — Ole Miss — $117,834,511
No. 31 — Mississippi State — $100,062,237
No. 32 — Missouri — $97,848,195
Vanderbilt does not disclose financial information

They still play football?

Not so much. This sounds more like dreams swimming in fans' heads than actual reality

The SEC still remembers the antics Texas pulled off the last time the SEC raided the Big 12, pulling Texas A&M and Missouri away.

The SEC wanted both Texas and Texas A&M. Texas went prima donna, demanding all kinds of special conditions in exchange to access to "their" Texas market. The SEC said, "Thanks, but no thanks!", took Texas A&M and Missouri, and left the deal on the table. Texas then went further and snubbed Texas A&M, cancelling their annual duel, for accepting a better offer. Yet, Texas A&M has only gotten better recruiting through the years. Mighty Texas has faltered, until they recently got Nick Saban as their head coach.

Texas A&M has had mediocre teams, for the most part, but the talent they draw plays against the best teams in the nation, with respect to the top 3 sports.

Texas has sported some equally mediocre teams, because the Big 12 really has become "Texas/OU+ the others" - like the ancient SWC used to be. That said, Texas talent doesn't play among the best teams nationally until the end of the season. The SEC sports several national contenders every year.

Texas A&M hasn't missed the Big 12 nor Texas, and we've increased our recruiting.

I know this may step on some toes here, but this ol' Ag isn't seeing the Texas market changing any time soon.

Texas didn’t get Nick Saban as head Coach. They hired his Offensive Coordinator. .

"Really good" may be a stretch. He's been a good O coordinator but he's never had much success as the head guy. Time will tell.

First thing he’d better do is stop the steady flow of TX recruits swimming the Red River northward.

You got that right chl. UT is the perennial underachiever on the football field. ATM is a wannabe big boy.

Yep. And they got butt hurt and refused to play the Aggies in a non conference game too.

Being from the great state of Texas, lemme make a subtle...or not so subtle...adjustment there.

Texas is perennial underachieving prima donna that thinks it's in a class by itself. A 3-7 record to big boy wannabe TCU over the last 10 years, coupled with a 7-15 record against its major rival OU since the 2000-2001 season, is not the mark of a premiere team.

A&M (my alma mater) is the wannabe big boy that knocks off enough one of the elites, on an often enough frequency, to think it's arrived, but the Aggies still have a very LOOOOOONG way to go to get rooted at the next level up in gridiron competition.

They then tried to get the Texas and Baylor alumni in the Texas Legislature to punish A&M for the audacity of seeking a better sports future for itself by trying to cut A&M out of the Texas Permanent School Fund.

And, in truth, the Aggies have shown they can leave off playing against Texas, (or Baylor, for that matter). LSU has been a very capable replacement as a rival...as has Alabama.

The A&M-Longhorn rivalry is missed, as is the Brazos Valley rivalry against Baylor, but neither show any interest in playing

Now, do we Aggies want to resume the Texas rivalry? You bet! Against Baylor? That's be nice!

Do we put up with the entitled attitudes? No, we told them to go shove it.

https://www.wibw.com/2021/07/23/jayhawks-set-up-potential-membership-talks-with-big-ten/

I read today where it will take 11 yeas to let Tx and Ok into the SEC. Tx A&M is a no, at least I think so. If that's correct, it will only take 3 more no's, out of 13, and the deal is off.

I think the SEC will remember the deal Tx wanted several years ago and tell them to suck eggs..... again.

Of course, since Tx. wants into the SEC, I think they realize that they 'screwed up' and they just might be 'willing to take what they can get'.

Just my .02

Loved it when Baylor would come to Kyle Field and get their asses handed to them. I was at the game in the 80’s when the Bears HC Grant Teaff got into a fight with some of his own fans after the game. Standing only a few yards from where it happened. It was hilarious. Of course, he tried to blame it on the Aggies instead.

Good grief; someone that does not even know Saban is still the coach at Bama, and signed an 8 year extension; is offering an opinion on SEC football???

I’m guessing it was a typo

As a Hog fan I hope they let them both in. We still would rather play and hate Texas than anyone in the SEC. We could learn to Hate the Sooner too.

[bleep] Texas, [bleep] Oklahoma, and [bleep] the SEC

Says the man licker 🤣

Yesterday, I didn't think the SEC would vote them in. Today I read an article and it gave the impression it was a done deal.

I do know that back in 2010ish or so, that the SEC wanted Tx A&M and Tx., but Tx wanted this and that, so the SEC took Mo. instead. Now I believe Tx realizes that they made a mistake.

Just have to wait and see.