He needed to die and the Trumpster did it. He said he would take preemptive strikes and he did.
The article does not say we were behind it, though we may have been. If we were, then good on us, but nothing in that article said it was us who fired the rockets. Stay tuned I'm sure. May not make any difference whether we were behind it or not. We generally don't use that type of rocket.
It is ironic he was apparently killed with a couple of Katyusha rockets as he was recently in Russia looking for an arms deal. Evidently he got a "free sample".
The head of a dangerous snake. Quds is Iran's specal operation schittstirrers that build proxy armies (aka terror networks) in foreign countries they want to undermine to spread the wonderful totalitarian political and economic system known as Islam.
It is ironic he was apparently killed with a couple of Katyusha rockets as he was recently in Russia looking for an arms deal. Evidently he got a "free sample".
Got to agree that it quite possibly wasn't us that took him out. Can't see us using Russian rockets.
It is ironic he was apparently killed with a couple of Katyusha rockets as he was recently in Russia looking for an arms deal. Evidently he got a "free sample".
Got to agree that it quite possibly wasn't us that took him out. Can't see us using Russian rockets.
I'm pretty sure it was the US. With the caveat that my days in the IDF are long past, I know that we (Israel) used to have a large store of Katyushas that were captured in Lebanon. Those things are not accurate, unless they've been modified in some way to launch from, say, a helicopter or drone with something like a JDAM kit. I could see the US borrowing a few Katyushas for this purpose, but it would have had to have been launched from a US aircraft that can operate freely in Iraq.
Maybe the CIA is back to doing its job like it's supposed to, instead of spying on American citizens and messing with our elections. They used to use the other side's weapons and tactics when they wanted to pull some dirty tricks, just to cover their tracks. Do any of you old geezers remember Air America? Jerry
It is ironic he was apparently killed with a couple of Katyusha rockets as he was recently in Russia looking for an arms deal. Evidently he got a "free sample".
Got to agree that it quite possibly wasn't us that took him out. Can't see us using Russian rockets.
I'm pretty sure it was the US. With the caveat that my days in the IDF are long past, I know that we (Israel) used to have a large store of Katyushas that were captured in Lebanon. Those things are not accurate, unless they've been modified in some way to launch from, say, a helicopter or drone with something like a JDAM kit. I could see the US borrowing a few Katyushas for this purpose, but it would have had to have been launched from a US aircraft that can operate freely in Iraq.
Maybe the CIA is back to doing its job like it's supposed to, instead of spying on American citizens and messing with our elections. They used to use the other side's weapons and tactics when they wanted to pull some dirty tricks, just to cover their tracks. Do any of you old geezers remember Air America? Jerry
You gots to be chitting me.... Iran and current government in Iraq are all chummy they are both Shia Muslims.. also been reported for yrs, qud forces with this GEN, were helping the Iraqi insurgents and were responsible for 100’s of US deaths in Iraq. They were also for bringing in their top bomb makers during the war too teach the insurgents how to build bigger and more effective ied’s. I’m surprised this guy lasted this long..
You gots to be chitting me.... Iran and current government in Iraq are all chummy they are both Shia Muslims.. also been reported for yrs, qud forces with this GEN, were helping the Iraqi insurgents and were responsible for 100’s of US deaths in Iraq. They were also for bringing in their top bomb makers during the war too teach the insurgents how to build bigger and more effective ied’s. I’m surprised this guy lasted this long..
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He was preparing a other American attack. Trump was saying we would be preemptive as the attack that killed the bastid was being carried out.
It was an American attack. We would not have used Katysha rockets, with or without JDAM modifications. Air attack, possibly from drones, using Hellfires or the equivalent.
Maybe now Iran will understand the difference between a warning and a threat.
What was a top ranking general of Iran doing in iraq???
Seriously?
You’re Hero Zero would’ve just sent him some American Cash to finance more attacks on Americans.
This^^^• Its why the cash was released to them in the first place. It's why the WHouse under Zero had to clear each US strike against a military target US forces found.
Good riddance! As long as Trump doesnt get tricked into into another drawn out ground campaign in the desert by the warhawks in DC, blow all them raghead bastids up! Fugg the Iraqis too, if they dont wanna cooperate with us, let them to their own devices. Glad im out and dont hafta worry about returning to that desert hellhole again!
There is still a population of Iranians living in the USA. They need to be removed.
Why?
Most Iranians I have met want nothing to do with the Iranian regime.
Exactly. One of my best female friends is Iranian by birth. Her family left after the overthrow of Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi. She's as American as apple pie and chevy stepsides.
They attack our embassy. Trump says they will pay. 24 hours later MFer is effing Dead. Holy "F".
New sheriff ain't the old sheriff is he?
The new Sheriff actually has a SET.
The old “Sherriff’s WIFE had the only SET between them.
As I have previously said on numerous occasions,there is a new sheriff in town. Many on the left know it and they know they are going down, by their own hand or by the hands of Trump, Barr and Durham.
The airport strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, deputy commander of Iran-backed militias in Iraq known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, and five others, including the PMF's airport protocol officer, Mohammed Reda, Iraqi officials said.
Most of them I have met work in a gas station combo quick stop type store and hate Americans.
Ya I know what you mean. It is interesting to see them with missing fingers or thumbs and it makes you wonder how they lost them
Most of our Iranian refugees/immigrants are Christians who were persecuted for being Christian in Iran. Or at least the ones I have met. They do not love the Iranian regime at all. They do love their country, not the leaders.
Most of them I have met work in a gas station combo quick stop type store and hate Americans.
Ya I know what you mean. It is interesting to see them with missing fingers or thumbs and it makes you wonder how they lost them
Most of our Iranian refugees/immigrants are Christians who were persecuted for being Christian in Iran. Or at least the ones I have met. They do not love the Iranian regime at all. They do love their country, not the leaders.
Yes.
Most that I know are here because the current regime did very bad things to their family, and they are happy to return the favor.
“Four precision missiles fired from a U.S. drone struck the two black Hyundai cars carrying Soleiman and his entourage, according to U.S. officials. The cars were struck on an access road near the Baghdad airport.”
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“The strike also killed Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the deputy commander of Iran-backed militias in Iraq known as the Popular Mobilization Forces, which were responsible for the recent attack on the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, officials said.”
“Two officials from the PMF said Suleimani's body was torn to pieces in the attack, while they did not find the body of al-Muhandis.”
Those Iranian uniforms remind me of the Nazi SS black uniforms. Very sinister and evil looking . .
well of course Black uniforms make people more evil like Red paint makes Ferraris go faster.
except that the SS troopers that carried out the most ruthless widespread Ops/atrocities in WW2 theatre of war did not wear black. and currently, the extremely ruthless cutthroat rebel islamic militias that the Iranian Quds train in extraterritorial ops, typically don't wear black uniforms and neither do the Quds.
Originally Posted by 1minute
If he was Iranian, what was he doing in Iraq?
Iranian Quds operate like Green Berets , in fact they wear Green Berets because in the 60s U.S. Green Berets trained the Iranians and they were issued green berets and still wear them to this day.
Quds have been training Shia militia groups in Iraq and Syria, just like US GBs trained the Montagnard tribesmen of the Vietnamese central highlands, islamic insurgents in Bosnia, Mujahideen in Afghanistan , etc, etc, etc. GBs specialize in extraterritorial location training of local and insurgent recruits.
Those Iranian uniforms remind me of the Nazi SS black uniforms. Very sinister and evil looking . .
well of course Black uniforms make people more evil like Red paint makes Ferraris go faster.
except that the SS that carried the most ruthless Ops/atrocities in WW2 theatre of war did not wear black. and currently, the extremely ruthless cutthroat rebel islamic militias that the Iranians train in extraterritorial ops, typically don't wear black uniforms.
Originally Posted by 1minute
If he was Iranian, what was he doing in Iraq?
Iranian Quds operate like Green Berets , in fact they wear Green Berets because in the 60s U.S. Green Berets tried the Iranians and they are issued green berets and still wear them to this day.
Quds have been training Shia militia groups in Iraq and Syria, just like US GBs trained the Montagnard tribesmen of the Vietnamese central highlands.
Black is such a great color for extremely hot venues... slimming, yes it is slimming!
Iranians will have to find someone else dumb enough to lead their terrorism effort with the 150 billion Obama bucks they got. Ever since Jimmie Kotta empowered them they have been a thorn in everyone's side. I guess the traitors Obama and Omar will go to the funeral.
as valerie jarrett, obongo, horse head kerry, and the rest of the deep state globalist commies, as well as the entire democrap pres lineup shed New Years tears due to TDS! suck it muther-fu-kers!
All the democrat presidential candidates have denounced Trump.
If they had been around in 1941, they probably would have denounced the brave American sailors on battleship row who dared to shoot back at the Japanese planes.
The next logical step--if needed--would be the termination of Iran's domestic oil refining. This would not affect their oil exports to countries such as Japan but would terminate most of the gasoline they need to run their economy. We could do this without a single US soldier getting within 500 miles. And without nukes.
Karma thanks to a responsive POTUS. This piece of [bleep] has been killing US Troops for 15+ years with no reprisals. Iran is a Huff-in-Puff regime always claiming its greatness and capabilities all the while being a broke terrorist exporter with little world wide capability to do anything. What are they gonna do cry to Mother Russia that has an economy the size of Italy. Wars cost money, both Iran and Russia have none. US should use covert ops to keep sticking it to Iran, then use plausible deniability. “You know schitt happens, things blow up in the Middle East all the time.”
Does anyone know the details, have they been released ? What kind of missiles were used, I did hear the number was three used, how were they delivered / Drone, plane or land based ? And what was the total score in dead guys, cars and planes?
It sounds like a well oiled machine carried out this mission, great job guys and girls !
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
Does anyone know the details, have they been released ? What kind of missiles were used, I did hear the number was three used, how were they delivered / Drone, plane or land based ? And what was the total score in dead guys, cars and planes?
It sounds like a well oiled machine carried out this mission, great job guys and girls !
I can't find the link now, but I read somewhere that it was a couple of Hellfire missiles fired by a Predator drone, destroying 2 vehicles and killing 7 people total. Don't quote me on that, though. It was clearly a CIA organized attack, as they had obviously been watching both parties and knew exactly where they were and their comings and goings. They were just waiting for the perfect shot that would minimize collateral damage to innocent? Iraqi civilians and their property. Edit: further research shows that the Predator drone was retired by the Air Force back in 2018, so it's likely it was a Reaper drone that was used.
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Sounds about right. The Libs and their diversity schitt ...always afraid we might make the muzzles mad. Hell...they want to kill us all..how much madder could they get?
Hope someone rubbed a little bacon grease on those missiles, on the sly of course, don't want any scandal associated with the assassination of this dirtbag.
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Sounds about right. The Libs and their diversity schitt ...always afraid we might make the muzzles mad. Hell...they want to kill us all..how much madder could they get?
Hey, we're diverse. We blow up Iranian, Syian, and Somali Muslims without discriminating by race or any of that LGBTQWERTY stuff either. Obama mostly killed white American terrorists off his list, without any of the due process he wanted for foreign scum.
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
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Do you understand the relationship between Iraq and Iran?
I just saw that dow futures were down cause this dude got killed. How could killing an Iranian be considered bad news?
Wars, including the threat of war often has a initial negative effect on our economy, most likely due to feelings of unease and uncertainties involved. People just reel in their money and sit on it until they feel things are more stable. After the conclusion of a war the economy generally has upwards swings.
Historically war has also effected elections.
Never has a President in wartime been defeated, including two times when war clouds hovered, but we were not technically at war.
James Madison, the War of 1812, reelected in 1812 Abraham Lincoln, the Civil War, reelected in 1864 Woodrow Wilson, World War I, not at war but nearing it, reelected in 1916 Franklin D. Roosevelt, World War II, not at war but nearing it, reelected in 1940, and then at war, reelected in 1944. Lyndon B. Johnson, using the Vietnam War issue through the Gulf of Tonkin, elected in 1964 Richard Nixon, Vietnam War, reelected in 1972 George W. Bush, Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, reelected in 2004 and of course Obama.
This does not include James K. Polk, who chose not to run for reelection AFTER the end of the Mexican War in 1848; William McKinley, reelected AFTER the Spanish American War’s end, in 1900; Harry Truman, who chose not to run in 1952 during the Korean War; Lyndon B. Johnson, who chose not to run during the Vietnam War in 1968; and George H. W. Bush, who was triumphant during the Persian Gulf War, but then lost 18 months later for reelection in 1992, due to the bad economy and the candidacy of Ross Perot helping Bill Clinton to win in a three way race.
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
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Do you understand the relationship between Iraq and Iran?
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Sounds about right. The Libs and their diversity schitt ...always afraid we might make the muzzles mad. Hell...they want to kill us all..how much madder could they get?
What most dont know, is that the head dims want them, or Putin, or China or Kim to kill most of us now.
That's why the Puppet hillary said she would shoot Putins planesout of the sky over Syria, to start nuclear war. That's why the puppet Bill financed NKs nuclear program and sold nuclear guidance tech to china and it's why puppet Zero helped finance Irans nuclear program while making a sham nuclear treaty deal that was uninforcable.
They are but puppets of the NWO wheels. Now, who controls their controllers that put them in power.
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Sounds about right. The Libs and their diversity schitt ...always afraid we might make the muzzles mad. Hell...they want to kill us all..how much madder could they get?
What most dont know, is that the head dims want them, or Putin, or China or Kim to kill most of us now.
That's why the Puppet hillary said she would shoot Putins planesout of the sky over Syria, to start nuclear war. That's why the puppet Bill financed NKs nuclear program and sold nuclear guidance tech to china and it's why puppet Zero helped finance Irans nuclear program while making a sham nuclear treaty deal that was uninforcable.
They are but puppets of the NWO wheels. Now, who controls their controllers that put them in power.
I find it odd Zero, your hero, released $150 billion to help finance Irans terrorist acts, Suliamani, and irans sham nuclear nuclear treaty and some are too dumb to connect the dots and swallow the deep states fake news BS.
News this AM reported that he showed up at the airport for a meeting with others. Mentioned it was a fairly bold move, from someone that is typically very secretive. News also stated that the vehicles were hit using a drone delivered missile.
“Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran's Quds force, was among five people killed when an American Reaper drone fired missiles at two cars carrying him and other senior officials out of Baghdad airport early Friday morning.
The senior general, commonly known as the second-most powerful man in Iran and tipped as a future president, was so badly maimed in the strike that he had to be identified by a large ring he wore on his finger.
Soleimani had arrived at the airport on a plane from either Syria or Lebanon around 12.30am when he was met on the tarmac by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, deputy commander of the pro-Iran Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq.
Muhandis pulled up to the aircraft steps in two cars before Soleimani and Mohammed Ridha Jabri, public relations chief for the PMF who had been traveling with him, climbed inside and were driven away.
Moments later, as the cars passed through a cargo area headed for an access road leading out of the airport, the convoy was struck by four missiles fired by an MQ-9 Reaper drone.
Both vehicles were instantly reduced to smoldering wrecks - killing Soleimani, Muhandis, Jabri and two others who have yet to be identified.”
No. They (Iran) have been pressing destabilization in Iraq for some time, and had become unfettered with their involvement, specifically high profile targets becoming more fluid with their travels into Iraq.
Trump played possum with Soleimani, just like he did with ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi. Both let their egos overrun their sense of self-preservation.
When Trump Al-Baghdadi was taken out the second and third ISIS leaders were also taken out shortly after that. I wonder who is racing to fill Solemani's seat?
The MQ-9 Reaper is an armed, multi-mission, medium-altitude, long-endurance remotely piloted aircraft that is employed primarily against dynamic execution targets and secondarily as an intelligence collection asset. Given its significant loiter time, wide-range sensors, multi-mode communications suite, and precision weapons -- it provides a unique capability to perform strike, coordination, and reconnaissance against high-value, fleeting, and time-sensitive targets.
Reapers can also perform the following missions and tasks: intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance, close air support, combat search and rescue, precision strike, buddy-lase, convoy/raid overwatch, target development, and terminal air guidance. The MQ-9's capabilities make it uniquely qualified to conduct irregular warfare operations in support of combatant commander objectives.
Features
The MQ-9 baseline system carries the Multi-Spectral Targeting System, which has a robust suite of visual sensors for targeting. The MTS-B integrates an infrared sensor, color/monochrome daylight TV camera, image-intensified TV camera, laser range finder /designator, and laser illuminator. The full-motion video from each of the imaging sensors can be viewed as separate video streams or fused.
The unit also incorporates a laser range finder/designator, which precisely designates targets for employment of laser-guided munitions, such as the Guided Bomb Unit-12 Paveway II. The Reaper is also equipped with a synthetic aperture radar to enable future GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munitions targeting. The MQ-9 can also employ four laser-guided , Air-to-Ground Missile (AGM)-114 Hellfire missiles, which provide highly accurate, low-collateral damage, anti-armor and anti-personnel engagement capabilities.
In its secondary role as an ISR asset, the MQ-9 is part of a system that support strike aircraft and ground commanders by acquiring and tracking dynamic targets or other useful intelligence. It is also capable of supporting a wide ranger of operations such as coastal and border surveillance, weapons tracking, embargo enforcement, humanitarian/disaster assistance, support of peacekeeping and counter-narcotic operations. Utilizing satellite communication links, the RPA can acquire and pass real-time imagery data to ground users around the clock, and beyond-line-of-sight (BLOS).
The remotely piloted aircraft can be disassembled and loaded into a single container for deployment worldwide. The entire system can be transported in the C-130 Hercules, or larger aircraft. The MQ-9 aircraft operates from standard U.S. airfields with clear line-of-sight to the ground data terminal antenna, which provides line-of-sight communications for takeoff and landing. The PPSL provides over-the-horizon communications for the aircraft and sensors.
The primary concept of operations, remote split operations, employs a launch-and-recovery ground control station for take-off and landing operations at the forward operating location, while the crew based in continental United States executes command and control of the remainder of the mission via beyond-line-of-sight links. Remote split operations result in a smaller number of personnel deployed to a forward location, consolidate control of the different flights in one location, and as such, simplify command and control functions as well as the logistical supply challenges for the weapons system.
Background
The U.S. Air Force proposed the MQ-9 Reaper system in response to the Department of Defense directive to support initiatives of overseas contingency operations. It is larger and more powerful than the MQ-1 Predator, and is designed to execute time-sensitive targets with persistence and precision, and destroy or disable those targets. The "M" is the DOD designation for multi-role, and "Q" means remotely piloted aircraft system. The "9" indicates it is the ninth in the series of remotely piloted aircraft systems.
General characteristics
Primary function: find, fix, and finish targets Contractor: General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc. Power plant: Honeywell TPE331-10GD turboprop engine Thrust: 900 shaft horsepower maximum Wingspan: 66 feet (20.1 meters) Length: 36 feet (11 meters) Height: 12.5 feet (3.8 meters) Weight: 4,900 pounds (2,223 kilograms) empty Maximum takeoff weight: 10,500 pounds (4,760 kilograms) Fuel capacity: 4,000 pounds (602 gallons) Payload: 3,750 pounds (1,701 kilograms) Speed: cruise speed around 230 mph (200 knots) Range: 1,150 miles (1,000 nautical miles) Ceiling: Up to 50,000 feet (15,240 meters) Armament: combination of AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, GBU-12 Paveway II and GBU-38 Joint Direct Attack Munitions Crew (remote): two (pilot and sensor operator) Unit cost: $64.2 million (includes four aircraft, sensors, GCSs, and Comm.) (fiscal 2006 dollars) Initial operating capability: October 2007 Inventory: total force, 93
“Qassem Soleimani, head of Iran's Quds force, was among five people killed when an American Reaper drone fired missiles at two cars carrying him and other senior officials out of Baghdad airport early Friday morning.
The senior general, commonly known as the second-most powerful man in Iran and tipped as a future president, was so badly maimed in the strike that he had to be identified by a large ring he wore on his finger.
Soleimani had arrived at the airport on a plane from either Syria or Lebanon around 12.30am when he was met on the tarmac by Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, deputy commander of the pro-Iran Popular Mobilization Forces in Iraq.
Muhandis pulled up to the aircraft steps in two cars before Soleimani and Mohammed Ridha Jabri, public relations chief for the PMF who had been traveling with him, climbed inside and were driven away.
Moments later, as the cars passed through a cargo area headed for an access road leading out of the airport, the convoy was struck by four missiles fired by an MQ-9 Reaper drone.
Both vehicles were instantly reduced to smoldering wrecks - killing Soleimani, Muhandis, Jabri and two others who have yet to be identified.”
It's high time our European allies sucked it up and stopped whining like children afraid of the school yard bully..They should know by now Trump is not Obama,
as valerie jarrett, obongo, horse head kerry, and the rest of the deep state globalist commies, as well as the entire democrap pres lineup shed New Years tears due to TDS! suck it muther-fu-kers!
The yellow bellied dims are in fear the Muzzies are going to kill a lot more of us now. Their idea is to leave terrorists alone if they are only killing our foreign servicemen.
Yep. And the Halfican would have sent them another $150 Million or more, and invited them to a White House Dinner 😡
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
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Do you understand the relationship between Iraq and Iran?
I understand the difference between friend and foe, do you?
General Soleimani: - He's the guy who ordered the attack that killed an American - He's the guy who ordered the embassy siege - He was under UN sanction against any travel outside Iran, so - Why was he in Iraq? Obviously, to plan the next embassy assault.
One day the do nothing Trump.sits on his Benghazi, hours later he's a murderer. Iirc we weren't in a declared war with Lybia when the Biotch of Benghazi came and conquered Kadhafy.
So Sicketmore is worried about retaliation. Maybe Trump will send Komeany a message about Kadhafy.
To understand why he was in Iraq, you have to know the Sunni / Shia divide.
Baghdad is surrounded with Shia. Iran is Shia. If he was a few hours north of Baghdad, he would have his head cut off gleefully. That is Sunni country. The same place ISIS had a footprint. Not as far north as the Kurds though.
Spent a lot of time there. It’s a long story, but one going on for centuries.
To understand why he was in Iraq, you have to know the Sunni / Shia divide.
Baghdad is surrounded with Shia. Iran is Shia. If he was a few hours north of Baghdad, he would have his head cut off gleefully. That is Sunni country. The same place ISIS had a footprint. Not as far north as the Kurds though.
Spent a lot of time there. It’s a long story, but one going on for centuries.
I sometimes wonder whether the Sunnis and Shias are Irish, or vice versa. The Irish kill each other over how to practice Christianity, and the Sunni and Shia do the same over how to practice Islam.
Religions sure make for a peaceful world...yeah...sure.
I'm glad that murderous maniac got turned into vapor.
Seems that not all Americans are happy about killing that terrorists pos.
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"Dear #Iran, The USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us. #Soleimani," McGowan tweeted along with a gif of a waving Iranian flag.
There is a reason he was there. To stir up trouble using the country of Iraq to do it. A proxy war between Iran and the US.
There is quite a bit of differences between Iraq and Iran. Iranian is Persian. Iraq is Arabic.
Iran is Shia Muslim. Iran is Sunni Muslim. While both Muslim, that is akin to say Christianity in Catholicism is the same as say Protestant.
Iraq and Iran were once mortal enemies and fought a war back in the 1980's. A very bloody war wherein a million or more died. So historically Iraq and Iran really don't get along. So to think he was there just to say hi, on a vacation, or sell Girl Scout cookies is not the case. He was there to start trouble. Our embassy in Iraq was just sacked less than a week ago. Iraq or any host nation that has embassies is supposed to guard all embassies. Well Iraq couldn't as they are a ruined country after years of war.
And we saw what happened to our embassy in Benghazi when the host nation AND the United States administration doesn't do anything and just let's stuff happen.
So he was there to cause trouble using a weakened country to perpetuate a proxy war. In a country that historically hates him and his country.
The US is the most powerful country in the world. By far. But little pip squeak countries seem to stir up issues the with the US. Kinda like say the town big guy putting up with cheap shots by someone with little man syndrome. And historically the US has been tolerant of the little man cheap shots. Even bought the little man food and drinks to trying to placate them. That's what Obama did with Iran.
Well Trump had enough. Saw that paying off the little man didn't work. And the little man kept of trying to pick a fight.
Well Trump just kicked his arse.
Is the proxy war over? Maybe not. Will it start an all out war? Probably not. Will it make things all better and calm things down in the Middle East? Maybe not. But at least the gloves side came off, and the US is now saying "anybody else want any of this?" instead of just taking crap from the little man. The world is watching, and they saw this admininistraion has its gloves off is is willing to use force if needed.
Do you think North Korea and any other hostile country of the US took notice of what happened? You bet your sweet arse. They know this guy is not a push over. Who knows, maybe this recent action will make some other little man somewhere else behave and stay in their seat. Who knows, in a larger sense, maybe the world is now a safer place for doing what Trump did.
jaguartx: Maybe the radical murderous muslims will begin to realize "what comes around - can, go around"! I am personally thankful and gleeful this scum sucking, murderous piece of slime is dead - and died a horrible, painful, public death! Great job President Donald J. Trump. GO TRUMP MAGA Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
jaguartx: Maybe the radical murderous muslims will begin to realize "what comes around - can, go around"!
Unfortunately, the Muslim culture doesn't believe in or grasp that concept. Neither do they believe in "honor of a friend" like we Americans do. For example, let's say you and Pete are down at the hunting club on a 20-below day and he fishes you out of an icy creek, saving your life when you would have obviously perished. He's your friend for life then, and you will lie to the Police, telling them you haven't seen him, when they come looking for him for some menial crime. You "cover his ass" out of honor. That kind of concept is not part of the raghead's culture. If you fish one of those stinkers out of the creek he doesn't believe in owning you any allegiance at all.
Where does it say only Iran can create havoc and terror threats. Welcome to the big game Mr. Ayatollah hope you hear more from Special Ops, Navy Seals and CIA. They have some new toys you’ve never experienced. Love all the liberal ass wipes that have no idea what captured Americans felt like in the late seventies. Took a Republican President to shake their ass with fear back then. The Ayatollah loves Dem Administrations, such pussies they are.
The Irish kill each other over how to practice Christianity.
Oh, back in the 17th Century maybe.
The Ulster Prods were settlers, brung over as English-loyal colonists to displace and subdue the Native (Catholic) Irish. Tribal warfare ensued, the English with their Ulster Prod manpower won.
Later on the very decency of English law the Brits spread around their Empire ultimately defeated and disintegrated that empire. The Colonies voted themselves out, beginning with the Irish.
The Irish Republic included all but Protestant Majority Ulster, vehemently against joining the Republic where they would be a despised minority living under a virtual Catholic Theocracy.
Contrary to popular belief, England would LOVE to get out of Ireland, but the Ulster Prods refused to vote themselves out. Meanwhile the violent fringes on both sides, IRA and UDF, were also criminal organizations in the urban ghettos of both sides. I wouldn’t call either remotely “religious”, Catholic or Protestant. Basically violent criminal scum on both sides.
In my lifetime the Catholics in Ulster have our-bred the Prods and the Prods will soon be a minority even in Ulster. So the Ulster Protestants are in a real bind. I feel for ‘em, these are the people who gave us much of our American character.
Ironically, in recent years the Ulster Prods and the Catholic Church are on the same Pro-Life side of the abortion debate, and neither the Prods nor the rest of Ireland want out of the EU.
If there is any evidence of retaliation by Iran or its surrogates, that is exactly what I hope happens. Preferably one of those bunker busting type bombs...........
Meanwhile the violent fringes on both sides, IRA and UDF, were also criminal organizations in the urban ghettos of both sides. I wouldn’t call either remotely “religious”, Catholic or Protestant. Basically violent criminal scum on both sides.
What makes you think one cannot be violent criminal scum and devout religious at the same time?
Bible portrays just such devoted to God murderous cruel characters.
There were cooky Irish catholics that think the Pope can do no wrong and that Mary was a blessed virgin, all while supporting the IRA.
The Irish kill each other over how to practice Christianity.
Oh, back in the 17th Century maybe.
The Ulster Prods were settlers, brung over as English-loyal colonists to displace and subdue the Native (Catholic) Irish. Tribal warfare ensued, the English with their Ulster Prod manpower won.
Later on the very decency of English law the Brits spread around their Empire ultimately defeated and disintegrated that empire. The Colonies voted themselves out, beginning with the Irish.
The Irish Republic included all but Protestant Majority Ulster, vehemently against joining the Republic where they would be a despised minority living under a virtual Catholic Theocracy.
Contrary to popular belief, England would LOVE to get out of Ireland, but the Ulster Prods refused to vote themselves out. Meanwhile the violent fringes on both sides, IRA and UDF, were also criminal organizations in the urban ghettos of both sides. I wouldn’t call either remotely “religious”, Catholic or Protestant. Basically violent criminal scum on both sides.
In my lifetime the Catholics in Ulster have our-bred the Prods and the Prods will soon be a minority even in Ulster. So the Ulster Protestants are in a real bind. I feel for ‘em, these are the people who gave us much of our American character.
Ironically, in recent years the Ulster Prods and the Catholic Church are on the same Pro-Life side of the abortion debate, and neither the Prods nor the rest of Ireland want out of the EU.
Prob’ly you knew all this.
I do, but it's still fun to fuggg with the Irish. My ancestors were run out of Scotland, went to N Ireland, were too "rowdy" for even there, and got on a boat to America and settled in Illinois. The family used to sing this when I was a kid.
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
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Do you understand the relationship between Iraq and Iran?
I understand the difference between friend and foe, do you?
You're not one of those people still looking for friends in the mid-east are you?
We took the pressure off Iran by toppling the Sunni governments in countries on either side of it.
Provoke the ragheads in response to their provocation, let them do their stupid stuff and respond hugely.....is one way to play the game.
I find it very odd that this sorry POS was in Iraq in the first place and didn't even have an invitation. Not unlike the U.S. Sec Def showing up in Tehran w/o invitation, no?
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Do you understand the relationship between Iraq and Iran?
I understand the difference between friend and foe, do you?
You're not one of those people still looking for friends in the mid-east are you?
We took the pressure off Iran by toppling the Sunni governments in countries on either side of it.
And by backing off in Syria.
how much time have actually spent in the Mid East ?
There is a reason he was there. To stir up trouble using the country of Iraq to do it. A proxy war between Iran and the US.
There is quite a bit of differences between Iraq and Iran. Iranian is Persian. Iraq is Arabic.
Iran is Shia Muslim. Iran is Sunni Muslim. While both Muslim, that is akin to say Christianity in Catholicism is the same as say Protestant.
Iraq and Iran were once mortal enemies and fought a war back in the 1980's. A very bloody war wherein a million or more died. So historically Iraq and Iran really don't get along. So to think he was there just to say hi, on a vacation, or sell Girl Scout cookies is not the case. He was there to start trouble. Our embassy in Iraq was just sacked less than a week ago. Iraq or any host nation that has embassies is supposed to guard all embassies. Well Iraq couldn't as they are a ruined country after years of war.
And we saw what happened to our embassy in Benghazi when the host nation AND the United States administration doesn't do anything and just let's stuff happen.
So he was there to cause trouble using a weakened country to perpetuate a proxy war. In a country that historically hates him and his country.
The US is the most powerful country in the world. By far. But little pip squeak countries seem to stir up issues the with the US. Kinda like say the town big guy putting up with cheap shots by someone with little man syndrome. And historically the US has been tolerant of the little man cheap shots. Even bought the little man food and drinks to trying to placate them. That's what Obama did with Iran.
Well Trump had enough. Saw that paying off the little man didn't work. And the little man kept of trying to pick a fight.
Well Trump just kicked his arse.
Is the proxy war over? Maybe not. Will it start an all out war? Probably not. Will it make things all better and calm things down in the Middle East? Maybe not. But at least the gloves side came off, and the US is now saying "anybody else want any of this?" instead of just taking crap from the little man. The world is watching, and they saw this admininistraion has its gloves off is is willing to use force if needed.
Do you think North Korea and any other hostile country of the US took notice of what happened? You bet your sweet arse. They know this guy is not a push over. Who knows, maybe this recent action will make some other little man somewhere else behave and stay in their seat. Who knows, in a larger sense, maybe the world is now a safer place for doing what Trump did.
I agree with your first sentence.
Iraq is a majority shiite country (put together by the Brits in WW1, and with a Sunni king installed) Iraq was second prize, first prize went to the House of Saud, over in Arabia. 3rd prize went to Jordan.
Sunni king has a Sunni army, so when the Army toppled the King in Iraq, Saddam came out on top, still a Sunni.
I agree Solamani was there to stir up trouble, that's pretty much his Position Description.
I don't doubt the US Embassy was top on his list. I'm glad he's dead. And I'm glad Americans killed him. I wish they'd kill every MFer that had a hand in the Beirut bombing too.
Was this a strategic victory or just another tactical blunder? America's Middle East Policy is so focused it's hard to tell. More red meat for the Circus at least. Ra! Ra! A trillion dollar bargain too. Winning...
Upset that Trump took out a terrorist responsible for the deaths of over 600 American soldiers.
Upset that Trump pardoned soldiers who killed terrorists but were sentenced to prison by Obama's regime.
a true American hero
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Sycamore
Good. Stand by for more attacks on US Embassy in Iraq, and our forces there though.
How many hundreds of attacks killing Americans has he been responsible for. How many more would you or Zero let him kill?
Proof, pacifism doesn't get the job done. How many others will this make think twice?
this will up the ante, but it stops him. he must have been pretty savvy to stay in power so long.
I repeat, stand by for more attacks on our folks. If you don't think so, you are a fool.
Yep, Sickermore, he WAS a pretty savvy fellow. Trump STILL is, so I guess your savvy fellow wasnt as savvy as a real president.
It's pretty evident your hero the Zero wasnt savvy enough to take him out, or maybe he was too gutless, or maybe they were buds.
To prove how lowlife and two faced and disingenuous you and your ilk are, see if you're able to remember the unfettered glee you all and your chickenschiett MSM were when Hillary forced the muzzy turd to take Bin Laden out, or so the story goes.
Many credible sources say he died of his diabetes months before. Your chickenschiett president sure didnt want the muzzy bastids pissed off for not pulling that burial at Sea schiett asap, and the co ksucker didnt let the Americans get a fresh picture of the dead SOB with a convincing personality present with him, did he?
What did the post mortem show? Oh, because of your hero we will never know. Wheres the rags the rag head wore? DNA analysis is admissible in a court of law you know. That too, was a place your corksucker bro didnt want us to go. NOW, post us a story of a great US battle where our servicemen do more than provide lip service, like you, to the US.
jaguar do you really think it was bad to take out bin laden?
do you think those SEALs are lying about doing it?
are you that far off your meds?
Are you off yours, worrying about the downside of Trump having S killed. You're the one dissing his action, not me.
Are you too stupid to wonder why your bud didn't let Americans enjoy the death of OBL after he killed over 3000 of us? Yeah, like you, he was probably afraid of retaliation also and kissed muzzy ass getting him sunk.
Let's see if Trump has him buried at Sea tomorrow with full muzzy honors.
I guess I ain’t understanding all the hatred Sycamore is drawing here for merely stating he’s glad the Suleiman guy is dead and that retaliation is likely.
I have tried to stay out of these attacks on sycamore, by keyboard warriors, but it's obvious they don't know any thing about him at all, his actual politics, lifestyle, anything.
I am not going to get into any of that other than to say i have known him for a long time now, there are a lot of common grounds in his life history to mine, and these character attacks are not representative of him at all. I am not exactly a card carrying member of the progressive party, being somewhere to the right of attila the hun,my DNA also indicates that. I hate to draw attention to myself but he is a friend. And these attacks continually misrepresent the actual man.
Those Iranian uniforms remind me of the Nazi SS black uniforms. Very sinister and evil looking . . . send 'em all to hell!
i ran into some federal law dogs sent to protect government buidings down by naco a few years ago, i guess they were afraid of all the grey haired gramma's t here. the black uniforms and black jump boots reminded one of a S.S. detail.
I absolutely love all the creative descriptions, “waffle housed him", "scattered and splattered" You guys could teach the NYT headline writers a lesson. Your headlines are more accurate.
There is still a population of Iranians living in the USA. They need to be removed.
Why?
Most Iranians I have met want nothing to do with the Iranian regime.
people on this forum tend to paint with a wide paintbrush. Not everyone in iran is a relgious muslim fanatic. some years ago i was working on a rather large insurance situaiton, the representative from a well known insurance company was flying in from los angeles to help me with it, his father had been the head of SAVAK, under the shah. You don't think there wasn't a price on his families head by the mullah's? real nice guy too.
My offer still stands with the kookistas/jew haters, there isn't going to be ANY war.
probably an accurate observation subject to how you define war, which can be done on multiple levels. We don't know what prompted the hit on them, and we don't know what they were planning, some in the government seemed to know but not talking. And i would think a topic of discussion was what would Iran's response be? Iran has the ability to cause a lot of low scale trouble in the region, and by extension in other countries, i think it would be a mistake to think they would take that lightly without some type of retribution. The question is where, and how much without triggering air strikes that wipe out their economy. Trump is playing chess. and he Has signaled he will use force when he deems it necessary. something prior presidents seemed to have trouble with. I would think that is causing some hiccups in iran, as to what their strategy should be.
The gist seems to be Suleimi WAS Iran, at least with regards to their foreign policy. I expect he killed more Persians and Arabs than he ever did Americans. Screwing with oil tankers? Suleimi. Strikes on Saudi oil refineries? Suleimi. Attack on the American Embassy?
Ditto, except that’s where he screwed up, an Embassy is sovereign territory of the country of origin and he committed an act of war against us, allowing us to retaliate without infringing on Iranian territory.
I have often heard Iranians are different from their government, at least Iranian dissidents can prob’ly breath easier now.
The gist seems to be Suleimi WAS Iran, at least with regards to their foreign policy. I expect he killed more Persians and Arabs than he ever did Americans. Screwing with oil tankers? Suleimi. Strikes on Saudi oil refineries? Suleimi. Attack on the American Embassy?
Ditto, except that’s where he screwed up, an Embassy is sovereign territory of the country of origin and he committed an act of war against us, allowing us to retaliate without infringing on Iranian territory.
I have often heard Iranians are different from their government, at least Iranian dissidents can prob’ly breath easier now.
I repeat, stand by for more attacks on our folks. If you don't think so, you are a fool.
You mean like when we wiped out 1/3 of Iran's Navy during Preying Mantis?... those guys went quiet for over ten years...
1/3 of the Navy, how many ships was that?
1988 was the end of the disastrous (for both sides) Iran-Iraq war. Do you think that might have helped "keep them quiet"?
Also remember they had a crazy Sunni governed Afghanistan right on their 6, and the Russians were pulling out they had a lot to cover locally.
It was HALF. Here you go. And did I mention it was FUN? From the link: This battle was the largest of the five major U.S. surface engagements since the Second World War, which also include the Battle of Chumonchin Chan during the Korean War, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Battle of Dong Hoi during the Vietnam War, and the Action in the Gulf of Sidra in 1986. It also marked the U.S. Navy's first exchange of anti-ship missiles with opposing ships and the only occasion since World War II on which the US Navy sank a major surface combatant.
By the end of the operation, U.S. air and surface units had sunk, or severely damaged, half of Iran's operational fleet.
I repeat, stand by for more attacks on our folks. If you don't think so, you are a fool.
You mean like when we wiped out 1/3 of Iran's Navy during Preying Mantis?... those guys went quiet for over ten years...
1/3 of the Navy, how many ships was that?
1988 was the end of the disastrous (for both sides) Iran-Iraq war. Do you think that might have helped "keep them quiet"?
Also remember they had a crazy Sunni governed Afghanistan right on their 6, and the Russians were pulling out they had a lot to cover locally.
It was HALF. Here you go. And did I mention it was FUN? From the link: This battle was the largest of the five major U.S. surface engagements since the Second World War, which also include the Battle of Chumonchin Chan during the Korean War, the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Battle of Dong Hoi during the Vietnam War, and the Action in the Gulf of Sidra in 1986. It also marked the U.S. Navy's first exchange of anti-ship missiles with opposing ships and the only occasion since World War II on which the US Navy sank a major surface combatant.
By the end of the operation, U.S. air and surface units had sunk, or severely damaged, half of Iran's operational fleet.
I had The Joy of riding around the Persian Gulf while in the Army on a bunch of Ayatollah Class Frigates...They had been ordered before the dust up over there I guess so our Navy put them to work. Buncha little helicopters with green eyed pilots flying around sinking Iranian gun boats My pleasure turning wrenches on them.
I have tried to stay out of these attacks on sycamore, by keyboard warriors, but it's obvious they don't know any thing about him at all, his actual politics, lifestyle, anything.
I am not going to get into any of that other than to say i have known him for a long time now, there are a lot of common grounds in his life history to mine, and these character attacks are not representative of him at all. I am not exactly a card carrying member of the progressive party, being somewhere to the right of attila the hun,my DNA also indicates that. I hate to draw attention to myself but he is a friend. And these attacks continually misrepresent the actual man.
All I know about him is that he is forever giving underhanded behind the back stabs and jabs at Trump, question his IQ or patriotic actions and always pushing the downside. That's enough for me.
Unlike many I can get a clue after a while.
Seems pretty evident Jorge is pretty savvy and well sighted in on his BS stealth agenda too.
it wouldn't have sounded as cool if you would have said "we sunk 1/3 of their tiny Navy" would it?
Here, you'll need some KY: "By the end of the operation, U.S. air and surface units had sunk, or severely damaged, half of Iran's operational fleet."
I realize you got better information from wikipedia , but your original post stated 1/3.
That was from another source. Really immaterial, given the size of their navy . Bottom line my posit was accurate, after that beat down, they went silent for close to ten years...
Why didnt Sickermore raise questions of alarm over his hero the Zero taking OBL out.
Or of Hillary taking Lybias leader out and having it become part of the muzzy caliphate?
Or raise any concerns over Zero and Hillarys handling of Benghazi?
Or have concerns over Zeros Iranian nuc treaty. Hes a big supporter of the military isn't he? Unless 200 generals come out against the scam or a turd like Solemani kills a few hundred service men.
He never raised concerns about Uranuim Ones sale to Russia and in fact, indicated on occasion it was BS and asked for proof.
Well, I could just as well say Bill or Hillary never cost me any skin and give them a likewise pass. Bill never assaulted my wife or nailed any of my neices. Hey, what's wrong with supporting him?