Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Because it’s more BS from the pathological liar liebka.
Is this pot bellied BHA clown you cal dumb? sounds about as intelligent as you. lmao
“ Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run an our public lands.”—liebka
BHA is clown show and has zero respect in the sportsmen community
Look at this pot bellied BHA beta clown and friend of Land Tawney attacking Tucker Carlson and his 11 years old daughter-in-law in a fly shop while on vacation . This anti science BHA idiot Dan Bailey stated that Tucker killed millions because he question the untested vaccine and promoted ivermectin
Here's Buzzy close friend BHA founder Ryan "Penis head" Busse. calling for gun bans and confiscations. Buszzy is he a bigger anti gun nutter than you? lol
Here's Buzzy close friend BHA founder Ryan "Penis head" Busse. calling for gun bans and confiscations. Buszzy is he a bigger anti gun nutter than you? lol
ANYONE advocating with Trevor (go back to south Africa) Noah needs to be neutered. Where the fugg has everyone been?
I hadn’t seen the Tucker video. Holy crap he looked scared.
If he had a spine ol Tucker wouldn’t have cowered off in the corner.
He with his young daughter lost pedo and trying to draw this pot bellied creepy pedi away from his young daughter.
I am not surprised a BHA leader would attack a man and his young daughter in a fly shop and shout out nutter violent anti science schist
This anti science BHA moron said the untested jab worked. IS everyone in BHA this uneducated lostpedo?
This pot bellied idiot Dan Bailey cant even tie his own shoes lol
I guess for liebika the best way to “protect” someone is run.
Flight not fight is good for your type. Man Tucker was chitting scared.
“This pot bellied idiot Dan Bailey cant even tie his own shoes”-liebka
Yet he scared the fugg out of Tucker.LOL
Tucker speaks in common sense, I'm not a boomer and I could listen to him all day long. You're a plant, how does it feel to hang here and know NO ONE wants to hear what you have to say?
IDC what "awards" you've been given Buzz. You'll never hold a candle to the people who listen to Tucker's words. He's sensible and has no problem making his point. A Whole Hell Of a Lot More than you and yours can. GFY
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Yikes. I think I am out of this conversation before I get any on me lol
] I realize that I just happen to be on here right now but if you research Buzz you'll realize that he's just another scum ball Dumocrat lookin for recognition if you investigate.
I wonder if those votes take place in an informational and influence vacuum, or if the Senate committees that hear words of support from groups like BHA take the will of their constituents into consideration.
IDC what "awards" you've been given Buzz. You'll never hold a candle to the people who listen to Tucker's words. He's sensible and has no problem making his point. A Whole Hell Of a Lot More than you and yours can. GFY
Look at the numbers Numb Nuts
So was Tucker lying about hating Trump?
He's your boy, tell us all if he was lying that he hates Trump or lying that he liked him?
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Yikes. I think I am out of this conversation before I get any on me lol
] I realize that I just happen to be on here right now but if you research Buzz you'll realize that he's just another scum ball Dumocrat lookin for recognition if you investigate.
You're just pissed you'll never have the ability, smarts, or know how to influence positive change for wildlife, hunting, fishing, public lands. I get it, it has to be frustrating and all you can do is throw a tantrum about it.
Those that move the needle always take flak from those that never will.
Goes with the territory and I'm going to continue to make a difference.
IDC what "awards" you've been given Buzz. You'll never hold a candle to the people who listen to Tucker's words. He's sensible and has no problem making his point. A Whole Hell Of a Lot More than you and yours can. GFY
Look at the numbers Numb Nuts
So was Tucker lying about hating Trump?
He's your boy, tell us all if he was lying that he hates Trump or lying that he liked him?
Unbelievable...literally.
You've no room to talk about ANYONE. You Biden supporting piece of shiet.
Yes I like Tucker, I can disagree and still like him. He's not speaking bad about him now is he? Your Mesaiah is driving this country into the ground Dumb Azz
IDC what "awards" you've been given Buzz. You'll never hold a candle to the people who listen to Tucker's words. He's sensible and has no problem making his point. A Whole Hell Of a Lot More than you and yours can. GFY
Look at the numbers Numb Nuts
So was Tucker lying about hating Trump?
He's your boy, tell us all if he was lying that he hates Trump or lying that he liked him?
Unbelievable...literally.
You've no room to talk about ANYONE. You Biden supporting piece of shiet.
Yes I like Tucker, I can disagree and still like him. He's not speaking bad about him now is he? Your Mesaiah is driving this country into the ground Dumb Azz
I know you like tucker, I was just trying to get your take on whether he likes Trump or hates Trump and which time he was being truthful and which time he was lying?
That's the trouble with liars, they always get caught and can't keep their stories straight.
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Yikes. I think I am out of this conversation before I get any on me lol
] I realize that I just happen to be on here right now but if you research Buzz you'll realize that he's just another scum ball Dumocrat lookin for recognition if you investigate.
You're just pissed you'll never have the ability, smarts, or know how to influence positive change for wildlife, hunting, fishing, public lands. I get it, it has to be frustrating and all you can do is throw a tantrum about it.
Those that move the needle always take flak from those that never will.
Goes with the territory and I'm going to continue to make a difference.
It's that simple...
I'm young, retired from Gov't and can hunt where ever and when ever I want; just like you hope to do someday. However I'll still not support the Dumocrat party or the dumb shiet they support.
We're very different; I'll not try to make things happen that SUCK for everyone but me.
All this talk about Tucker has steered the conversation away from BHA's obvious support of the idiot. Gee, who in this conversation would want the focus to shift?
You're just pissed you'll never have the ability, smarts, or know how to influence positive change for wildlife, hunting, fishing, public lands. I get it, it has to be frustrating and all you can do is throw a tantrum about it.
Those that move the needle always take flak from those that never will.
Goes with the territory and I'm going to continue to make a difference.
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Because girls like you, Schrappy Baldwin, and NannyGoatHuffy sat on the couch letting others control the 2018 election for Montana Senator Jon tester got to vote Yea on Haaland.
Thanks a lot from Wyoming.
Maybe get off the couch and get involved would be a better use of your time than just bitching about others here on the Campfire.
Just Sayin and I might just say it a time or two in the future.
Deb Haaland the 'reformed' quasi-domestic terrorist? Was she an Earth First! follower?? I sent multiple messages to Sen. Ted Cruz asking him to put a 'Hold' on her nomination. He didn't and now this dumb broad is getting paid by FedGov to be a clueless apparatchik.....
All this talk about Tucker has steered the conversation away from BHA's obvious support of the idiot. Gee, who in this conversation would want the focus to shift?
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Yikes. I think I am out of this conversation before I get any on me lol
] I realize that I just happen to be on here right now but if you research Buzz you'll realize that he's just another scum ball Dumocrat lookin for recognition if you investigate.
You're just pissed you'll never have the ability, smarts, or know how to influence positive change for wildlife, hunting, fishing, public lands. I get it, it has to be frustrating and all you can do is throw a tantrum about it.
Those that move the needle always take flak from those that never will.
Goes with the territory and I'm going to continue to make a difference.
It's that simple...
I'm young, retired from Gov't and can hunt where ever and when ever I want; just like you hope to do someday. However I'll still not support the Dumocrat party or the dumb shiet they support.
We're very different; I'll not try to make things happen that SUCK for everyone but me.
I'll NEVER advocate for what you do.
And I'm not asking for your help, don't need it...and further, don't want it.
I know how to get things done, been at it a long time.
You're just pissed you'll never have the ability, smarts, or know how to influence positive change for wildlife, hunting, fishing, public lands. I get it, it has to be frustrating and all you can do is throw a tantrum about it.
Those that move the needle always take flak from those that never will.
Goes with the territory and I'm going to continue to make a difference.
Drink another bud light and calm down...you're going to have a stroke.
Not before you suck another dick for a free hunt.
Because girls like you, Schrappy Baldwin, and NannyGoatHuffy sat on the couch letting others control the 2018 election for Montana Senator Jon tester got to vote Yea on Haaland.
Thanks a lot from Wyoming.
Maybe get off the couch and get involved would be a better use of your time than just bitching about others here on the Campfire.
Just Sayin and I might just say it a time or two in the future.
Jesus your shiet gets old John, these guys didn't sit out. They may have said they did but they didn't.
Please stop making yourself look like such an azz here. I don't think you're a bad guy but damn you try to make it look that way.
I know how to get things done, been at it a long time.
Ya, the DUMOCRAT way
No, the right way...
Fuggin Biden voter.
You're as bad as Burns. NO ONE here wants to hear from you yet you HAVE to have the recognition to satisfy your ego. GFY you piece of shiet.
Couldn't say that on Hunttalk could I....... LOL
Meh, you're just lashing out, I get it. I'm going to keep influencing change, I suggest you're either going to have to get over it, or die with it. Don't care which, that's a you problem to solve.
Meh, you're just lashing out, I get it. I'm going to keep influencing change, I suggest you're either going to have to get over it, or die with it. Don't care which, that's a you problem to solve.
It might not win any awards from internet tough guys, but walking away from a confrontational situation is usually best when you have a young child with you. There are simply too many crazies out there now days. I have much greater respect for that than for the antagonist confronting someone who has a kid with them.
Meh, you're just lashing out, I get it. I'm going to keep influencing change, I suggest you're either going to have to get over it, or die with it. Don't care which, that's a you problem to solve.
Meh, you're just lashing out, I get it. I'm going to keep influencing change, I suggest you're either going to have to get over it, or die with it. Don't care which, that's a you problem to solve.
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
They have BHA right where they want them. They win over gun owners and "2nd amendment supporters," then throw them a few crumbs every now and then. All the while they are sitting on ready to pull the rug out from under them.
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Yeah, the Senate does confirm, that's why I posted the link to the Senate vote, again obviously.
The rest of your post shows only that you haven't a clue about what's being done here. But by all means, carry on with your vast experience from Canada.
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Yeah, the Senate does confirm, that's why I posted the link to the Senate vote, again obviously.
The rest of your post shows only that you haven't a clue about what's being done here. But by all means, carry on with your vast experience from Canada.
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Scrapnel doing his "best".
Scrapnel, right on cue.
So you don’t know who Ryan Busse is?
Don’t dodge the issue, he is not gun friendly and both he and you are outspoken BHA members. What is your position on Busse’s negative gun stance?
It’s OK to be honest, no one here likes you anyway, so your image can’t be harmed any more than it is…
I know who Busse is, obviously you're enamored with him. You and tommybot are doing a great job of giving him air time by posting up videos.
If you don't like what Busse is doing, then get off your ass and do something about it. Bitching and moaning as well as posting his videos isn't doing anything but helping to spread his message. Nice work!
But doing nothing is about as good as you can do, I realize that. So carry on.
I know how to get things done, been at it a long time.
lol
Be on the hill in June getting things done, while you're on the couch...drunk.
lol...
I've seen BuzzH use InsideSpeak <on the hill> meaning the Capitol in DC. Using InsideSpeak BuzzH projects that he's part of the club, swamp, the Inner Party.
I'll also assert BuzzH has embraced DoubleSpeak, where he believes black is white, or white is black. This DoubleSpeak is used depending on the setting he's in at the moment.
Tawney, Busse, BuzzH are desperate to make BHA a working component of the swamp <on the hill>. Sad sycophants.
Buzzy's close friend Busse is traveling around the country pushing gun bans again
Like Buzzy he is a grifter and a liar
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by AB2506
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Yeah, the Senate does confirm, that's why I posted the link to the Senate vote, again obviously.
The rest of your post shows only that you haven't a clue about what's being done here. But by all means, carry on with your vast experience from Canada.
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Scrapnel doing his "best".
Scrapnel, right on cue.
So you don’t know who Ryan Busse is?
Don’t dodge the issue, he is not gun friendly and both he and you are outspoken BHA members. What is your position on Busse’s negative gun stance?
It’s OK to be honest, no one here likes you anyway, so your image can’t be harmed any more than it is…
I know who Busse is, obviously you're enamored with him. You and tommybot are doing a great job of giving him air time by posting up videos.
If you don't like what Busse is doing, then get off your ass and do something about it. Bitching and moaning as well as posting his videos isn't doing anything but helping to spread his message. Nice work!
But doing nothing is about as good as you can do, I realize that. So carry on.
Ryan Busse was the national board chair for BHA and BHA web sites states that Buzzy attended meetings with Busse. Buzz Hettick said at first he never heard of him
Buzz, also a BHA board officer stated he has never heard of Busse even though he met with Busse often and worked for Busse. After I posted record sof their meetings Buzzy ran away again
Buzz Hettick refuses to state where the millions of dark money dollars donated to BHA comes from when asked repeatedly
BHA member Ryan Busse works for the world's largest gun ban lobby run by Giffords
Buzzy that was pretty cool when your pot bellied BHA friend Dan Bailey n Montana attacked Tucker Carlson and his daughter in a Livingston fly shop
Are all BHA members pot bellied cowards who attack innocent children?
I hear BHA Dan Bailey is a close friend of BHA head Land Tawney. The internets states they worked together too
BHA Dan Bailey attacked Tucker and his young daughter and stated that Tuckers isn't allowed to say the Covid vaccine had deadly side affects. Of course it does and has been scientifically proven. Is every BHA member a violent anti science left nutter like Busse, Bailey , Tawney and you?
BHA just endorsed two incompetent violent left wing nutters to run our public lands
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by AB2506
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Skankhunt42
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by losttrail60
I hadn’t seen the Tucker video. Holy crap he looked scared.
If he had a spine ol Tucker wouldn’t have cowered off in the corner.
He with his young daughter lost pedo and trying to draw this pot bellied creepy pedi away from his young daughter.
I am not surprised a BHA leader would attack a man and his young daughter in a fly shop and shout out nutter violent anti science schist
This anti science BHA moron said the untested jab worked. IS everyone in BHA this uneducated lostpedo?
This pot bellied idiot Dan Bailey cant even tie his own shoes lol
I guess for liebika the best way to “protect” someone is run.
Flight not fight is good for your type. Man Tucker was chitting scared.
“This pot bellied idiot Dan Bailey cant even tie his own shoes”-liebka
Yet he scared the fugg out of Tucker.LOL
And for what it's worth Tucker has NEVER been scared. Prove it you punk
Tucker got what he deserved...fired.
On what basis would you make that inane statement?
Tucker was Fox’s biggest star. In the 8pm hour they have lost half of their audience. Fox is getting what they deserve.
Tucker will make more money without Fox. They did him a favor. Fox’s attempts to defame Tucker are failing.
Bad move Fox. Poor judgement Buzz.
On the basis that Tucker got canned by faux news, obviously.
Who cares if faux news is circling the drain as well?
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Lol. Yeah. I'm sure that mouth breather really got to Tucker. Laughin.
All that was was about covid vaccines. So in addition to this slob BHA guy making an @ss of himself, Tucker was spot on, as he usually is. That fat slob is pure BHA.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Lol. Yeah. I'm sure that mouth breather really got to Tucker. Laughin.
All that was was about covid vaccines. So in addition to this slob BHA guy making an @ss of himself, Tucker was spot on, as he usually is. That fat slob is pure BHA.
Watch the video Boomer. Tucker was back peddling and looking for an exit with wild eyes. LOL
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Yeah, the Senate does confirm, that's why I posted the link to the Senate vote, again obviously.
The rest of your post shows only that you haven't a clue about what's being done here. But by all means, carry on with your vast experience from Canada.
Oh, I know about the BHA. With the previous Communist NDP government, the BHA was making secret solo inside deals with the NDP to RESTRICT ACCESS to a huge area of Westcentral Alberta. Only the Uber fit 20-30 year old backpackers allowed. I can't believe people with 2 live brain cells fall for the BHA shiite.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Lol. Yeah. I'm sure that mouth breather really got to Tucker. Laughin.
All that was was about covid vaccines. So in addition to this slob BHA guy making an @ss of himself, Tucker was spot on, as he usually is. That fat slob is pure BHA.
Watch the video Boomer. Tucker was back peddling and looking for an exit with wild eyes. LOL
Well you are wrong twice. But that's nothing unusual. Laughing. You dumbf@ck
Wtf does it have to do with BHA? A lot of members I know of, very much do not like Haaland.
Why couldn't they support BHA without agreeing with 100 percent of what they say and do?
How is that different than supporting a political party and knowing you won't agree with them 100 percent of the time?
Lol who founded BHA and who funds them?
Why are so many BHA members , leadership involved in gun control ?
What the background of current BHA president Tawney?
Why did an influential BHA member Dan Bailey attack Tucker Carlson and his 12 year old daughter in a fly shop in Montana?
And how does any of that answer my question
What does a hunting organization have to do spending resources for nutter radicals who push gun bans and confiscations?
I hunt a lot on BLM land. Why did BHA push to get a convicted Ecco terrorist to run a our public lands. What does that do for sportsmen?
Why does BHA push these anti gun anti hunting unqualified radical democrats to run our public lands?
Where does BHA funding come from? Where?
Is Haaland, a 50 some year old woman with 2 DWi's and never had a job in her life, qualified to oversee and manage millions of acres of public resources? lol
Hey tommybot,
Congress confirms nominations, if you had half a clue how the system works you would realize your grievance is with Congress.
Have you asked your Congressional delegation that confirmed the people you're bitching about in the doi?
Also, if you like BLM lands so much, you should be sending letters thanking the BLM director and the DOI secretary for purchasing the Marton Ranch in Wyoming which opens up 75,000 acres to public hunting, etc.
Pretty pathetic Buzz, I’m not even an American and I know that the SENATE confirms Executive Branch nominations, not Congress.
No wonder you’re so confused by the BHA.
The Biden Administration is attempting to restrict and/or ban hunting, hunting access, lead ammunition, firearms. What party does Biden lead? Democrats. What party does most of the BHA leadership belong to? Democrats.
Do you really think that Democrats fight against Democrats? You’re cheering about BHA winning crumbs for hunters while the Democrats are trying to steal the whole cake.
Do you think that the BHA leaders work against the Democratic Party. Only to cover up their true intentions, the destruction of hunting.
Yeah, the Senate does confirm, that's why I posted the link to the Senate vote, again obviously.
The rest of your post shows only that you haven't a clue about what's being done here. But by all means, carry on with your vast experience from Canada.
Oh, I know about the BHA. With the previous Communist NDP government, the BHA was making secret solo inside deals with the NDP to RESTRICT ACCESS to a huge area of Westcentral Alberta. Only the Uber fit 20-30 year old backpackers allowed. I can't believe people with 2 live brain cells fall for the BHA shiite.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
So let's review the truth
The mrna covid vaccine never stopped you from getting covid or spreading covid That is a very well documented and proven scientific fact according to pfizers own documents
An untested mrna vaccine was mandated for the public. If you didn't get this untested mrna vaccine that never even worked you would be fired from your job. Tens of millions of Americans lost their jobs because they refused to get this untested mrna vaccine that never worked according to the manufacturer Pfizer
Millions of people have been documented to have died or suffered strokes, heart issues from this untested vaccine
Tucker Carlson spoke out about this untested mrna vaccine.
BHA pot belly leadership Dan Bailey attacked Tucker at a public fly shop in Livingston MT for warning the public about the untested vaccine that didn't prevent Covid or the spread of it but killed millions. Uneducated, anti science BHA pot Belly Dan Bailey attacks Ttucker Carlson and his young daughter for speaking the truth
You cal dumb and pot belly buzzy go apeschiit on Tucker for speaking the truth trying to save the lives of Americans and push the covid scam
And BHA is one of the most powerful anti gun lobbies now in the US and receive millions in dark money. Buzz Hettick, Land Tawney refuse too state where this dark money is coming from
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
Aren't you late for a BHA drag queen pint nite in Bozeman caldumb?
Is your head shaped like a giant penis like your BHA anti gun doosbag Ryan Busse? lmao
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
Birds of a feather.
Callnum is a well established coward with a keyboard. Nothing more.
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
This is rich coming from the fat, broke, drunk, do nothing puzzy. LOL
"In 2008, Tawney was a leader of the Sportsmen for Obama Committee. Tawney served on Democratic Senator Jon Tester's sportsmen advisory panel. Tawney was also the President of the Montana Hunters and Anglers Action political action committee"
The dwarf ginger boy Tawney has always been running some kind of grift in Montana because he was never qualified to find a real job
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
This is rich coming from the fat, broke, drunk, do nothing puzzy. LOL
Funny that so many pot bellied BHA losers like you don't hunt or fish but troll sportsmen's forum to spread lies. lmao
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
This is rich coming from the fat, broke, drunk, do nothing puzzy. LOL
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
This is rich coming from the fat, broke, drunk, do nothing puzzy. LOL
You can project all you want.
Stop running with pussies.
When is that last time you ran anywhere? Prolly rolled. LOL
I see BHA head Ryan Busse, friend of buzzy is still spreading gun bans. Why does a supposed hunting and fishing org like BHA spend all of its energy on gun bans?
Note: Big Jim has posted many pics of himself on here. You are a troll posey and have posted nothing on here of relevance . Not one thread related to hunting or fishing. You worship John Burns, a violent pathetic drunk who has been kicked off other forums for threatening violence .
John Burns is another BHA loser and luvs to brag about it. And he is an out of shape pot bellied loser like you , buzzy, Tawney, Dan Bailey lol
Being a farm boy Jim would crush you like a grape while urine ran down your skiing legs lol
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by AB2506
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Wow, that Bailey guy scared the chit out of Ol Tucker. Tucker was looking for a hole to crawl in.
Any guy who pulls a stunt like Bailey did in front of a man's kid is an [bleep]. Tucker was sandbagged. It's obviously a set up. Filmed from the side by a person who knew Bailey was going to shoot his mouth off. Pretty despicable.
Guys who are scared, always have a grin on their face, not. I admire Tucker's control.
You are confusing control with fear. Most parents here in Idaho or Montana would have knocked Bailey out.
How would you know?
You run with pussies.
This is rich coming from the fat, broke, drunk, do nothing puzzy. LOL
Don't try to backtrack now Buzzzz you wrote that Congress confirms, not the Senate.
Back tracking is what BuzzH is good at. He claimed no ties to Ryan Busse and yet worked with BHA and Busse as they continue to peddle their lies of being hunter friendly yet they are anti gun...
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Hey dipshit, you don’t want to admit to ties with that joker?
I don't have any ties to him, so yeah, intuitively obvious to even a casual observer I would think.
Don't try to backtrack now Buzzzz you wrote that Congress confirms, not the Senate.
Back tracking is what BuzzH is good at. He claimed no ties to Ryan Busse and yet worked with BHA and Busse as they continue to peddle their lies of being hunter friendly yet they are anti gun...
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Hey dipshit, you don’t want to admit to ties with that joker?
I don't have any ties to him, so yeah, intuitively obvious to even a casual observer I would think.
Why are you always so confused by simple things?
It’s curious. This site gets a lot of hits. Yet The pig-eyed POS posts what he does and expects for it to be just forgotten?
Not beyond the pale anymore to suggest he and his ilk are trying to agitate the membership to see who floats to the top to go after with the Stasi style government we are suffering through right now.
I’ve typed probably more than my fair share of unkind posts on here, but at the end of the day I’m a known quantity and a real person. Many of these Shït talking posters whether the topic is the jab, or BHA, or uketardation have not a single real life interaction with another member on here.
Buzzy initially stated that he never even heard of one the biggest anti gun activists now in the US ,Ryan Busse ; even though the worked in same small organization together over 10 years. He denied Busse was a member of BHA even though he help start this anti gun organization. I went on the BHA web site and copied it for Buzz that they had worked together and Buzzy ran away
On BHA Randy Newberg's site hunt talk I asked Randy if he was ever compensated for pimping public hunting as he markets his whole image as a DIY public land hunter on a budget who has to wait to draw tags. Buzz said he has never been compensated then a few members posted public info that he was compensated quite nicely. Awe shucks BHA Randy. Buzzy called them all liars, then Randy banned everyone who questioned him,
Buzz is paid to spread disinformation on sportsmen's forums - There is no doubt on that fact. And funny how the pathetic drunk Burns is always there to protect him
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by AB2506
Don't try to backtrack now Buzzzz you wrote that Congress confirms, not the Senate.
Back tracking is what BuzzH is good at. He claimed no ties to Ryan Busse and yet worked with BHA and Busse as they continue to peddle their lies of being hunter friendly yet they are anti gun...
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Hey dipshit, you don’t want to admit to ties with that joker?
I don't have any ties to him, so yeah, intuitively obvious to even a casual observer I would think.
Deb Haaland was a diversity hire from the start. Typical for Democrats, trying to score points and keep NM blue by giving the Abq/Fanta Se libs a warm fuzzy. The eco terrorist is actually Tracy Stone Manning. She was the PR creature for Earth First during its most violent phase in the late 1980s early 1990s, even then she was remarkably disciplined in her public messaging and press manipulation. But in her core, she's as radical as can be, her "masters thesis" in Environmental Studies (an invented major) is stunning both for its naivete AND arrogance.
But yep, B H A is a creature of left-wing white Greens, namely Trout Unlimited staff in the Northwest. I've got the documentation, these are all Joe Biden Fudd clones. TU/BHA/TRCP et cetera all fall under "hunter and angler" groups, again a term that didn't exist until Audubon funded Trout Unlimited to support Clinton's "roadless initiative" in the late 1990s. Actual sportsmen and sportswomen opposed the roadless thing, but NRA wasn't leading very well. So TU et al started attacking NRA, starting with the Outdoor Writers convention in Spokane in about 2000, trying to split off the Fudds from hunters who understand the 2A ain't about hunting. A big expensive fake job.
I found an old Payson Roundup article (2017) about federal land transfers. Buzz Hettick is quoted as a "lobbyist for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers" while Ryan Busse is listed in the next paragraph as "national board chairman for the organization [BHA]" -- oh no, they never ever met but are in the same article repping the same group?
Gosh, Buzzard is a good tag for someone who gets into the stinkiest political carrion and enjoys it.
For someone that gets around with a lot of different "leadership," Buzz didn't get around his own BHA enough to know who the national board chairman was?
I found an old Payson Roundup article (2017) about federal land transfers. Buzz Hettick is quoted as a "lobbyist for Backcountry Hunters and Anglers" while Ryan Busse is listed in the next paragraph as "national board chairman for the organization [BHA]" -- oh no, they never ever met but are in the same article repping the same group?
Gosh, Buzzard is a good tag for someone who gets into the stinkiest political carrion and enjoys it.
I'm quoted in a lot of papers, tv, radio, asked to be on panels, give interviews, etc. etc.
I never said I didn't know who Busse was, just never interacted with him. BHA is a national org with leadership in nearly every state. Of the national board I know jr young the best, he's a good egg.
Federal land transfer got crushed, BHA was a big part of that. We do good work.
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
Dave nailed it and is over the target.... lmao
Since when is out in the weeds "over the target"? I think about 4 people read skinners bunker ridden nonsense. I'm being generous, nobody in Montana takes his crap journalism seriously.
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
Dave nailed it and is over the target.... lmao
Since when is out in the weeds "over the target"? I think about 4 people read skinners bunker ridden nonsense. I'm being generous, nobody in Montana takes his crap journalism seriously.
Your reaction proves he is spot on. A clue for you, the people are waking up to what the grifter parasites are up to...
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
Dave nailed it and is over the target.... lmao
Since when is out in the weeds "over the target"? I think about 4 people read skinners bunker ridden nonsense. I'm being generous, nobody in Montana takes his crap journalism seriously.
Your reaction proves he is spot on. A clue for you, the people are waking up to what the grifter parasites are up to...
So, Buzzard, what was the "lobbyist" tag all about? Federal, state? Or poetic journalistic pumpery?
Only reason BHA is "national" is because the non-Western hunters who come west for their "dream hunt" aren't kept up to speed on the real issues, at least not by the region's Class D farm-team caliber "journalists." That's where the opportunity existed for TU Audubon et al to fill an information vacuum with dark money.
BHA doesn't pitch locals except for a few useful idiots, just about every name associated is Dem, pro Green, anti-gun Fuddites. And there's no way you couldn't know Busse, you're a chapter co chair, or were, et cetera blah blah. Thing is, while you have no cred here, you're still on the press call information pitched to media by BHA, as a "grassroots" media actuality. It's fabricated, subsidized Astroturf fake cred for fake news regurgitated by lazy steno clerks. Book chapter and verse the Giffords model, same methodologies, and that's no coincidence, just like Busse hanging with Gabby. And on the same multimillion Bloomberg payroll. You;re just another cog in the dizinformatzia machine the Left adapted from their Soviet bosses.
Wow, is that what conclusions you came up with from your bunker?
Your brain has rotted skinner, get out in the sun once in a while it helps with your vitamin D.
You've always been a kook, but you're really taking your kookiness to new "heights".
You're the epitome of a class D "journalist", a bought and paid for schill, a washed up never has been trying to stay relevant. You've never been taken seriously a clown that's laughed at, hiding in your bunker, pretending you make a difference.
They aren't laughing with you Dave, they're laughing at you.
Dave nailed it and is over the target.... lmao
Since when is out in the weeds "over the target"? I think about 4 people read skinners bunker ridden nonsense. I'm being generous, nobody in Montana takes his crap journalism seriously.
Your reaction proves he is spot on. A clue for you, the people are waking up to what the grifter parasites are up to...
You aren't sober enough, or smart enough to know what's going on.
I am sure you have not noticed that we are engaged in a culture war with tyrannical Bolsheviks that are threatening our way of life and our freedoms, especially the freedoms to hunt and bear arms.
It's literally good vs evil and you have squarely aligned yourself with the side of evil. All for personal gain best I can figure.
Everybody here has this figured out and that's why you catch the hell you do here.
Yet you continue to show up and post? that is a strange habit you leftist all seem to have in common, going where nobody likes you and yet you seek our approval? weird schit
But in your arrogant leftist bubble you convince yourself we are ignorant and lack intelligence to make yourself feel better about selling out to evil.
You share the same level of common sense Anhueser Busch has recently displayed... absoloutlfuckinclueless
Oh and Buzzjob, as for my level of intelligence , I was smart enough not to pay ten of thousands of dollars for a Marxist indoctrination at a university!
And my level of sobriety I have no need to guess... 0% blood alcohol level
It's downright amazing, us ignorant , uneducated deplorables can function at all, let alone build things of value and be productive... hahhahahahaha
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
I’m quickly learning about the BHA and while I am inclined to put them in the same category as TU & WSC (wild steelhead). These organizations might have a great mission statement and their goals might be in line with ours but they are populated by leftists that aren’t there for the organization and its mission but instead are there to forward their bigger agenda, whatever that entails but usually something anti 2A.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
The old Republican/Democrat rivalry is as dead as the dodo bird... it is good vs evil... freedom vs slavery... government represent loss of freedom and slavery... Got to pay those pension and grifters.....
When the Republicans had all 3 branches and failed to repeal Obamacare, that was a huge clue and many still don't understand it today...
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
The old Republican/Democrat rivalry is as dead as the dodo bird... it is good vs evil... freedom vs slavery... government represent loss of freedom and slavery... Got to pay those pension and grifters.....
When the Republicans had all 3 branches and failed to repeal Obamacare, that was a huge clue and many still don't understand it today...
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
javascript:quickReply(18395041,1,0) What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
Public land transfer, it's on their platform.
Crack head human trafficker's, aka Hunter Biden is on your platform
I am sure you have not noticed that we are engaged in a culture war with tyrannical Bolsheviks that are threatening our way of life and our freedoms, especially the freedoms to hunt and bear arms.
It's literally good vs evil and you have squarely aligned yourself with the side of evil. All for personal gain best I can figure.
Everybody here has this figured out and that's why you catch the hell you do here.
Yet you continue to show up and post? that is a strange habit you leftist all seem to have in common, going where nobody likes you and yet you seek our approval? weird schit
But in your arrogant leftist bubble you convince yourself we are ignorant and lack intelligence to make yourself feel better about selling out to evil.
You share the same level of common sense Anhueser Busch has recently displayed... absoloutlfuckinclueless
You're delusional, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. The blowhards like you don't make a difference and in case you have failed to notice, many on this board don't like you either.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
Public land transfer, it's on their platform.
Since this is such a huge problem, I am sure you will have no problem providing numerous examples of this happening and the Republicans responsible?
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
Public land transfer, it's on their platform.
lololol. A few Republicans in Western states are kicking around the idea. That hardly makes it a platform issue. Good God.
I am sure you have not noticed that we are engaged in a culture war with tyrannical Bolsheviks that are threatening our way of life and our freedoms, especially the freedoms to hunt and bear arms.
It's literally good vs evil and you have squarely aligned yourself with the side of evil. All for personal gain best I can figure.
Everybody here has this figured out and that's why you catch the hell you do here.
Yet you continue to show up and post? that is a strange habit you leftist all seem to have in common, going where nobody likes you and yet you seek our approval? weird schit
But in your arrogant leftist bubble you convince yourself we are ignorant and lack intelligence to make yourself feel better about selling out to evil.
You share the same level of common sense Anhueser Busch has recently displayed... absoloutlfuckinclueless
You're delusional, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. The blowhards like you don't make a difference and in case you have failed to notice, many on this board don't like you either.
I wear it as a badge of honor that you and Greenhorn and Callnum don't like me....
Buzzy you Biden Boomer, for the 18th time where does all the dark political money come from donated to BHA
You always refuse to answer this very basic question
I bet again you will refuse to answer
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by irfubar
Buzzjob,
I am sure you have not noticed that we are engaged in a culture war with tyrannical Bolsheviks that are threatening our way of life and our freedoms, especially the freedoms to hunt and bear arms.
It's literally good vs evil and you have squarely aligned yourself with the side of evil. All for personal gain best I can figure.
Everybody here has this figured out and that's why you catch the hell you do here.
Yet you continue to show up and post? that is a strange habit you leftist all seem to have in common, going where nobody likes you and yet you seek our approval? weird schit
But in your arrogant leftist bubble you convince yourself we are ignorant and lack intelligence to make yourself feel better about selling out to evil.
You share the same level of common sense Anhueser Busch has recently displayed... absoloutlfuckinclueless
You're delusional, I don't care what you or anyone else thinks. The blowhards like you don't make a difference and in case you have failed to notice, many on this board don't like you either.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
list all of the public lands in Ohio taken away by Republicans. Just the top five this year
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
If you have to ask you best stick to pink spandex and bikes.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
If you have to ask you best stick to pink spandex and bikes.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
If you have to ask you best stick to pink spandex and bikes.
In the West I am aware of many land swaps, mineral leases etc.... but am unaware of any large public land sales or transfers to private parties... But Buzz & Callnum claim they are numerous , yet fail to provide even a single example
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
If you have to ask you best stick to pink spandex and bikes.
In the West I am aware of many land swaps, mineral leases etc.... but am unaware of any large public land sales or transfers to private parties... But Buzz & Callnum claim they are numerous , yet fail to provide even a single example
They cannot give an example because there are none.
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
I remember a guy saying that if you look at things purely from a sportsman's view, democrats try to take your guns and republicans try to take your hunting lands.
Not too incorrect.
What are some examples of Republicans trying to take hunting lands?
If you have to ask you best stick to pink spandex and bikes.
In the West I am aware of many land swaps, mineral leases etc.... but am unaware of any large public land sales or transfers to private parties... But Buzz & Callnum claim they are numerous , yet fail to provide even a single example
They cannot give an example because there are none.
Go look how many acres of state lands have been sold to private interests in Nevada. Pretty to easy to know what they would do with rest if the federal lands were transfered to them.
Are you simply pointing out that the GOP is going down the drain, or are you sort of backing into, agreement that BHA is more of a democrat-run organization?
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
Catch a clue, if you dare.
When the subject of public land being sold of by Republican politicians I was thinking federal land. Hadn't considered state land. The thing about state land in Montana it is generally isolated 1 mile squares, occasionally a couple square are next to each other but that is the exception rather than the rule, usually surrounded by private ag land. But if you exaggerate the threat it certainly makes for good fund raising...grifters will grift. Oh and in Montana we aren't allowed to camp on state land, hunt and fish yes, with a portion of our license fee going to the state.
Are you simply pointing out that the GOP is going down the drain, or are you sort of backing into, agreement that BHA is more of a democrat-run organization?
Not trying to stir anything up, just observing
I'm saying there are people, in particular public land users, that vote against ANY party or politicians that want to transfer federal lands to the states.
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
Catch a clue, if you dare.
When the subject of public land being sold of by Republican politicians I was thinking federal land. Hadn't considered state land. The thing about state land in Montana it is generally isolated 1 mile squares, occasionally a couple square are next to each other but that is the exception rather than the rule, usually surrounded by private ag land. But if you exaggerate the threat it certainly makes for good fund raising...grifters will grift. Oh and in Montana we aren't allowed to camp on state land, hunt and fish yes, with a portion of our license fee going to the state.
You're full of chit as usual, you absolutely can camp on state lands in Montana, I do it every year. It's also bullchit that state lands are all isolated small parcels. All kinds of WMA's are large state holdings.
You can bullshit the fans, but not the players...you're out of your depth.
Are you simply pointing out that the GOP is going down the drain, or are you sort of backing into, agreement that BHA is more of a democrat-run organization?
Not trying to stir anything up, just observing
I'm saying there are people, in particular public land users, that vote against ANY party or politicians that want to transfer federal lands to the states.
Period, end of story.
They vote that way because organizations such as yours instill fear in them.... so they vote for a Marxist and they are truly dangerous to liberty. Manipulating people is an old political game... but hey if you can earn wealth doing so, what the hell? right?
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
Catch a clue, if you dare.
When the subject of public land being sold of by Republican politicians I was thinking federal land. Hadn't considered state land. The thing about state land in Montana it is generally isolated 1 mile squares, occasionally a couple square are next to each other but that is the exception rather than the rule, usually surrounded by private ag land. But if you exaggerate the threat it certainly makes for good fund raising...grifters will grift. Oh and in Montana we aren't allowed to camp on state land, hunt and fish yes, with a portion of our license fee going to the state.
You're full of chit as usual, you absolutely can camp on state lands in Montana, I do it every year. It's also bullchit that state lands are all isolated small parcels. All kinds of WMA's are large state holdings.
You can bullshit the fans, but not the players...you're out of your depth.
WMA's are in no danger of being sold period!! And certain state parcels do not allow camping. And the vast majority are isolated 1 mile squares surrounded by private ag land!! any land status map will show that
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
Catch a clue, if you dare.
When the subject of public land being sold of by Republican politicians I was thinking federal land. Hadn't considered state land. The thing about state land in Montana it is generally isolated 1 mile squares, occasionally a couple square are next to each other but that is the exception rather than the rule, usually surrounded by private ag land. But if you exaggerate the threat it certainly makes for good fund raising...grifters will grift. Oh and in Montana we aren't allowed to camp on state land, hunt and fish yes, with a portion of our license fee going to the state.
You're full of chit as usual, you absolutely can camp on state lands in Montana, I do it every year. It's also bullchit that state lands are all isolated small parcels. All kinds of WMA's are large state holdings.
You can bullshit the fans, but not the players...you're out of your depth.
WMA's are in no danger of being sold period!! And certain state parcels do not allow camping. And the vast majority are isolated 1 mile squares surrounded by private ag land!! any land status map will show that
Very few state parcels are off limits to camping, changing your story when you spread misinformation. Typical liar and clueless hack.
Buzz, my concern is that you have not just come out and said you don't support the tranny/deep state/high taxes/let's go Brandon side.
And while you're free to think and feel how you want, it alarms me that BHA does seem to be more blue than red for sure
I agree with voting for your own concerns, and sometimes on a single issue. But there do not seem to be many conservatives on the board or leadership.
I am not a typical conservative, I am a libertarian. But democrats are a freak show of epic proportions and most people can say that on here pretty loudly.
You haven't. And I surmise it's due to your job and your need to appeal to a wide audience.
Which I get.
But on here, among fellow outdoorsmen, I would hope to see a lot less obfuscation.
I am a current BHA member, but pretty recently. Thought I was doing a good turn for the hunting world. Now I am questioning.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong...I hope I am not wrong on this. But it gives me pause
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
if you read this article, it is fear mongering fundraising grifting at it's finest....
Buzz & Callnum drink this schit up.... oh and make a few bucks of stuff like this. lmao
How many acres of state land that the feds gave to the western states have been sold off?
Take a look at Nevada, Utah, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, they sell it off for short term gain for the state trusts. That money is pissed away on all sorts of pet projects.
Read the study done out of Utah, if the feds gave the western states the land, they would have to sell the most valuable and best lands to be able to afford to manage the half that's left. For the record that study was funded with a appropriation by the Utah delegation that wanted to "prove" that the states could manage federal lands.
It's a bullchit idea that anyone with a single firing brain cells knows is hair brained and a total joke.
Thankfully BHA and most all the local hook and bullet orgs put a stop to that horseshit idea.
Public land transfer is purely a republican idea and is part of their platform. They own that stupid idea and for a vast majority of people that actually hunt, is a top priority for them at the ballot box.
The republicans are circling the drain, culture wars and giving away public lands to their wealthy donors is not helping their cause.
Catch a clue, if you dare.
When the subject of public land being sold of by Republican politicians I was thinking federal land. Hadn't considered state land. The thing about state land in Montana it is generally isolated 1 mile squares, occasionally a couple square are next to each other but that is the exception rather than the rule, usually surrounded by private ag land. But if you exaggerate the threat it certainly makes for good fund raising...grifters will grift. Oh and in Montana we aren't allowed to camp on state land, hunt and fish yes, with a portion of our license fee going to the state.
You're full of chit as usual, you absolutely can camp on state lands in Montana, I do it every year. It's also bullchit that state lands are all isolated small parcels. All kinds of WMA's are large state holdings.
You can bullshit the fans, but not the players...you're out of your depth.[/quote
WMA's are in no danger of being sold period!! And certain state parcels do not allow camping. And the vast majority are isolated 1 mile squares surrounded by private ag land!! any land status map will show that
Very few state parcels are off limits to camping, changing your story when you spread misinformation. Typical liar and clueless hack.
It was not my intention to mislead or lie. I was going by memory of being told camping was not allowed on a certain piece of state land and mistakenly thought it meant all state land. I use state land but not very often as it is almost not worth the effort as the hunting/fishing opportunities for me personally. I apologize for the misinformation.
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
Lol, public access has been shrinking in NF ever since you got your Californian education.
Keep blaring the public access horn, you work in the agency that is continually reducing it.
Buzz, my concern is that you have not just come out and said you don't support the tranny/deep state/high taxes/let's go Brandon side.
And while you're free to think and feel how you want, it alarms me that BHA does seem to be more blue than red for sure
I agree with voting for your own concerns, and sometimes on a single issue. But there do not seem to be many conservatives on the board or leadership.
I am not a typical conservative, I am a libertarian. But democrats are a freak show of epic proportions and most people can say that on here pretty loudly.
You haven't. And I surmise it's due to your job and your need to appeal to a wide audience.
Which I get.
But on here, among fellow outdoorsmen, I would hope to see a lot less obfuscation.
I am a current BHA member, but pretty recently. Thought I was doing a good turn for the hunting world. Now I am questioning.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong...I hope I am not wrong on this. But it gives me pause
I work for public lands, wildlife, wildlife habitat, hunting, fishing, and those things ARE my #1 priority and I make no apologies for voting for any politician that supports same. I also make no apologies for taking any politician to task that threatens any of my issues as well. And I won't vote for ones that don't support my priority issues.
It's that simple for me, I couldn't care less about the letter behind their name, it's whether or not they care about and support public lands, habitat, wildlife, hunting and fishing.
I've supported and voted for both R and D candidates if they align with what's most important to me.
Wyoming Governor Matt Meade (R(got my vote twice, he was awesome for habitat, sage grouse, wildlife, hunting, etc.
Wyoming Governor Dave Freudenthal (D) also got my vote for the same reason.
Fair enough. I can't be a single issue guy. Don't want to invite some guy into my home who says he is going to steal everything I own, but is gonna mow my lawn while he is here. I need a consistent stance on small govt, free markets, and personal freedoms.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
Lol, public access has been shrinking in NF ever since you got your Californian education.
Keep blaring the public access horn, you work in the agency that is continually reducing it.
Sorry pal, was born in Montana, 3rd generation and my degree in resource management is from UM.
Just because you have to hike to get there doesn't reduce your right to access it. Lace up those boots and get after it.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Ok but I have idiots who work for my company, too. Doesn't mean the whole company stands for what they do.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
I think if you're going to be successful in long term goals, you have to be willing to put in the work to get your concerns heard and things going your way by learning to deal with ALL politicians. Every single one seems to be agreeable to some extent for things like hunting, fishing, habitat, funding things like lwcf, migration corridors.
You have to work on the things each politician or party is agreeable to work on that are on your list of priorities.
They all do at least some things that align on them with, other things we just won't ever agree on. That's ok, that's called life. But unlike a lot of these clowns on the campfire, you can't start a conversation with [bleep] you and expect to get anything done.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Ok but I have idiots who work for my company, too. Doesn't mean the whole company stands for what they do.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Ryan Busse is no longer on the BHA national board and hasn't been for quite a while.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Ryan Busse is no longer on the BHA national board and hasn't been for quite a while.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Ok but I have idiots who work for my company, too. Doesn't mean the whole company stands for what they do.
He is more than just an employee...
He's not an employee never was.
You think I'm compensated as a BHA State Chair? Hilarious, costs me money traveling and having to take vacation to attend meetings, committee hearings, commission meetings, etc. Never taken a dime of compensation of any kind for anything I've done for BHA, 100% volunteer. All the state chapters are the same, all volunteers.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Fugg more lies.
Busse has nothing to do with BHA now. Cripes can anyone on the fire tell the truth?
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
You need to research Ryan Busse, he is a bigshot with the BHA and a gun control advocate. An advocate of the worst kind, he worked in the industry for years and now uses that as inside intell to destroy gun companies... the left loves him
Fugg more lies.
Busse has nothing to do with BHA now. Cripes can anyone on the fire tell the truth?
Buzz already updated me... so was he asked to leave?
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
Lol, public access has been shrinking in NF ever since you got your Californian education.
Keep blaring the public access horn, you work in the agency that is continually reducing it.
Sorry pal, was born in Montana, 3rd generation and my degree in resource management is from UM.
Just because you have to hike to get there doesn't reduce your right to access it. Lace up those boots and get after it.
Lol, would you say that gating and closing roads in the NF increased or decreased public access?
Every Montanan knows that a degree from UM is a Californian education.
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
Lol, public access has been shrinking in NF ever since you got your Californian education.
Keep blaring the public access horn, you work in the agency that is continually reducing it.
Sorry pal, was born in Montana, 3rd generation and my degree in resource management is from UM.
Just because you have to hike to get there doesn't reduce your right to access it. Lace up those boots and get after it.
Lol, would you say that gating and closing roads in the NF increased or decreased public access?
Every Montanan knows that a degree from UM is a Californian education.
Closing roads does not decrease access to NF. Buy boots you can still access any piece of NF if’s you aren’t lazy.
Oh and Calnum & Buzz, when Ryan was with the BHA, did either of you criticize his views on gun control?
He worked for Kimber the entire time he was on the board, life memberships came with Kimber firearms, both rifles and handguns.
What was there to criticize?
So I take it you were unaware of his stance on gun control at the time? Are you aware now?
Like I've said, and you and your pal liebka can't get through your thick skulls, I met Ryan briefly one time, doubt I said more than a couple dozen words to him.
Just how in the actual hell would I know someone's stance on much of anything when I spoke to them briefly one time?
I would have to guess nobody but his own family and maybe a few close friends knew his stance.
But, like I've said for about the 50th time, i didn't and still dont know the guy.
You and liebka know way more about him than I do. I spend my time advocating for wildlife, public lands, hunting, fishing, habitat.
Make no mistake UM is a Marxist indoctrination center
Right, that's why my Range Professor, Earl Willard booked a dall sheep hunt with Dan Montgomery after I introduced him to Earl at a sheep show in Missoula. He killed a 42 inch dall on the same glacier I killed my B&C ram a few years prior.
Almost all my forestry professors hunted and fished and I spent lots of time bullshitting them about same.
Pretty "Marxist", how would you know chit from low grade peanut butter about a place you never went to school at?
Oh and Calnum & Buzz, when Ryan was with the BHA, did either of you criticize his views on gun control?
He worked for Kimber the entire time he was on the board, life memberships came with Kimber firearms, both rifles and handguns.
What was there to criticize?
So I take it you were unaware of his stance on gun control at the time? Are you aware now?
Like I've said, and you and your pal liebka can't get through your thick skulls, I met Ryan briefly one time, doubt I said more than a couple dozen words to him.
Just how in the actual hell would I know someone's stance on much of anything when I spoke to them briefly one time?
I would have to guess nobody but his own family and maybe a few close friends knew his stance.
But, like I've said for about the 50th time, i didn't and still dont know the guy.
You and liebka know way more about him than I do. I spend my time advocating for wildlife, public lands, hunting, fishing, habitat.
That's my business. That's what I work for.
Why is that so challenging for you to understand?
Because your stance is refuse and you're a liar. GFY
Oh and Calnum & Buzz, when Ryan was with the BHA, did either of you criticize his views on gun control?
He worked for Kimber the entire time he was on the board, life memberships came with Kimber firearms, both rifles and handguns.
What was there to criticize?
So I take it you were unaware of his stance on gun control at the time? Are you aware now?
Like I've said, and you and your pal liebka can't get through your thick skulls, I met Ryan briefly one time, doubt I said more than a couple dozen words to him.
Just how in the actual hell would I know someone's stance on much of anything when I spoke to them briefly one time?
I would have to guess nobody but his own family and maybe a few close friends knew his stance.
But, like I've said for about the 50th time, i didn't and still dont know the guy.
You and liebka know way more about him than I do. I spend my time advocating for wildlife, public lands, hunting, fishing, habitat.
That's my business. That's what I work for.
Why is that so challenging for you to understand?
I am puzzled as are others as to why you never criticize people like Biden or any of his incompetent appointee's?
Maybe you don't for political favors?
I find it interesting you didn't hesitate to criticize Trump and his supporters.... you are a leftist and leftist lie in order to implement an agenda.
You think you are clever but your deflection and gaslighting is no longer working.
Lol, lifelong .gov employees lobbying lifelong .gov employees for the good of private citizens.
It is for your own good, you are just too stupid to understand how they are helping you.
How many miles of National forest roads have been closed under Lloyd’s watch?
380,000 miles of open roads on national forest lands, I'd offer to draw you a map, but you can buy one.
You have a phobia of hiking boots?
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough, like I said go travel the 380,000 miles of open roads available to you. Not every acre of national forest needs a road through it just because you're too lazy to hike.
Lol, public access has been shrinking in NF ever since you got your Californian education.
Keep blaring the public access horn, you work in the agency that is continually reducing it.
Sorry pal, was born in Montana, 3rd generation and my degree in resource management is from UM.
Just because you have to hike to get there doesn't reduce your right to access it. Lace up those boots and get after it.
Lol, would you say that gating and closing roads in the NF increased or decreased public access?
Every Montanan knows that a degree from UM is a Californian education.
Closing roads does not decrease access to NF. Buy boots you can still access any piece of NF if’s you aren’t lazy.
I understand your frustration caused by being silenced and banned from the state house chamber, maybe next session you can mind your manners. Or womanners, whatever.
Oh and Calnum & Buzz, when Ryan was with the BHA, did either of you criticize his views on gun control?
He worked for Kimber the entire time he was on the board, life memberships came with Kimber firearms, both rifles and handguns.
What was there to criticize?
So I take it you were unaware of his stance on gun control at the time? Are you aware now?
Like I've said, and you and your pal liebka can't get through your thick skulls, I met Ryan briefly one time, doubt I said more than a couple dozen words to him.
Just how in the actual hell would I know someone's stance on much of anything when I spoke to them briefly one time?
I would have to guess nobody but his own family and maybe a few close friends knew his stance.
But, like I've said for about the 50th time, i didn't and still dont know the guy.
You and liebka know way more about him than I do. I spend my time advocating for wildlife, public lands, hunting, fishing, habitat.
That's my business. That's what I work for.
Why is that so challenging for you to understand?
I am puzzled as are others as to why you never criticize people like Biden or any of his incompetent appointee's?
Maybe you don't for political favors?
I find it interesting you didn't hesitate to criticize Trump and his supporters.... you are a leftist and leftist lie in order to implement an agenda.
You think you are clever but your deflection and gaslighting is no longer working.
You're clueless and your post here is why I get things done and you never will.
You just don't understand what it takes, sucks to be you.
Oh and Calnum & Buzz, when Ryan was with the BHA, did either of you criticize his views on gun control?
He worked for Kimber the entire time he was on the board, life memberships came with Kimber firearms, both rifles and handguns.
What was there to criticize?
So I take it you were unaware of his stance on gun control at the time? Are you aware now?
Like I've said, and you and your pal liebka can't get through your thick skulls, I met Ryan briefly one time, doubt I said more than a couple dozen words to him.
Just how in the actual hell would I know someone's stance on much of anything when I spoke to them briefly one time?
I would have to guess nobody but his own family and maybe a few close friends knew his stance.
But, like I've said for about the 50th time, i didn't and still dont know the guy.
You and liebka know way more about him than I do. I spend my time advocating for wildlife, public lands, hunting, fishing, habitat.
That's my business. That's what I work for.
Why is that so challenging for you to understand?
I am puzzled as are others as to why you never criticize people like Biden or any of his incompetent appointee's?
Maybe you don't for political favors?
I find it interesting you didn't hesitate to criticize Trump and his supporters.... you are a leftist and leftist lie in order to implement an agenda.
You think you are clever but your deflection and gaslighting is no longer working.
You're clueless and your post here is why I get things done and you never will.
You just don't understand what it takes, sucks to be you.
For the record Land Tawney , a radical left wing kook and friend of buzzy and the current head of BHA started his career by forming A radical left wing and anti gun lobby called Montana sportsmen for Obama. This is where he started his grift and buzzy met him
Buzzy is this true? Can you confirm this?
Was land Tawney’s father leader of of the Montana Democratic Party and involved in pushing gun bans?
Only a deluded ego cetric fool like like buzzy thinks giving himself awards means anything. Buzzy wouldn’t lifet a finger to just do things for the common good
He’s an ego driven attention whore like his close friend Ryan Busse
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Still want to lie about camping being illegal on state lands?
Buzz, my concern is that you have not just come out and said you don't support the tranny/deep state/high taxes/let's go Brandon side.
And while you're free to think and feel how you want, it alarms me that BHA does seem to be more blue than red for sure
I agree with voting for your own concerns, and sometimes on a single issue. But there do not seem to be many conservatives on the board or leadership.
I am not a typical conservative, I am a libertarian. But democrats are a freak show of epic proportions and most people can say that on here pretty loudly.
You haven't. And I surmise it's due to your job and your need to appeal to a wide audience.
Which I get.
But on here, among fellow outdoorsmen, I would hope to see a lot less obfuscation.
I am a current BHA member, but pretty recently. Thought I was doing a good turn for the hunting world. Now I am questioning.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong...I hope I am not wrong on this. But it gives me pause
For the record Land Tawney , a radical left wing kook and friend of buzzy and the current head of BHA started his career by forming A radical left wing and anti gun lobby called Montana sportsmen for Obama. This is where he started his grift and buzzy met him
Buzzy is this true? Can you confirm this?
Was land Tawney’s father leader of of the Montana Democratic Party and involved in pushing gun bans?
Only a deluded ego cetric fool like like buzzy thinks giving himself awards means anything. Buzzy wouldn’t lifet a finger to just do things for the common good
He’s an ego driven attention whore like his close friend Ryan Busse
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Still want to lie about camping being illegal on state lands?
Buzz, my concern is that you have not just come out and said you don't support the tranny/deep state/high taxes/let's go Brandon side.
And while you're free to think and feel how you want, it alarms me that BHA does seem to be more blue than red for sure
I agree with voting for your own concerns, and sometimes on a single issue. But there do not seem to be many conservatives on the board or leadership.
I am not a typical conservative, I am a libertarian. But democrats are a freak show of epic proportions and most people can say that on here pretty loudly.
You haven't. And I surmise it's due to your job and your need to appeal to a wide audience.
Which I get.
But on here, among fellow outdoorsmen, I would hope to see a lot less obfuscation.
I am a current BHA member, but pretty recently. Thought I was doing a good turn for the hunting world. Now I am questioning.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong...I hope I am not wrong on this. But it gives me pause
Don't forget Land's sister Whitney. She's an influential lefty who started her career with Baucus in DC.
I believe the concern was over giving public land to states who would likely sell it when money is short in the future
yes ...this idea has been floating around forever.....and I do believe if the repubs had their way they would push it through.....bob
In the West that would be the end of their political career..... strawmen do not make for a good argument
but the fact is that the repubs have kicked this around forever .....there are a few polarizing things in politics that make people single issue voters...this is one of them.
its almost like abortion the repubs have a way of losing support on things that aren't going to change. but yet they still champion the ideas.
I care more about the 2a and public lands than I do about social issues...bob
Remember when you lied and you mixed up Deb Haaland with Tracy Stone Manning and said she was a convicted "eco-terrorist" and neither have been convicted of jack?
Buzz are you still working from home due to covid? I remember forest service employees were allowed to work from home (doing nothing and leaching off tax payers who had to show up at work) over 2 years.
Some still refuse to return to work
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough...
There's your answer. At least as good as you're going to get.
Obviously, part of Lloyd's mission is to close down as many roads in Federal land as possible.
Try hiking boots, you need the exercise.
I'm pretty sure I could walk you flat, you smug little bastard. One of my jobs was doing 15-20/day 6 days/week.
Haven't seen too many pictures of you, but if the rest of you matches your face...
Good point. Whitney Tawney another anti gun BHA zombie was in gun control Politics too in DC working for the left wing kook Baucus
Baucus voted to ban asault weapons. Basically any semi auto rifle that can hold more that ten rounds
Buzzy you were a big Baucus soy boy
Is this true?
Originally Posted by Bigvalleyboy
Originally Posted by ribka
For the record Land Tawney , a radical left wing kook and friend of buzzy and the current head of BHA started his career by forming A radical left wing and anti gun lobby called Montana sportsmen for Obama. This is where he started his grift and buzzy met him
Buzzy is this true? Can you confirm this?
Was land Tawney’s father leader of of the Montana Democratic Party and involved in pushing gun bans?
Only a deluded ego cetric fool like like buzzy thinks giving himself awards means anything. Buzzy wouldn’t lifet a finger to just do things for the common good
He’s an ego driven attention whore like his close friend Ryan Busse
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Still want to lie about camping being illegal on state lands?
Buzz, my concern is that you have not just come out and said you don't support the tranny/deep state/high taxes/let's go Brandon side.
And while you're free to think and feel how you want, it alarms me that BHA does seem to be more blue than red for sure
I agree with voting for your own concerns, and sometimes on a single issue. But there do not seem to be many conservatives on the board or leadership.
I am not a typical conservative, I am a libertarian. But democrats are a freak show of epic proportions and most people can say that on here pretty loudly.
You haven't. And I surmise it's due to your job and your need to appeal to a wide audience.
Which I get.
But on here, among fellow outdoorsmen, I would hope to see a lot less obfuscation.
I am a current BHA member, but pretty recently. Thought I was doing a good turn for the hunting world. Now I am questioning.
I am happy to admit when I am wrong...I hope I am not wrong on this. But it gives me pause
Don't forget Land's sister Whitney. She's an influential lefty who started her career with Baucus in DC.
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough...
There's your answer. At least as good as you're going to get.
Obviously, part of Lloyd's mission is to close down as many roads (AKA access) in Federal land as possible.
Word is buzzy hunts elk on these closed forest service roads that are closed off to the public. He thinks he’s exempt because he helps manage these roads just like when buzzy worked for Ted Turner and he built high fences to keep elk herds on his ranch then sold hunts for big bucks
Buzz, The Feds own about 1/2 of the land in the West. How much more of it should the Feds own?
As much as they can buy with lwcf money with a priority on critical wildlife habitat and increasing access to the current federal land holdings.
Any questions?
just a reminder. This is what Buzzy, his friends Land Tawney pushed for with their Montana sportsmen for Obama political lobby. Losttrail is in on this too
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By CAITLIN EMMA 05/12/2016 11:11 PM EDT The Obama administration Friday morning took another historic step in its aggressive defense of civil rights, sending a letter to schools across the country notifying them that transgender students must be permitted to use bathrooms that align with their gender identity.
An amazing demon drag queen has entertained children in Michelle Obama’s library
Land Tawney has also overseen the Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund. In the 2011-12 election cycle, this PAC took in nearly two million dollars—largely from the America Votes Action Fund. This fund has a mission of pushing progressive policies and increasing voter turnout for Democratic candidates. America Votes is largely funded by the secretive Democracy Alliance, financed by billionaire investor George Soros. It should come as no surprise that Montana Hunters and Anglers Leadership Fund spent its money opposing the Republican Senate candidate in Montana. Part of this strategy involved $500,000 in support of the Libertarian candidate, in hopes of drawing votes away from the Republican.
In the Obama years, Tawney helped start the Montana Sportsmen for Obama Committee.
Hi Zoey, Its good to hear from you. Still upset Gov Gianforte won't let you mutilate the genitals of Montana children? lol
Did your hero and fellow Obama worshipper Land Tawney start the Montana Sportsmen for Obama political action committee you moron?
Its in his own Bio just like in Buzzy's online Bio he worked for Ted Turner
Buzzy has come on here and bragged he supported Obama
Its really becoming clear why they did now.
No wonder everyone knows what an evil joke BHA is and this organization is a radical left wing anti hunting, anti gun group full of kooks like you, buzzy, Land Tawney, Charles Post, Dan "I love to attack 11 years old girls in Montana fly shops" Bailey , Randy " I pimp public hunting to make a quick buck then lie about it" Newberg, Tom Shoe's founder who donated over 50 million to gun control.......
Busse was the leader of BHA and helped found it. All of BHA leadership is vehemently anti gun like Buzzy. So now you're saying leaders of an organization don't set the agenda and policy of said organization?
JFC. How naive are you?
Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Fair enough. I can't be a single issue guy. Don't want to invite some guy into my home who says he is going to steal everything I own, but is gonna mow my lawn while he is here. I need a consistent stance on small govt, free markets, and personal freedoms.
Thanks for responding like you did. Was hoping you didn't take my honest questions as an insult.
I see you have outlined your own beliefs.
How do you feel they echo BHAs official positions?
I read their statement on their commitment to the 2nd amendment and I see a lot of pro gun talk.
But let's be honest about Tawney and others. It seems clear to me they are not simply open minded and waiting to see what candidate says what, in order to choose a side
They are being played as useful idiots and personally profiting, selling out to the enemy, then virtue signaling about what great volunteer work they do yet personally profiting is the definition of grifting.
Then when challenged they project their wrong doings onto others... everyone is a liar, uneducated, stupid etc.....
Notice how Buzz will not answer uncomfortable questions? because he can't, it will destroy his narrative and prove his dishonesty.
Yet he won't hesitate to name call, pick the most inconsequential inaccuracies , grammar errors etc... of his opponents to bolster his arguments ... sure signs of a leftist with an agenda.
Hell it wasn't long ago Buzz was supporting wolf re-introduction and belittling any one that complained it was harming their hunting success as incompetent hunters.
A just prior to that Buzz bragged about his $20k a month retirement pension.
He also bragged about scouting hunting areas on the job while being paid.
Just yesterday he gaslighted me challenging my assertion that UM was a Marxist indoctrination center... his professor hunted Dall sheep and that proves he is not Marxist... hahahah.... interesting that these noble educators can afford $30k sheep hunts... hell, serving the evil masters is a good paying gig.
They are being played as useful idiots and personally profiting, selling out to the enemy, then virtue signaling about what great volunteer work they do yet personally profiting is the definition of grifting.
Then when challenged they project their wrong doings onto others... everyone is a liar, uneducated, stupid etc.....
Notice how Buzz will not answer uncomfortable questions? because he can't, it will destroy his narrative and prove his dishonesty.
Yet he won't hesitate to name call, pick the most inconsequential inaccuracies , grammar errors etc... of his opponents to bolster his arguments ... sure signs of a leftist with an agenda.
Hell it wasn't long ago Buzz was supporting wolf re-introduction and belittling any one that complained it was harming their hunting success as incompetent hunters.
A just prior to that Buzz bragged about his $20k a month retirement pension.
He also bragged about scouting hunting areas on the job while being paid.
Just yesterday he gaslighted me challenging my assertion that UM was a Marxist indoctrination center... his professor hunted Dall sheep and that proves he is not Marxist... hahahah.... interesting that these noble educators can afford $30k sheep hunts... hell, serving the evil masters is a good paying gig.
The good 'ol lead ban...
BHA will be an ardent supporter of that - probably already lobbied for it. All their flat-billed influencers have already done videos on it.
They are being played as useful idiots and personally profiting, selling out to the enemy, then virtue signaling about what great volunteer work they do yet personally profiting is the definition of grifting.
Then when challenged they project their wrong doings onto others... everyone is a liar, uneducated, stupid etc.....
Notice how Buzz will not answer uncomfortable questions? because he can't, it will destroy his narrative and prove his dishonesty.
Yet he won't hesitate to name call, pick the most inconsequential inaccuracies , grammar errors etc... of his opponents to bolster his arguments ... sure signs of a leftist with an agenda.
Hell it wasn't long ago Buzz was supporting wolf re-introduction and belittling any one that complained it was harming their hunting success as incompetent hunters.
A just prior to that Buzz bragged about his $20k a month retirement pension.
He also bragged about scouting hunting areas on the job while being paid.
Just yesterday he gaslighted me challenging my assertion that UM was a Marxist indoctrination center... his professor hunted Dall sheep and that proves he is not Marxist... hahahah.... interesting that these noble educators can afford $30k sheep hunts... hell, serving the evil masters is a good paying gig.
They are being played as useful idiots and personally profiting, selling out to the enemy, then virtue signaling about what great volunteer work they do yet personally profiting is the definition of grifting.
Then when challenged they project their wrong doings onto others... everyone is a liar, uneducated, stupid etc.....
Notice how Buzz will not answer uncomfortable questions? because he can't, it will destroy his narrative and prove his dishonesty.
Yet he won't hesitate to name call, pick the most inconsequential inaccuracies , grammar errors etc... of his opponents to bolster his arguments ... sure signs of a leftist with an agenda.
Hell it wasn't long ago Buzz was supporting wolf re-introduction and belittling any one that complained it was harming their hunting success as incompetent hunters.
A just prior to that Buzz bragged about his $20k a month retirement pension.
He also bragged about scouting hunting areas on the job while being paid.
Just yesterday he gaslighted me challenging my assertion that UM was a Marxist indoctrination center... his professor hunted Dall sheep and that proves he is not Marxist... hahahah.... interesting that these noble educators can afford $30k sheep hunts... hell, serving the evil masters is a good paying gig.
A question for Buzz... how did you manage to create a fortune that provides you with a $20k a month pension while doing all this volunteer work?
Not to mention time spent on several forums convincing the peons you are worthy? how does a guy do this? honest question.
Maybe it's like the senator with his $174k salary affording several multimillion dollar homes?
Lobbyist employment packages are excellent?
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What? you mean he gets paid? I thought it was volunteer work, things we are too stupid to even comprehend? good grief I am starting to get the feeling someone is not being truthful
A question for Buzz... how did you manage to create a fortune that provides you with a $20k a month pension while doing all this volunteer work?
Not to mention time spent on several forums convincing the peons you are worthy? how does a guy do this? honest question.
Maybe it's like the senator with his $174k salary affording several multimillion dollar homes?
Lobbyist employment packages are excellent?
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What? you mean he gets paid? I thought it was volunteer work, things we are too stupid to even comprehend? good grief I am starting to get the feeling someone is not being truthful
Plus a daily per diem including mileage whilst hunting - I mean volunteering.
Row, row, row your boat in the swamp, but call yourself good for hunters and hunting.
Buzz, is just another pos politician playing to his and his handlers advantage.
How many miles of NF roads have been closed under your watch? Simple question for a public access warrior such as yourself.
Not enough...
There's your answer. At least as good as you're going to get.
Obviously, part of Lloyd's mission is to close down as many roads in Federal land as possible.
Try hiking boots, you need the exercise.
Buzz you crack us up. So the forest service and you gate off roads to the public sportsmen in Wyoming and then you , being a forest service employee, go road hunt elk in your truck. I doubt you hiked more than 2 miles in 2022
who has a bigger pot belly? You or your little soy boy Burns?
A question for Buzz... how did you manage to create a fortune that provides him with a $20k a month pension while doing all this volunteer work?
Not to mention time spent on several forums convincing the peons you are worthy? how does a guy do this? honest question.
Maybe it's like the senator with his $174k salary affording several multimillion dollar homes?
Govt employees get one point one per cent a year for each year of service. At the top end FS employee living in WY might make around 100,000 k a year in management as a GS 13 after 25 years. This is a high end estimate. Buzz worked for Ted Turner, according to his bio from 98 to 2000. So employment would start after 2000
Take 1.1 times 25. years and there's your percent of 100,000. So around 28 per cent of 100,000 or $28,000 a year. Divide by 12 months is your monthly take then take away fed taxes and healthcare around $1000 a month in Buzz's case take home pay. ADD TSP bennies.
Buzz's TSP ( federal 401 k). has tanked over 20 per cent under his hero Biden. Lol not a good time to retire is it Buzzy under your hero Biden?
A question for Buzz... how did you manage to create a fortune that provides him with a $20k a month pension while doing all this volunteer work?
Not to mention time spent on several forums convincing the peons you are worthy? how does a guy do this? honest question.
Maybe it's like the senator with his $174k salary affording several multimillion dollar homes?
Govt employees get one point one per cent a year for each year of service. At the top end FS employee living in WY might make around 100,000 k a year in management as a GS 13 after 25 years. This is a high end estimate. Buzz worked for Ted Turner, according to his bio from 98 to 2000. So employment would start after 2000
Take 1.1 times 25. years and there's your percent of 100,000. So around 28 per cent of 100,000 or $28,000 a year. Divide by 12 months is your monthly take then take away fed taxes and healthcare around $1000 a month in Buzz's case take home pay. ADD TSP bennies.
Buzz's TSP ( federal 401 k). has tanked over 20 per cent under his hero Biden. Lol not a good time to retire is it Buzzy under your hero Biden?
His employment info including salary should be public information if he works for the .gov
BHA vigorously opposed President Trump’s nominee to head of the Bureau of Land Management, calling him a “zealot” whose “views and actions should repulse any- one who cares about our shared landscapes.”4 Tawney promoted a Tweet comparing the President Trump to Joe Exotic, the infamous convicted criminal, animal abuser, and would-be-murderer.5
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Color me impressed. Very impressed. How do you manage to keep that butterball figure doing that much walking?
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
It’s funny how many of Buzz’s friends are multi millionaire Montana left wing transplants that buy Montana family farms and ranches and then shut the public out
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Color me impressed. Very impressed. How do you manage to keep that butterball figure doing that much walking?
By hiking every day, and clean living.
I packed all or a part of 11 elk last year, a bull moose, a pronghorn, and 5 deer.
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
I saw less horse schit when I mucked out the horse stalls the other day
Or collaborate on a comic book celebrating your super human feats. Lol
Thanks for the chuckle again Buzz
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Color me impressed. Very impressed. How do you manage to keep that butterball figure doing that much walking?
By hiking every day, and clean living.
I packed all or a part of 11 elk last year, a bull moose, a pronghorn, and 5 deer.
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
2023 ytd, 6.83%.
My personal best year was 58.62%. That same year, a few lucky people invested fully in the s fund, 78%.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
2023 ytd, 6.83%.
My personal best year was 58.62%. That same year, a few lucky people invested fully in the s fund, 78%.
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by ribka
Lol. What’s TSP returns 2022? It sure isn’t 6 to 7 per cent a year. It was around NEGATIVE 26 per cent
2023 returns are in the red and trending down big time
Next year 2024 market trend is negative too
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Bigvalleyboy
His employment info including salary should be public information if he works for the .gov
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
2023 ytd, 6.83%.
My personal best year was 58.62%. That same year, a few lucky people invested fully in the s fund, 78%.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Ask buzz how you can truck hunt elk and deer on closed forest service roads in Wyoming like he does
Originally Posted by Backroads
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
I don't have an ATV or a pot belly Lloyd.
You can't endorse closing hundreds of miles of public access roads and also claim to be a warrior for public access.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
There are a lot of people with physical limitations. I'd like for them to have access too. But then again, I'm not in it just for me.
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
2023 ytd, 6.83%.
My personal best year was 58.62%. That same year, a few lucky people invested fully in the s fund, 78%.
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by ribka
Lol. What’s TSP returns 2022? It sure isn’t 6 to 7 per cent a year. It was around NEGATIVE 26 per cent
2023 returns are in the red and trending down big time
Next year 2024 market trend is negative too
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Bigvalleyboy
His employment info including salary should be public information if he works for the .gov
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
2023 ytd, 6.83%.
My personal best year was 58.62%. That same year, a few lucky people invested fully in the s fund, 78%.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
There are a lot of people with physical limitations. I'd like for them to have access too. But then again, I'm not in it just for me.
They do, 380,000 miles worth just on FS lands. Hundreds of thousands more on BLM, nps, state lands, etc.
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
There are a lot of people with physical limitations. I'd like for them to have access too. But then again, I'm not in it just for me.
I know about 50 per cent still refuse to return work. No where in their contract does it say they have a right to remain at home permanently and refuse to work
Now they have to pass a law to get the lazy do nothing schitbags like to actually go to work instead of sitting home and refusing to work
You lying union piece of garnbage and you still defend.
Your union members where all non essential and MIA during the first 2 years of covid and you called them heroes. lmao
Clowns admire clowns
I never met a union "leader" that wasn't allergic to work and wasn't a fat azzed blow hard and you're no exception
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by ribka
Buzzy youre a federal employee union rep. It’s been three years and your union members refuse to return work yet get paid
Why do you defend this?
Dummy/liebka, tommybot,
Every federal employee has either telework, remote work, or required to return to office agreements in place.
Why do choose to live in ignorance and lie nonstop?
You specialize in screwing over middle class working Americans by grifting, lying and bragging about how great you are as a low level govt slackkee bureaucrat.
How tall are you Buzz About 5'4" in heels lol
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
There are a lot of people with physical limitations. I'd like for them to have access too. But then again, I'm not in it just for me.
Remember when you lied and you mixed up Deb Haaland with Tracy Stone Manning and said she was a convicted "eco-terrorist" and neither have been convicted of jack?
Buzzy support thousands of union federal workers who refuse to work. IRS over year behind in tax returns, military vets denied care, Social security refuse to answer phones process claims
Are you proud Buzzy screwing over hard working tax payers?
Remember when you lied and you mixed up Deb Haaland with Tracy Stone Manning and said she was a convicted "eco-terrorist" and neither have been convicted of jack?
Lol
Hi Zoey. are still supporting genital multilation of Montana children ?
Remember when you lied and you mixed up Deb Haaland with Tracy Stone Manning and said she was a convicted "eco-terrorist" and neither have been convicted of jack?
Lol
remember when the anti hunting organization nominated a dangerous violent ecoterrorist to run BLM
Biden must pull Stone-Manning BLM nomination if he's serious about domestic terrorism Stone-Manning sent a disturbing letter to the US Forest Service on behalf of ecoterrorists, then covered up their crimes and lied to the Senate. John BarrassoOpinion contributor View Comments
President Joe Biden has called domestic terrorism one of the most serious security threats facing America. In June, his National Security Council even issued a strategy to combat it. So why is he standing by one of his own nominees who collaborated with ecoterrorists and lied to the Senate to cover up her actions?
On April 22, President Biden nominated Tracy Stone-Manning to lead the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Land Management.
With more than 10,000 employees, BLM manages roughly an eighth of the nation’s land, including nearly 65 million acres of forest. That land holds about 30% of our nation’s minerals and is used for a variety of functions, including energy development, livestock grazing, mining, recreation and timber harvesting.
The lands managed by BLM make up the majority of territory in many Western states, including my home state of Wyoming. Whoever leads this agency must have the faith and trust of the American people. Ms. Stone-Manning’s nomination violates that trust.
Involved with ecoterror tactic
Ms. Stone-Manning lied to the Senate about her past association with an ecoterrorist cell that hammered 500 pounds of metal spikes into trees in Idaho’s Clearwater National Forest in 1989. She anonymously sent a disturbing and threatening letter to the U.S. Forest Service on behalf of the ecoterrorists and then spent years covering up their crimes.
Zoey Lost trail said BHA never supported gun control and has no association with Land Tawney
Here is their own social media that once proves he is a pathological liar.
Land Tawney in DC working as a highly paid gun control lobbyist
Originally Posted by losttrail60
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by Backroads
The math gets a bit funny when you trumpet public access as your only reason to vote, yet you are part of the closing of miles and miles of public access from FS roads…
Too lazy to walk? Or isn't 380,000 miles of public roads on our national forests enough for you to drive around on?
There's a reason I've shot 83 elk...and, here's a pro tip, you don't do it driving around road hunting.
Finally, since when is having to hike a denial of public access?
Go buy some boots...and use them.
Lloyd, why would anyone believe you are a single issue voter on public land access while crowing about closing hundreds of miles of public access in National Forests? It seems like you are FOS.
You are not for general public access to public lands, if only obviously.
I understand that you are actually a wilderness society loony that likes to hunt and has a ridiculous pot belly.
Hiking isn't general public access to public lands?
Since when?
Sell your ATV and invest in boots.
There are a lot of people with physical limitations. I'd like for them to have access too. But then again, I'm not in it just for me.
Remember when you lied and you mixed up Deb Haaland with Tracy Stone Manning and said she was a convicted "eco-terrorist" and neither have been convicted of jack?
Lol
Zoey is a coward like buzzy. They run away when you prove what spreaders of disinformation they are
So, Basically, aside from the proven support for gun-grabbing, BHA (and especially Lloyd) are frauds when they claim they want hunting access.
They don't want hunting access for everybody, Buzz especially just wants it for Gov't employees with 3 months vacation every year, a job that allows you to scout the land you are going to hunt by driving around it while you are on the clock. BHA & Buzz want existing roads on Federal land to be shut down (to you anyway. Buzz has keys for gates.) BHA & Buzz don't think that 50% Federal ownership of the West is enough. There are prime parcels that Buzz wants the Govt to buy and close the roads so that only he can hunt them.
Buzz: You don't have 3 months to hunt? FU. You don't have 3 months vacation so you can spend days scouting? FU. You don't have a FS job riding around hunting land & scouting on the clock? FU. You don't have 3 months vacation so you can spend 4+ days walking in & out somewhere to hunt? FU. You have a disability that prevents you from backpacking long distances? FU.
That's just Buzz's attitude. If you aren't exactly like him, FU.
Here's a picture of Buzz allegedly scouting, but doing a photo-op to complain about something. Notice the photographer was nice enough to not include the vehicles on the FS road in the picture. This is probably a more accurate view of how Buzz scouts and hunts, but FU anyway.
Funny enough, Buzz doesn't look like someone who does much walking.
This just goes to show that Progressives are just Nazis that think they are superior to the plebes.
26 days worth of hiking around looking at rams in the North Fork of the Shoshone. Non hackers like you wouldn't hold up, and you'd be lucky to make it past the trailhead out of pahaska.
You're a mental midget.
Hard to know how many miles I hiked in those 26 days, just kept moving and looking for rams.
Found one with about 5 days left in the season that had an excellent cape and was 9 years old. It was time to kill a ram. Perfect day for it, 14 miles one way from the truck.
26 days worth of hiking around looking at rams in the North Fork of the Shoshone. Non hackers like you wouldn't hold up, and you'd be lucky to make it past the trailhead out of pahaska.
You're a mental midget.
Hard to know how many miles I hiked in those 26 days, just kept moving and looking for rams.
Found one with about 5 days left in the season that had an excellent cape and was 9 years old. It was time to kill a ram. Perfect day for it, 14 miles one way from the truck.
As expected, more "FU" from Buzzy.
A Unionized Federal employee who has zero understanding of people who work for a living. Federal employees are mostly leeches, and ALL unionized Feds are leeches.
26 days worth of hiking around looking at rams in the North Fork of the Shoshone. Non hackers like you wouldn't hold up, and you'd be lucky to make it past the trailhead out of pahaska.
You're a mental midget.
Hard to know how many miles I hiked in those 26 days, just kept moving and looking for rams.
Found one with about 5 days left in the season that had an excellent cape and was 9 years old. It was time to kill a ram. Perfect day for it, 14 miles one way from the truck.
Is that what you are offering as the reason for yours and BHAs support of Haaland?
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
One trip out.
Left the meat there, huh? Around here, we call that "wanton waste".
It's pretty obvious you are a Fudd too. The "guns for me but not for thee" attitude goes with your progressivism and Federal employment.
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
One trip out.
Look over there, not at my support for Haaland.
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a peasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
One trip out.
Look over there, not at my support for Haaland.
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
You should find an honest source for your news... it has been disproven with the release of the Jan 6 tapes that Hawley was at the tail end of a rushed evacuation of house members, literally a dozen plus of them all running... as they were told to do! For a smart college educated wizard you sure aren't capable of critical thinkin, guess they don't teach that at the marxist school? they did teach you to be a good sheep though So who's the liar now?
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a pheasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a pheasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
good luck Buzzjob, you are gonna need it!!!
There's no luck involved, do some research clown.
Coming storm...lol.
Crawl out of the bunker once in a while.
Says the fool that believed Josh Hawley ran in fear from terrorist... You keep believing in the ponzi scheme your overlords have told you to believe in...meanwhile I will live in realville and prepare to continue to be independent and successful. With zero help from the goobermint!!!!
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
You are the John Burns of deception. Rather than face facts that expose your lies and misdirection, you try to avoid the real situation because you can’t refute your poor character and association with known leftists. You continue to forge ahead with irrelevant posts, avoiding the truth of your chosen path of what suits you is only what matters…
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
You are the John Burns of deception. Rather than face facts that expose your lies and misdirection, you try to avoid the real situation because you can’t refute your poor character and association with known leftists. You continue to forge ahead with irrelevant posts, avoiding the truth of your chosen path of what suits you is only what matters…
Shrap... buzzjob swallowed the marxist kool-aid.... he is a member of the cult now
Since all of us know why you don't want to touch the original topic, I'll play with this. Do you not believe that with our country 32 trillion in debt, that debt escalating dramatically, no plan for fixing it and the stock market defying historical odds of correction, that there is pain in our financial future? Add that banks are starting to fail to the mix. Many are predicting a looming recession, to include your beloved CNN.
From a logical standpoint, it seems those who believe that there is a financial storm coming are on steady ground and those who don't, have their head buried in the bunker.
Since all of us know why you don't want to touch the original topic, I'll play with this. Do you not believe that with our country 32 trillion in debt, that debt escalating dramatically, no plan for fixing it and the stock market defying historical odds of correction, that there is pain in our financial future? Add that banks are starting to fail to the mix. Many are predicting a looming recession, to include your beloved CNN.
From a logical standpoint, it seems those who believe that there is a financial storm coming are on steady ground and those who don't, have their head buried in the bunker.
Now Paul... buzzjob is college educated and we are ignorant deplorables, we should probably simply stay in our lanes and keep paying those tax's so his pension will be intact.
Since all of us know why you don't want to touch the original topic, I'll play with this. Do you not believe that with our country 32 trillion in debt, that debt escalating dramatically, no plan for fixing it and the stock market defying historical odds of correction, that there is pain in our financial future? Add that banks are starting to fail to the mix. Many are predicting a looming recession, to include your beloved CNN.
From a logical standpoint, it seems those who believe that there is a financial storm coming are on steady ground and those who don't, have their head buried in the bunker.
Since all of us know why you don't want to touch the original topic, I'll play with this. Do you not believe that with our country 32 trillion in debt, that debt escalating dramatically, no plan for fixing it and the stock market defying historical odds of correction, that there is pain in our financial future? Add that banks are starting to fail to the mix. Many are predicting a looming recession, to include your beloved CNN.
From a logical standpoint, it seems those who believe that there is a financial storm coming are on steady ground and those who don't, have their head buried in the bunker.
Buzz says he doesn't know Ryan Busse, never met him although they worked together for years at the anti gun BHA. Buzz says BHA is pro firearms
But their social media, and loooong record of funding anti gun politics says differently
This is a recent BHA posting loving Ryan Busse and he lobbies in DC to ban firearms. Look at all of the likes and hearts. Buzzy caught lying again for BHA
Buzz went to a third their school and never took a serious math or science class so that should indicate level of intelligence
He is good at lying though. But as a BHA spokesmen he is paid to go on sportsmen sites and lie and deflect any criticism from BHA. Everyone is on the grift now though buzzy wuzzy
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Coming storm...lol.
Since all of us know why you don't want to touch the original topic, I'll play with this. Do you not believe that with our country 32 trillion in debt, that debt escalating dramatically, no plan for fixing it and the stock market defying historical odds of correction, that there is pain in our financial future? Add that banks are starting to fail to the mix. Many are predicting a looming recession, to include your beloved CNN.
From a logical standpoint, it seems those who believe that there is a financial storm coming are on steady ground and those who don't, have their head buried in the bunker.
Now Paul... buzzjob is college educated and we are ignorant deplorables, we should probably simply stay in our lanes and keep paying those tax's so his pension will be intact.
Hey lying dummy. The released Jan 6th tapes shows that video was edited. I just watched it a few weeks ago
Why do you embrace lies and spread them so much buzzy wuzzy? Are you capable of speaking anything of truth? Did BHA hire you because of your ability as a pathological liar? lol
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Just to horn to you up some more...
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
One trip out.
Look over there, not at my support for Haaland.
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
American military vets can't get any help because so many Vet admin employees refuse to show up to work. As a union scumbag leech why do you defend this travesty?
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by Bigvalleyboy
His employment info including salary should be public information if he works for the .gov
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a pheasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
[/b]This why BHA Buzzy supports left wing anti gun Haaland who never had a job in her life at age 50. Never held a job!!!!
Haaland on gun control:
[b]Extend waiting periods from 3 to 10 days
The vote speaks for itself. That was the response I received from Rep. Xochitl Torres Small's office when I sought a comment on her vote on the "Charleston loophole" gun safety bill. She broke ranks from her Democratic colleagues in voting against extending the waiting period for gun sales from three days to 10. She was one of only seven Democrats who voted against the bill. Her New Mexico colleagues, Reps. Ben Ray Lujan and Deb Haaland, supported the measure. Source: Albuquerque Journal on 2019 NM-1 House incumbent , Mar 2, 2019 We need 100% background checks, & close gun show loophole
We must take on the NRA! We must keep guns out of the hands of people who should never have a [gun. We] need 100% background checks and to close loophole--especially with gun shows. We need to rid our communities of military-grade weapons.We need to strip the power of the NRA with commitments from elected officials to NOT ACCEPT campaign contributions.No one should live in fear of attending a concert, dancing at a nightclub, or going to school. Source: 2018 NM-1st House campaign website DebForCongress.com , Oct 9, 2018
Ban assault weapons; we need national buy-back program
Q: Given recent events in New Mexico and across the nation, what would you do to address gun violence? A: Our children's lives are more important than any companies' right to earn a profit on guns. I support a ban on the sale of assault weapons, implementation of comprehensive background checks and closing the gun show loophole. We need a national buy-back program with no questions asked. I also believe we need a comprehensive national mental health- care plan to ensure we stop violence before
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by BuzzH
Just to horn to you up some more...
Spent 16 days before the season hiking around looking for desert rams. Found a vast majority of the rams in the unit, actually found more than the biologists thought lived in the unit.
Liked this one enough to kill it about 45 minutes into the season.
One trip out.
Look over there, not at my support for Haaland.
Where's the video of Hawley running from the January 6 terrorist's?
Here is a perfect example of why Buzzy is effective at getting things done and why some here on the Campfire will never be a part of the Grownup Discussion.
The Whiners spend all day sitting on the couch bitchin on the Campfire and guys like Buzzy are moving the needle in the direction they want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Both of Buzzy's Wyoming Senators voted against the new Sec Interior.
Did both of your Senators vote against the new Sec Interior?
Nobody here is going to change Buzzy mind and would agree with him on a few points.
Quit whining about Buzzy and get involved in your local politics so you can move the needle in the direction your want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Nobody is trying to "out hunt" Buzzy. In fact, I don't think anybody cares how much he hunts except maybe you.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Nobody is trying to "out hunt" Buzzy. In fact, I don't think anybody cares how much he hunts except maybe you.
Thanks Tyrone for quoting bon jurns... I refuse to toggle his ignore status... Figures Burns thinks this is a dick measuring contest... talk about clueless... if he would say sane relevant things I may unignore him... or not...
Burns you sell Ar 15s but were kicked off the biggest AR forum for threatening violence against member s on there
comment?
You're just like that violent deranged buddy of Buzz's BHA Dan Bailey who is on video threatening Tucker Carlson and his young daughter in a Montana fly shop
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Here is a perfect example of why Buzzy is effective at getting things done and why some here on the Campfire will never be a part of the Grownup Discussion.
The Whiners spend all day sitting on the couch bitchin on the Campfire and guys like Buzzy are moving the needle in the direction they want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Both of Buzzy's Wyoming Senators voted against the new Sec Interior.
Did both of your Senators vote against the new Sec Interior?
Nobody here is going to change Buzzy mind and would agree with him on a few points.
Quit whining about Buzzy and get involved in your local politics so you can move the needle in the direction your want it moved.
Here is a perfect example of why Buzzy is effective at getting things done and why some here on the Campfire will never be a part of the Grownup Discussion.
The Whiners spend all day sitting on the couch bitchin on the Campfire and guys like Buzzy are moving the needle in the direction they want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Both of Buzzy's Wyoming Senators voted against the new Sec Interior.
Did both of your Senators vote against the new Sec Interior?
Nobody here is going to change Buzzy mind and would agree with him on a few points.
Quit whining about Buzzy and get involved in your local politics so you can move the needle in the direction your want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Nobody is trying to "out hunt" Buzzy. In fact, I don't think anybody cares how much he hunts except maybe you.
Thanks Tyrone for quoting bon jurns... I refuse to toggle his ignore status... Figures Burns thinks this is a dick measuring contest... talk about clueless... if he would say sane relevant things I may unignore him... or not...
Of course Burns is hoping this has something to do with d1cks - he's a cockmongler.
Here is a perfect example of why Buzzy is effective at getting things done and why some here on the Campfire will never be a part of the Grownup Discussion.
The Whiners spend all day sitting on the couch bitchin on the Campfire and guys like Buzzy are moving the needle in the direction they want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Both of Buzzy's Wyoming Senators voted against the new Sec Interior.
Did both of your Senators vote against the new Sec Interior?
Nobody here is going to change Buzzy mind and would agree with him on a few points.
Quit whining about Buzzy and get involved in your local politics so you can move the needle in the direction your want it moved.
It's interesting that you would come to the defense of fraud and try to silence those who want to expose it.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Nobody is trying to "out hunt" Buzzy. In fact, I don't think anybody cares how much he hunts except maybe you.
Thanks Tyrone for quoting bon jurns... I refuse to toggle his ignore status... Figures Burns thinks this is a dick measuring contest... talk about clueless... if he would say sane relevant things I may unignore him... or not...
Of course Burns is hoping this has something to do with d1cks - he's a cockmongler.
Did you see the meme Roger posted on Burns facebook? holy crap that's some advanced level trolling right there... lmao
Here is a perfect example of why Buzzy is effective at getting things done and why some here on the Campfire will never be a part of the Grownup Discussion.
The Whiners spend all day sitting on the couch bitchin on the Campfire and guys like Buzzy are moving the needle in the direction they want it moved.
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Both of Buzzy's Wyoming Senators voted against the new Sec Interior.
Did both of your Senators vote against the new Sec Interior?
Nobody here is going to change Buzzy mind and would agree with him on a few points.
Quit whining about Buzzy and get involved in your local politics so you can move the needle in the direction your want it moved.
It's interesting that you would come to the defense of fraud and try to silence those who want to expose it.
Burns is just butthurt, nobody is buying his B.S. so he befriends anyone he can....
Keep whining about anything but what any of you have actually got done.
Who saw that coming?
what's your blood pressure now Johnny? You look like a bloated tick with a ripe tomato head in a recent Wy arms video. I can see all of the broken blood vessels on your nose too and you were out of breath just trying to talk
Keep whining about anything but what any of you have actually got done.
Who saw that coming?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Homosexual much?
You prance around like a little bitch, cuddling up to whatever male you think is "cool".
I wonder why Buzzy is effective in Grownup Disscussions and why TryBone is an envious anonymous poster hiding behind her keyboard here on the Campfire while getting nothing done?
Buzzy the pathological liar Buzz states that he doesn't know who anti gun nutter BHA Busse is but worked with him for years at the anti gun org BHA. On the BHA web site is states that they attended meetings together
What's your take on this pathological liar?
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Keep whining about anything but what any of you have actually got done.
Who saw that coming?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Homosexual much?
You prance around like a little bitch, cuddling up to whatever male you think is "cool".
I wonder why Buzzy is effective in Grownup Disscussions and why TryBone is an envious anonymous poster hiding behind her keyboard here on the Campfire while getting nothing done?
You whiners need to quit trying to out hunt a guy that has done more hunting in a year than many of you will do in a lifetime and get involved in worthy causes.
Nobody is trying to "out hunt" Buzzy. In fact, I don't think anybody cares how much he hunts except maybe you.
Thanks Tyrone for quoting bon jurns... I refuse to toggle his ignore status... Figures Burns thinks this is a dick measuring contest... talk about clueless... if he would say sane relevant things I may unignore him... or not...
Of course Burns is hoping this has something to do with d1cks - he's a cockmongler.
Did you see the meme Roger posted on Burns facebook? holy crap that's some advanced level trolling right there... lmao
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a pheasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
good luck Buzzjob, you are gonna need it!!!
There's no luck involved, do some research clown.
Coming storm...lol.
Crawl out of the bunker once in a while.
Hey Buzz,
Are you still lurking out there?
Upon further reflection I believe this needs revisiting as it displays the fundamental differences between us.
Lets start with the statement "no luck involved"
Lets do a hypothetical.... say the indexed equity fund you are invested in has half of the corporations go woke.. they pull a Budweiser and as a result the stock value plummets.
So did this result in bad luck for you when you lost value? or maybe the fund invested in a number of financial institutions and the rising interest rates made them insolvent and their value plunged , is that bad luck for you?
The other side of that coin lets say the company made some very good decisions and value increased , if no luck on your part was involved that would mean you had a hand in that companies decision making.... I will say you had absolutely nothing to do with it.
So the statement, no luck is a one way street by your definition, it goes your way you are an investing genius...go against you and you a victim of someone else bad decision. Things don't work that way in the real world.
You better hope luck is on your side when you reach retirement age that your indexed fund is in the positive. If it is the negative your hypothetical withdrawl rate of 4.75% will chew through your principle faster than a fat kid a the Golden Corral dessert bar.
Now lets address the assertion that I should do my "research" and that I am an uniformed, uneducated clown....
Number one, you need to continue to work in order to feed your retirement accounts correct?
So your investments aren't paying you a nickel as of today, correct?
You cannot access those accounts without significant penalties, correct? the government tells you when and how much.
Now my uneducated investment strategy involves zero stocks and bonds, zero retirement tax deferred accounts... and I bet you howl with laughter at my ignorance, correct?
But I did do my "research" and invested my money and labor also.... I took a different path, in the free market, sink or swim, no guarantees. I had to make my own success.
Even then there was some luck involved, not near as much luck as your investments required.
See I have 100% control over my investments, yes 100% !
I started my uninformed , uneducated investment path about 20 yrs ago when I quit my job. The peak of my earning years I made $50K , even had an S&P indexed 401K
I saved my money by living in a travel trailer for 7 yrs parked in a dirt lot behind the shop where I worked.
I took that seed money and started investing. The investing went well. I reinvested the profits over and over. I was able to quit working in 10 yr time span.
My investments had grown enough and provided enough cash flow to provide me with a comfortable wage. I quit working 12 yrs ago, I am 62 now.
My investment are still appreciating in value, the recent inflation has been like rocket fuel for this appreciation and my cash flow continues to climb.
The government cannot tell me how much I can withdraw or when.
I don't have to work more than 1 hr a week....
So while you toil away at your government job, hoping and praying the markets are going your direction when you reach retirement age I will have been living the life of leisure for around 15 yrs.....
And you call me the clown? hahahahhahahahahahahaha
And I didn't even address the fact you had to sell your soul to evil in order to get what you have and think you will have.
Maybe you should ask UM for a refund on that tuition? you certainly got an A+ in the course were they taught you that you are better than the little people.
The irony of all this is just too much fun..... clown world indeed... lmfao
Buzzh H. " BHA does not engage in gun control politics and does not want to ban firearms and as a BHA spokesman I have never met or heard of Ryan Busse leader and founder of BHA and you're a pathological liar if you state otherwise"
The irony just gets better and better.... the clowns Buzz sold his soul to are the most corrupt incompetent leaders we have had in modern times and odds are good they will tank the economy and the value of Buzzjobs portfolio. hahahahhahahahaha
Well I'll be dipped in schit.... kinda reminds me of Judman, bragging like he was makin bank yet public records showed he topped out at $45K year....
Maybe the lobbyist job and the volunteer positions payed bank ?
Isn't the www great, you can be anything you want.... lmfao
The only thing shorter than your pecker is your memory. I said combined retirement income for my wife and I $20k/month.
The only thing worse than your math skills is your ability to shoot a big game animal.
Let's do some math. My pension and SS will be $6k a month. Rental income another $2k, or if we decide to sell the rental another $300-350k to invest. So that's $96k. Throw in the wife's SS, another 2k a month. So $120k before touching IRA's, 401, and tsp.
I've invested a minimum of 20%, up to the federal limit of my gross income since 1987 in IRA's and TSP.
Between my wife's 401, my TSP, and our IRA's, in 6 years projecting normal s&p 500 growth, 6-7%, 2.5 million conservatively, probably closer to 3 million.
We've settled on drawing 4.5% from those accounts a year, advanced college math...another $112k a year.
What does $112,000+120,000 come up to?
Exactly what I told you a long time ago, $230-245k a year, or 20k a month.
It isn't complicated, it's simple math.
Well Dave Ramsey would certainly be proud of you....
I will admit it takes discipline to pay off 2 homes and max out retirement accounts for decades on a $50k a year salary, I assume the wife has a similar wage?
I bet you are the guy when the lunch tab comes due you are counting out the exact amount in change that you owe... hahahha... live like a pheasant now for future promises.
So lets break this financial empire down..
You have a 401K invested in an fund indexed to the S&P, that was a smart move.. in the past. Price to earnings on the S&P varies but is currently about 26 to 1.
A healthy ratio is 15 to 1... so you have a potential 40% correction in the future... hmmm that will destroy your projected 6 to 7% percent returns... as they say past earning do not indicate future earnings... read the fine print... college boy.... my guess is your current $1 mil could be reduced to $600k if you retire during the downturn.
Ok so lets look at S.S. your cola increases are tied to the CPI index, the CPI is manipulated by .gov and inflation is destroying the value of the USD as we speak, so you are going backwards there.
Ok lets move on to the gooberment pension... the goobermint is broke, like 3.275 trillion broke and getting more broke every day. But as long as the gooberment can squeeze a more money out of the tax payer you will likely get your benjamins there, but again thanks to inflation it won't buy much.
Now the one bright light in your portfolio is the income producing real estate... better hold on tight to that rental... a hint... you can actually raise rents with the inflation storm we are facing... that is if the goobermint hasn't taken all the renters money with the tax's required to support your pension?
I am not a very smart nor educated man like you but I see a financial storm heading straight for buzzards porfolio and no place to hide... but hey you are the college educated one!
The irony of all this is the current corrupt inept politicians creating this coming financial storm are the crooks you support!
With my lack of intelligence and education, I will wait for the 40% stock market correction then jump in with both feet after I liquidate my portfolio that is 95% sheltered from the coming storm...
good luck Buzzjob, you are gonna need it!!!
There's no luck involved, do some research clown.
Coming storm...lol.
Crawl out of the bunker once in a while.
Hey Buzz,
Are you still lurking out there?
Upon further reflection I believe this needs revisiting as it displays the fundamental differences between us.
Lets start with the statement "no luck involved"
Lets do a hypothetical.... say the indexed equity fund you are invested in has half of the corporations go woke.. they pull a Budweiser and as a result the stock value plummets.
So did this result in bad luck for you when you lost value? or maybe the fund invested in a number of financial institutions and the rising interest rates made them insolvent and their value plunged , is that bad luck for you?
The other side of that coin lets say the company made some very good decisions and value increased , if no luck on your part was involved that would mean you had a hand in that companies decision making.... I will say you had absolutely nothing to do with it.
So the statement, no luck is a one way street by your definition, it goes your way you are an investing genius...go against you and you a victim of someone else bad decision. Things don't work that way in the real world.
You better hope luck is on your side when you reach retirement age that your indexed fund is in the positive. If it is the negative your hypothetical withdrawl rate of 4.75% will chew through your principle faster than a fat kid a the Golden Corral dessert bar.
Now lets address the assertion that I should do my "research" and that I am an uniformed, uneducated clown....
Number one, you need to continue to work in order to feed your retirement accounts correct?
So your investments aren't paying you a nickel as of today, correct?
You cannot access those accounts without significant penalties, correct? the government tells you when and how much.
Now my uneducated investment strategy involves zero stocks and bonds, zero retirement tax deferred accounts... and I bet you howl with laughter at my ignorance, correct?
But I did do my "research" and invested my money and labor also.... I took a different path, in the free market, sink or swim, no guarantees. I had to make my own success.
Even then there was some luck involved, not near as much luck as your investments required.
See I have 100% control over my investments, yes 100% !
I started my uninformed , uneducated investment path about 20 yrs ago when I quit my job. The peak of my earning years I made $50K , even had an S&P indexed 401K
I saved my money by living in a travel trailer for 7 yrs parked in a dirt lot behind the shop where I worked.
I took that seed money and started investing. The investing went well. I reinvested the profits over and over. I was able to quit working in 10 yr time span.
My investments had grown enough and provided enough cash flow to provide me with a comfortable wage. I quit working 12 yrs ago, I am 62 now.
My investment are still appreciating in value, the recent inflation has been like rocket fuel for this appreciation and my cash flow continues to climb.
The government cannot tell me how much I can withdraw or when.
I don't have to work more than 1 hr a week....
So while you toil away at your government job, hoping and praying the markets are going your direction when you reach retirement age I will have been living the life of leisure for around 15 yrs.....
And you call me the clown? hahahahhahahahahahahaha
And I didn't even address the fact you had to sell your soul to evil in order to get what you have and think you will have.
Maybe you should ask UM for a refund on that tuition? you certainly got an A+ in the course were they taught you that you are better than the little people.
The irony of all this is just too much fun..... clown world indeed... lmfao