I went to Dollar General 3 weeks and got 17 cans Dinty-Moore beef stew, 4 battalion sized trays of those vanilla creme cookies and 3 12-packs of Natty Light.
1 still in high school 1 in college that commutes from home Wife works in public health: she’s already part of the rapid situational deployment response. 2nd in command at our county level.
She’ll bring that shît home to all of us if the kids dont first.
I could go live with my mother in law on the other part of the farm but I might get crushed by a hoard of 20,000 boxed up Barbie dolls.
1 still in high school 1 in college that commutes from home Wife works in public health: she’s already part of the rapid situational deployment response. 2nd in command at our county level.
She’ll bring that shît home to all of us if the kids dont first.
I could go live with my mother in law on the other part of the farm but I might get crushed by a hoard of 20,000 boxed up Barbie dolls.
Damn! Wife works in public school. Son goes there. Daughter is at K State which is home to a lot of foreigners and lots of "research" facilities. About ten miles away is Fort Riley...Ground Zero for the Spanish Flu.
So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?
Buy masks? Stockpile food? Fuel? Stock up on medicine? What medicines?
Live life normally.
My co-workers in China haven't been allowed to come into work for over a month now. I think I'll keep my Google-Fiber internet even though they raised the price.
But we ran scared a few times with other bugs so to speak. I"ve basically been front line health care for a number of years. Never got anything serious.
Unless you are immune compromised I'd not worry at all.
As to supplies, anyone that doesn't have a few months if not 6 months or more of supplies on hand period they are not living very smart.
Fuel is an issue, and if you want to stockpile it then non ethanol only, high octane, seafoam, and octane booster on hand IMHO. Only issues we'll have are power outages which kill the frozen/fresh food storage, but those days we would be working hard to salt and dry everything we could at that point.
Masks are never a bad thing in you live in the city. But then again we keep masks on hand here all the time even rural country for various reasons just like surgical gloves.
Just step back a bit and think about so many more things that a current virus. Civil unrest, tornado, hurricane, power outages, democrats being in charge and so on. To not have the minimums isn't smart.
If the stuff gets bad here too, you simply don't move about more than you have to. And wash your hands anyway and hand sanitizer. I don't hand sanitize so much in the summer, but winter yes, and taking mom to dr appts etc.... all the time. Running EMS calls all the time...
I think I read the masks are not as effective against this as other virus because it can be absorbed thru the eyes? I guess that's why you see people walking around in lifesize condoms in China.
but I think the masks have to be many times more effective than *not* wearing a mask. If you are buying one, look for the blue on one side/white on the other. The white/white paper masks are not intended to stop virus spread.
*note* - all this comes from what I read online so fwiw......
btw, I have a box of 50 surgical masks I will trade for a Savage 99 in .308 (joke)
I've read at least a half dozen articles about corona that say masks don't help. OTOH, they don't hurt so why not wear one if you're at risk? There's so much bad info about it that you should try anything that MIGHT help.
I am surprised we haven't seen more outbreaks in our colleges, so may schools had chinese students returning to american schools from winter break. Certainly the colleges would not have returning students checked as that would be racist.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
There are actually a handful of precautions, if taken, that will nearly guarantee that you never catch a cold. The easiest, and perhaps most effective, precaution is simply not to touch your face with your hands unless you literally just washed or sanitized them.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
There are actually a handful of precautions, if taken, that will nearly guarantee that you never catch a cold. The easiest, and perhaps most effective, precaution is simply not to touch your face with your hands unless you literally just washed or sanitized them.
We have been stockpiling canned goods, MREs, and have been dehydrating fruits and vegetables, off and on, since last summer. A good supply of OTC remedies, vitamins, first aid items, germocidal bleach, toilet paper, etc.
The wife thought I was a bit nuts; not so much now.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!
Horse shixt.
Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’? She was licking all the silverware and chit.
Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’? She was licking all the silverware and chit.
Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?
Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?
Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.
I remember good one but not as good as Awesom-0
That was good, too. Cartman as a robot becomes a slave.
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
How do you know this? Source?
The size of what the masks will filter is much larger than the size of a virus. Aside from that though is the fact that the mask does not produce a positive seal like a gas mask so they will leak around the masks and through the gaps in the seal. Airborne virus rides on moisture droplets and WILL contact your eyes just like pollen and it will infect you as it passes down the nasal lacrimal duct.
Unless an effective vaccine is found and you get vaccinated, the chances that you get covid 29 will approach 100% probably within 5 years. Quarantine is at this point in time no longer a viable option. The virus is as yet undetected in the general population of the United States. But, it is on at least three continents that we are certain of and in over 30 nations. That, by definition, is out of control and in all but declaration by WHO a global pandemic. That declaration will come this week. By the end of the week thu number of countris without infections will be less than the number with and screening/quarantine will be all but done. This when all we can say about it's mortality rate is that it is probably somewhere between 1 and 3 per cent.
This virus is already well on it's way to killing more people than Ebola has in the almost 50 years we have known of it. By the end of 202 Covid 19 will have killed more people globally than Ebola in West Africa did. At least absent a vaccine that will be the scorecard.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!
Horse shixt.
Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
In many countries, predominantly socialist and 3d world countries, the system is already overwhelmed. There are already long waiting lines for care.
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
How do you know this? Source?
The size of what the masks will filter is much larger than the size of a virus. Aside from that though is the fact that the mask does not produce a positive seal like a gas mask so they will leak around the masks and through the gaps in the seal. Airborne virus rides on moisture droplets and WILL contact your eyes just like pollen and it will infect you as it passes down the nasal lacrimal duct.
Unless an effective vaccine is found and you get vaccinated, the chances that you get covid 29 will approach 100% probably within 5 years. Quarantine is at this point in time no longer a viable option. The virus is as yet undetected in the general population of the United States. But, it is on at least three continents that we are certain of and in over 30 nations. That, by definition, is out of control and in all but declaration by WHO a global pandemic. That declaration will come this week. By the end of the week thu number of countris without infections will be less than the number with and screening/quarantine will be all but done. This when all we can say about it's mortality rate is that it is probably somewhere between 1 and 3 per cent.
This virus is already well on it's way to killing more people than Ebola has in the almost 50 years we have known of it. By the end of 202 Covid 19 will have killed more people globally than Ebola in West Africa did. At least absent a vaccine that will be the scorecard.
I don't agree. once warmer temps start to happen, the cold and flu seasons evaporate. People just don't get them during that time of the year. I think I have only caught a cold in the summer like twice over a 25 year span. I see that happening as we get closer to spring. Also its been said the actual illness isn't very severe, its the potential for pnumonia after the fact that is the problem. This to me says where healthcare sucks in an area or country your risk of dying will go up. out of 600 people that have tested to have the virus off that cruise ship only 2 elderly people died. I will say its alarming that 600 our of 3700 ended up catching the virus though.
Considering the amount of international travel between China and the US and that the local epidemic in Wuhan had been going on for at least a month before we heard about it or there were any travel precautions, it would be a miracle if it isn’t already out in the wild in this country.
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!
Horse shixt.
Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
The last time I looked at a map, there were 15 cases confirmed in the US...supposedly. Today I looked and the number had jumped to 53! However, a closer reading shows that 12 of those cases were travel-related. Two of them were person-to-person contact here in the US. The remainder of cases were from the cruise ship that was allowed to dock here and are quarantined. So this shows 14 cases from the original parameters. I have no idea where the other case went from my original numbers. Thus far, several people have recovered and there are no deaths.
Lots of speculation on it. No telling how it will be for Americans if it does go widespread. Thus far, it looks pretty contained. If it acts like a cold or the flu, warm weather is coming on and maybe the season for it will be over in most US locales by May. We're about to two months to go. Hopefully the economy won't be crashed by the globalists and their virus, exacerbating things.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
A pretense of somebody with a clue but who really doesn't have one.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
A pretense of somebody with a clue but who really doesn't have one.
More so than you are just about every thing ever. But go ahead, shout at clouds some more.
If you are over 60, get the pneumonia vaccine and start taking beta-glucan (a proven immune system enhancer). I don't think it hurts to exercise yourself into as good a shape as you can (cardio-vascular). P.S. I'm not a doctor and I've never stayed in a Holiday Inn Express so my advise is prolly worthless.
It’s absolutely serious. At current rates if they hold up, its estimated that about 60 percent of the worlds population will get it and if the 2% fatality rate holds up, that’s a lot of dead people.
Is it the end of the world? No, but it isn’t good.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.
Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.
You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.
the only requirements to be tested or for those traveling to/from infected areas. the test kits were faulty. only three testing centers in the united states. might have something to do with underreporting in this country.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.
Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.
You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.
First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.
I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.
Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.
You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.
First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.
I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
My problem is with ignorant bs. Read in between the lines for the rest.
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.
Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.
Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.
You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.
First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.
I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
My problem is with ignorant bs. Read in between the lines for the rest.
Oh, that’s right, you’re an [bleep]. Sorry, I forgot.
one thing brought out in the spectator article is the E.U. and open borders, combined with lots of chinese visiting europe. they must be feeling real good in europe right about n ow. eventually as this continues there is a good chance of supply side interuptions for various corporations. china is a important part of world gnp, and that interuption (s) will effect corporations world wide.
one thing brought out in the spectator article is the E.U. and open borders, combined with lots of chinese visiting europe. they must be feeling real good in europe right about n ow.
That one English dude infected like 14 people a month or so ago and didn’t even know he had it.
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.
TRH, you may need N-100 masks to keep this virus out, though I havent heard what size the virus particles are.
So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?
After reading some news this morning my wife asked if we have enough portaledges for all of us. Just checked a bit ago and we are good, though I don’t think my youngest son has ever slept on one.
We have been stockpiling canned goods, MREs, and have been dehydrating fruits and vegetables, off and on, since last summer. A good supply of OTC remedies, vitamins, first aid items, germocidal bleach, toilet paper, etc.
The wife thought I was a bit nuts; not so much now.
Is that for living close to Chicago, or for the Coronavirus?
I really hope that some of the reports I e seen that Asians appear to be especially up stable to it are true. Not that I have anything against them, just that it wo t be as bad for everyone else as it is in China.
Not direct about today's plague, but my folks were from old school Europe, and they had sayings about the black plague. Funny that event was locked into the language. Generally they used it as a cuss word for some thing very terrible. I always thought that was a bit historic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
I think I read the masks are not as effective against this as other virus because it can be absorbed thru the eyes? I guess that's why you see people walking around in life sized condoms in China.
but I think the masks have to be many times more effective than *not* wearing a mask. If you are buying one, look for the blue on one side/white on the other. The white/white paper masks are not intended to stop virus spread.
*note* - all this comes from what I read online so fwiw......
btw, I have a box of 50 surgical masks I will trade for a Savage 99 in .308 (joke)
I read that, too.
I'm not sure of the "dose" of virus necessary to cause an infection. Evidently it's not that much.
The reproductive rate, Ro, is higher than SARS, lower than measles which is one of the most contagious viruses, Ro 18.
The Ro of COVID-19 is not a definite value, being refined as the disease progresses, currently floating between 2.0 and 3.1.
As I posted earlier, the fact that this one can be contagious for a period of time before symptom appear makes it especially hard (next to impossible) to contain.
And, the fact that it's NOT as deadly as Ebola and others, makes it easier to spread undetected.
We see the death rate in 3rd world countries, not sure what it would be with state of the art medicine. Hope we never find out.
Unfortunately, this one does't fit an existing model; we're learning as it evolves, making it hard to project an ultimate outcome
There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
What happens when the bank forecloses and kicks you out of your bunker because you’ve stayed home from work for six months?
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.
TRH, you may need N-100 masks to keep this virus out, though I havent heard what size the virus particles are.
Size of the virus is irrelevant. The virus doesn't float through the air by itself. It catches a ride on water droplets. Any surgical mask will catch a water droplet, and keep it from being breathed into the lungs. The only perfect solution is a hazmat suit.
Look at the upside, those people that been storing food to last for years will actually be able to use some of it to survive. True Christians are well prepared, in worst possible scenario they get to meet Jesus a little sooner.
another agree. don't fall to pieces guys. a poster says we are all going to get it. then says 60% of us are going to get it. what if 2 % get it and 100,000 people die from it in the US. that would be bad, but we lose people to illness every day. If Iceland got it and lost 100,000 people that would be 1/3 of their population.
There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
What happens when the bank forecloses and kicks you out of your bunker because you’ve stayed home from work for six months?
My bunker is paid for. Its the heat and electricity Im worried about.
Don't worry, Trump is going to win another term. His administration is trying very hard to eradicate Affordable Care Act including popular coverage for pre-existing conditions.
There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
Leroy:
The influenza epidemic of 1917 lasted for five years. We have a vastly better transportation system today than we did then. But still I bet it's gonna last long enough that you're not going to be able to wait it out in a bunker.
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.
Haha! You would know I guess.....
It is so gross here. Everyone's trash gets pilled on the street corners, bathrooms are never clean and soap is sparse. The streets are full of goop, trash and general nastiness. I have but 26 days left here, not that I am counting.
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.
Haha! You would know I guess.....
It is so gross here. Everyone's trash gets pilled on the street corners, bathrooms are never clean and soap is sparse. The streets are full of goop, trash and general nastiness. I have but 26 days left here, not that I am counting.
I remember an old movie about WWII and somebody said, "dirty Japs" and I believe it was Frank Sinatra, the anti-war hero of the movie who was 4F in real life, waxing eloquent on how clean the Japanese were, taking baths all the time and such. I realize Korea ain't Japan, but you were talking about the majority of the Orient, I suppose. I figured Korea was pretty clean.
Every place I've been in Asia, with the exception of Japan and Singapore, have had challenging sanitation issues. Korea is better than it used to be, but it's still grimy. That said Seoul (couple years ago) is better than Portland or Seattle given their recent decline and the rise of homeless tolerance.
There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
Leroy:
The influenza epidemic of 1917 lasted for five years. We have a vastly better transportation system today than we did then. But still I bet it's gonna last long enough that you're not going to be able to wait it out in a bunker.
Never said I was going to hunker in a bunker. Just tryin' to help someone else.
The transportation system, etc. should get this all over much faster and more violently than the 1917 epidemic.
Everybody's gonna roll the dice. Like it or not, but maybe the bunker hunker will come out on top. Never know.
What are you going to do run around like your hairs on fire? My buddy cant stop watching and reading everything about it and giving me unneeded updates. Keeps telling me I'm not gonna be so tough when millions are dying. I'm already on overtime having cancer 5 years ago. Not much you can do at all with kids in school and a wife in health care. Wife said just today the main office asked how many masks they have on hand and it was way too low for pandemic [bleep].
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up
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A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.
Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.
Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.
The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.
Initial results could be released by July or August.
It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.
But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up
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A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.
Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.
Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.
The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.
Initial results could be released by July or August.
It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.
But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.
The Swine Flu vaccine killed many more people than did the Swine Flu.
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up
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A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.
Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.
Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.
The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.
Initial results could be released by July or August.
It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.
But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.
Do you want zombies? Because this is how you get zombies.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
Whether on purpose or accident, I was thinking the same thing.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
9 day virus survival on dry surface?
Is that a fact?
Hmmm...
DF
That's the latest report from a few days ago, Doc.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
9 day virus survival on dry surface?
Is that a fact?
Hmmm...
DF
That's the latest report from a few days ago, Doc.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
9 day virus survival on dry surface?
Is that a fact?
Hmmm...
DF
That figure comes from studies that have been able, using lab techniques, to identify genetic material from the virus on those surfaces after that period of time. This doesn't actually mean you can contract the virus from contact with those dry surfaces after, or even prior to, that period. The essential exterior surface of the virus is necessary for transmission, and it's quite vulnerable to damage upon exposure to dry surfaces.
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
I doubt anything coming from China gets here in 9 days but what do I know
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
I doubt anything coming from China gets here in 9 days but what do I know
I'd think the vast majority of their stuff comes thru seaports in containers.
You'd have to fly products in to beat the time period, and that's too expensive in most cases.
So, I dont think we have blocked airports to flights from S Korea, Italy or Germany where a top govt official has just called their Corona problem an Epidemic.
I expect if this becomes a real problem in many countries there will be some in high positions who will not want the US, Canada and Mexico to escape unscathed.
How much of our food comes from south of the border.
Checked yesterday and all our hospital masks come from China. The hospital should be overrun with it. Yet we are not. They want to kill us, then flood the market with contaminated masks, yet they haven’t.
It will be old history in a couple months, Trump will seal the seal on a trade agreement and the market will be back.
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.
Make her let it sit on the porch a week.
She done forgot she ordered some of the stuff. They were in customs that long! She’s been better lately. She gets on ordering kicks. Recently ordering all kinds of damn cookies. 🤪🤪🤪. They ain’t from China. No fortune cookies! 🤣
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.
Make her let it sit on the porch a week.
She done forgot she ordered some of the stuff. They were in customs that long! She’s been better lately. She gets on ordering kicks. Recently ordering all kinds of damn cookies. 🤪🤪🤪. They ain’t from China. No fortune cookies! 🤣
Well, it's pretty common fo them to get to ordering things. Most commonly they order husbands.
Lotsa people drinking the Commie and MSM Koolaid...
Evidently it's being served in copious doses here at the Fire as well.
I hope and pray you're right, Barry. OTOH, seeing commies drag folks from their homes and the reporters disappearing, shutting airports and borders and businesses down, nurses saying there are a hundred thousand cases 2 weeks ago, China not allowing US viral experts in, docs dying, health minister in Iran I'll, Germany calling it epidemic, S Korea shutting down,.....
The same people that trust the government and the media about fücking nothing are panicking about a new strain of an old virus because the media and the government are saying it’s going to be a problem. Some of you fellas need to get a grip.
Biden must have a deal with the Chink Commies to put on a show so our economy will crash. It's working.
What a coincidence that the markets are crashing just in time for it to appear that the Trump economy is a lie by the liars in chief, the lieberal lying demoncraps.
No one not old and feeble or with problem repository issues have died from this flu/cold thing.
Angela Merkel would kill off a few hundred of her peasants, too, if it was detrimental to Trump.
Finally, folks are beginning to get a clue. The deep state is rebelling against Trumps winning.
Make no mistake, the Clinton's and Piglosi and Schiefty and Piglosi and Schumer and Zero and Feinstein with her Chinese office mgr spy are on their team also. Feinstein are multimillionaires from selling us out to China and that's what Huntrr Bidens China deal was all about. Feinstein knew her guy was a spy all the time and Clinton's open computers were a sell out to China. They didn't have to hack them and are probably why the DNC wouldnt let the FBI check their computers out.
That's why they fought the USMCA trade deal and the MSM was predicting a world wide economic crash last summer if Trump messed with Chinas ripping us off with his trade threats and negotiations and tariffs.
Checked yesterday and all our hospital masks come from China. The hospital should be overrun with it. Yet we are not. They want to kill us, then flood the market with contaminated masks, yet they haven’t.
It will be old history in a couple months, Trump will seal the seal on a trade agreement and the market will be back.
Trump will cure the corona virus by having his holding company get majority stock of Moderna and sending the vaccine for the chinks to field test, you know 1000 or so doses and when they want more it will cost enough to take care of the trade deficit between us and them. Me ,I'd just tell'em to pissup a rope but Don is smarter than I and will make them pay. MB
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ??
The dumbassed low life commies like Jell0 snd la Roy and Gayghost are too stupid to know what's going on and the big wheel ones who are inside members of the DNC know they will get top flight medical care if they did get it.
They arent worried about the nuclear war Hillary was going to start by shooting Putins jets down over Syria and they arent worried about the nuclear war they were building N Korea or Iran to start either. Why? They have their bunkers they can live in for months.
There is more than one Cheyenne Mt bunker in the US. Those who arent members of the cabal need not apply for lodging. All free gratis, compliments of the American taxpayers for them taking care of us.
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ??
The dumbassed low life commies like Jell0 snd la Roy and Gayghost are too stupid to know what's going on and the big wheel ones who are inside members of the DNC know they will get top flight medical care if they did get it.
They arent worried about the nuclear war Hillary was going to start by shooting Putins jets down over Syria and they arent worried about the nuclear war they were building N Korea or Iran to start either. Why? They have their bunkers they can live in for months.
There is more than one Cheyenne Mt bunker in the US. Those who arent members of the cabal need not apply for lodging. All free gratis, compliments of the American taxpayers for them taking care of us.
yeah, if you have a bunker with a couple months of supply, why would you ever care one whit about nuclear war? Such a trivial thing.
Just how stupid can you be?
I know, it's the internet. You can (and will) be infinitely effing stupid.
Hey, you're the one supporting the commies in our govt who push open borders, muzzy immigration and financial destruction with welfare give away programs and free medical care and even for illegals.
Your buds seem pretty intent on destroying this country one way or the other. Surely they wouldnt give the vote to illegals to put your anti 2A buds in power to disarm us, would they?
I should have guessed you'd be too stupid to consider a nuclear event causing an electric grid melt down without high radiation counts.
Damyankee DeBlasio is on TV flapping his gums now, about needing federal help to purchase and distribute sneeze masks to every resident of Noo Yawk City- - - - - -hasn't the dumazz ever heard of duct tape? I'll be glad to use him as a demonstration subject on how to apply it - - - - -5 or 6 layers around the mouth and nose, and he won't have to worry about catching coronavirus or anything else- - - -ever! Jerry
Big ol cluster fugg at the hospital in this one horse town I live in today. Somebody came in sick, they said it was the symptoms of Coronavirus. Locked the hospital down, had all the POPO there, people were frieking out. Dang folks are nuts.
We eat there a lot at lunch, cafeteria has real good food, all the guys that work for me said they're never going back again. Lol