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Posted By: Whiptail Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?
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Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
I went to Dollar General 3 weeks and got 17 cans Dinty-Moore beef stew, 4 battalion sized trays of those vanilla creme cookies and 3 12-packs of Natty Light.

Had to hide it all from my kids.
Stock up on whiskey and beer.
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?
Got all that stuff except fuel. I've about given up on stocking up on fuel due to it going bad so easily now.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Baptism?
too late to get masks............they seem to be sold out everywhere
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
there’s no prep for it, I’m fugged anyway

1 still in high school
1 in college that commutes from home
Wife works in public health: she’s already part of the rapid situational deployment response. 2nd in command at our county level.

She’ll bring that shît home to all of us if the kids dont first.


I could go live with my mother in law on the other part of the farm but I might get crushed by a hoard of 20,000 boxed up Barbie dolls.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

Live life normally.
Originally Posted by slumlord
there’s no prep for it, I’m fugged anyway

1 still in high school
1 in college that commutes from home
Wife works in public health: she’s already part of the rapid situational deployment response. 2nd in command at our county level.

She’ll bring that shît home to all of us if the kids dont first.


I could go live with my mother in law on the other part of the farm but I might get crushed by a hoard of 20,000 boxed up Barbie dolls.
Damn! Wife works in public school. Son goes there. Daughter is at K State which is home to a lot of foreigners and lots of "research" facilities. About ten miles away is Fort Riley...Ground Zero for the Spanish Flu.
Posted By: Whiptail Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

Live life normally.


My co-workers in China haven't been allowed to come into work for over a month now.
I think I'll keep my Google-Fiber internet even though they raised the price.
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
How do you know this? Source?
Posted By: rost495 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Thats China. I might be a bit different there.

But we ran scared a few times with other bugs so to speak. I"ve basically been front line health care for a number of years. Never got anything serious.

Unless you are immune compromised I'd not worry at all.

As to supplies, anyone that doesn't have a few months if not 6 months or more of supplies on hand period they are not living very smart.

Fuel is an issue, and if you want to stockpile it then non ethanol only, high octane, seafoam, and octane booster on hand IMHO. Only issues we'll have are power outages which kill the frozen/fresh food storage, but those days we would be working hard to salt and dry everything we could at that point.

Masks are never a bad thing in you live in the city. But then again we keep masks on hand here all the time even rural country for various reasons just like surgical gloves.

Just step back a bit and think about so many more things that a current virus. Civil unrest, tornado, hurricane, power outages, democrats being in charge and so on. To not have the minimums isn't smart.

If the stuff gets bad here too, you simply don't move about more than you have to. And wash your hands anyway and hand sanitizer. I don't hand sanitize so much in the summer, but winter yes, and taking mom to dr appts etc.... all the time. Running EMS calls all the time...

Its no more than simple common sense.
The mask are all made in china anyway
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

It appears to only be deadly for those of East Asian ancestry.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.

They work in the sense that they keep you from being able to touch your mouth or nose with your contaminated fingers.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Preparation H.
Originally Posted by Timbermaster
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.

They work in the sense that they keep you from being able to touch your mouth or nose with your contaminated fingers.

The virus doesn't travel through the air on its own. It does so on tiny droplets of water, which droplets are indeed stopped by the masks.
Coronavirus Preparations:

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Posted By: KFWA Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
I think I read the masks are not as effective against this as other virus because it can be absorbed thru the eyes? I guess that's why you see people walking around in lifesize condoms in China.

but I think the masks have to be many times more effective than *not* wearing a mask. If you are buying one, look for the blue on one side/white on the other. The white/white paper masks are not intended to stop virus spread.

*note* - all this comes from what I read online so fwiw......

btw, I have a box of 50 surgical masks I will trade for a Savage 99 in .308 (joke)
I've read at least a half dozen articles about corona that say masks don't help. OTOH, they don't hurt so why not wear one if you're at risk? There's so much bad info about it that you should try anything that MIGHT help.
I am surprised we haven't seen more outbreaks in our colleges, so may schools had chinese students returning to american schools from winter break. Certainly the colleges would not have returning students checked as that would be racist.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

There are actually a handful of precautions, if taken, that will nearly guarantee that you never catch a cold. The easiest, and perhaps most effective, precaution is simply not to touch your face with your hands unless you literally just washed or sanitized them.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

There are actually a handful of precautions, if taken, that will nearly guarantee that you never catch a cold. The easiest, and perhaps most effective, precaution is simply not to touch your face with your hands unless you literally just washed or sanitized them.



Maybe so, yet most still get it.
I dunno , but the Asians sure seem to think the masks help
Posted By: WYcoyote Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
The chance of dying is 100%.
We have been stockpiling canned goods, MREs, and have been dehydrating fruits and vegetables, off and on, since last summer. A good supply of OTC remedies, vitamins, first aid items, germocidal bleach, toilet paper, etc.

The wife thought I was a bit nuts; not so much now.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!

Horse shixt.
Posted By: Toddly Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
98% of the people that get it live. I’m going over to the local grade school and lick the playground equipment.
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
The chance of dying is 100%.

LOL. Yep, none of us are getting out of this alive.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!

Horse shixt.


Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?
She was licking all the silverware and chit.


Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?
She was licking all the silverware and chit.


Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.

Yep. I remember it. Funny. That show still on?
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?

Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.

I remember good one but not as good as Awesom-0
Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.

Do you remember on SouthPark when all the parents sent the kids to Kenny’s house to get the chicken pox? And then the boys all sent Freaky Freida out in retribution to give all the parents ‘mouth herpes’?

Ya that was funny, everyone remembers that episode.

I remember good one but not as good as Awesom-0

That was good, too. Cartman as a robot becomes a slave.
Posted By: JPro Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Awesome-O was among the very best.......
Posted By: MILES58 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
How do you know this? Source?



The size of what the masks will filter is much larger than the size of a virus. Aside from that though is the fact that the mask does not produce a positive seal like a gas mask so they will leak around the masks and through the gaps in the seal. Airborne virus rides on moisture droplets and WILL contact your eyes just like pollen and it will infect you as it passes down the nasal lacrimal duct.

Unless an effective vaccine is found and you get vaccinated, the chances that you get covid 29 will approach 100% probably within 5 years. Quarantine is at this point in time no longer a viable option. The virus is as yet undetected in the general population of the United States. But, it is on at least three continents that we are certain of and in over 30 nations. That, by definition, is out of control and in all but declaration by WHO a global pandemic. That declaration will come this week. By the end of the week thu number of countris without infections will be less than the number with and screening/quarantine will be all but done. This when all we can say about it's mortality rate is that it is probably somewhere between 1 and 3 per cent.

This virus is already well on it's way to killing more people than Ebola has in the almost 50 years we have known of it. By the end of 202 Covid 19 will have killed more people globally than Ebola in West Africa did. At least absent a vaccine that will be the scorecard.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
This is America

We have NyQuil, pepto bismol, orange juice, zinc cough drops, immodium, Kleenex with lotion, we’ll make it
Posted By: roundoak Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
too late to get masks............they seem to be sold out everywhere


I can make my own with milk strainers (filters) from the local farm store.

I could dust off my Y2K list.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!

Horse shixt.


Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
In many countries, predominantly socialist and 3d world countries, the system is already overwhelmed. There are already long waiting lines for care.
Make sure the burial insurance is payed up. whistle
Originally Posted by MILES58
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The masks are for feel good only. They don't help a bit with the virus. It goes right through them.
How do you know this? Source?



The size of what the masks will filter is much larger than the size of a virus. Aside from that though is the fact that the mask does not produce a positive seal like a gas mask so they will leak around the masks and through the gaps in the seal. Airborne virus rides on moisture droplets and WILL contact your eyes just like pollen and it will infect you as it passes down the nasal lacrimal duct.

Unless an effective vaccine is found and you get vaccinated, the chances that you get covid 29 will approach 100% probably within 5 years. Quarantine is at this point in time no longer a viable option. The virus is as yet undetected in the general population of the United States. But, it is on at least three continents that we are certain of and in over 30 nations. That, by definition, is out of control and in all but declaration by WHO a global pandemic. That declaration will come this week. By the end of the week thu number of countris without infections will be less than the number with and screening/quarantine will be all but done. This when all we can say about it's mortality rate is that it is probably somewhere between 1 and 3 per cent.

This virus is already well on it's way to killing more people than Ebola has in the almost 50 years we have known of it. By the end of 202 Covid 19 will have killed more people globally than Ebola in West Africa did. At least absent a vaccine that will be the scorecard.


I don't agree. once warmer temps start to happen, the cold and flu seasons evaporate. People just don't get them during that time of the year. I think I have only caught a cold in the summer like twice over a 25 year span. I see that happening as we get closer to spring. Also its been said the actual illness isn't very severe, its the potential for pnumonia after the fact that is the problem. This to me says where healthcare sucks in an area or country your risk of dying will go up. out of 600 people that have tested to have the virus off that cruise ship only 2 elderly people died. I will say its alarming that 600 our of 3700 ended up catching the virus though.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Considering the amount of international travel between China and the US and that the local epidemic in Wuhan had been going on for at least a month before we heard about it or there were any travel precautions, it would be a miracle if it isn’t already out in the wild in this country.
Posted By: sse Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
whiskey for my men, beer for my horses
Posted By: Prwlr Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by rost495

Live life normally.


^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s a corona virus. So is the common cold. From all reports, this is about as contagious as the common cold. Trying to control it is futile. We're all going to get it. You may as well get it as soon as possible so that if it turns bad, you might get the care you need before the medical system gets overwhelmed.
We're all gonna die!!!!

Horse shixt.


Actually, I agree with you. Just get it and get it over with. Odds are, it won’t be much worse than a bad cold or mild flu at its worst for most people. For some, maybe up to fifteen percent though, it’s going to be bad. And if sixty percent of the world’s population gets it, it’s going to overwhelm the system. So if you get it and it does get bad, you want to be in the front end while you can still get decent medical care.
You don't agree with me at all.
The last time I looked at a map, there were 15 cases confirmed in the US...supposedly. Today I looked and the number had jumped to 53! However, a closer reading shows that 12 of those cases were travel-related. Two of them were person-to-person contact here in the US. The remainder of cases were from the cruise ship that was allowed to dock here and are quarantined. So this shows 14 cases from the original parameters. I have no idea where the other case went from my original numbers. Thus far, several people have recovered and there are no deaths.

Lots of speculation on it. No telling how it will be for Americans if it does go widespread. Thus far, it looks pretty contained. If it acts like a cold or the flu, warm weather is coming on and maybe the season for it will be over in most US locales by May. We're about to two months to go. Hopefully the economy won't be crashed by the globalists and their virus, exacerbating things.
We could take bets on who here croaks first......
....OMG, did I just invoke karma or what? shocked
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
A pretense of somebody with a clue but who really doesn't have one.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
A pretense of somebody with a clue but who really doesn't have one.



More so than you are just about every thing ever. But go ahead, shout at clouds some more.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Take two aspirins and call me in the morning. I mean really....
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
i put this on a separate thread. People should really really read it and pay attention, rather than jerking about it.
it's a serious issue

https://spectator.org/covid-19-its-time-to-use-the-word-pandemic/
the gooberment is not telling us everything
the supply chain interruptions from this virus spreading are immense to the economy.,
the market is worried for a damn good reason.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
If you are over 60, get the pneumonia vaccine and start taking beta-glucan (a proven immune system enhancer). I don't think it hurts to exercise yourself into as good a shape as you can (cardio-vascular). P.S. I'm not a doctor and I've never stayed in a Holiday Inn Express so my advise is prolly worthless.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
It’s absolutely serious. At current rates if they hold up, its estimated that about 60 percent of the worlds population will get it and if the 2% fatality rate holds up, that’s a lot of dead people.

Is it the end of the world? No, but it isn’t good.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.

Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.

You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
the only requirements to be tested or for those traveling to/from infected areas. the test kits were faulty. only three testing centers in the united states. might have something to do with underreporting in this country.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
....OMG, did I just invoke karma or what? shocked


That’s just silly.....

Im sure you didn’t....

Don’t worry about it.......

You know sometimes....

I’ll put $100 on Birdy being #1 !

whistle
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.

Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.

You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.



First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.

I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Prwlr
Originally Posted by rost495

Live life normally.


^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed...
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.

Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.

You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.



First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.

I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
My problem is with ignorant bs. Read in between the lines for the rest.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by JoeBob
It’s been here for months already. Apparently, Atlanta has had some especially bad cases of flu this year. Atlanta with just about the busiest airport in the world would be a place you would expect it to be. I suspect that lots of those flu cases from earlier in the year were something else.

Either way, this is t something that is going to be “contained”. Everyone will get it. For some it will be bad. For most it won’t be. Just like the common cold and or flu...at just a higher rate of serious complications. But not serious enough that everyone should hide out for weeks or months at a time...as if that would do any good anyway.
If you really knew something, your commentary would be worthwhile, but the first part of the point, negates the second.

Saying that its been here already could be true, but probably isn't. The part unsaid about not really knowing is salient. How bad it will be for 1st world citizens with better healthcare systems and ostensibly, in better shape than malnourished Chinese, is unknown. There are a lot of unknowns. For instance, your assertion that people should just get it and get it over with is blatantly stupid. From my limited understanding, once you've had the flu, you are pretty much immune to it until it morphs into something else. I don't know about colds-one is the Rhinovirus which seems to only be something you're immune to for a limited amount of time. There has been talk of this being like the latter, in which case, getting it is of no long-term benefit. In fact, if you were to get it over and over and over it would probably just break you down.

You justify the government's flippant or possibly more sinister response in actually bringing patients here as well as not shutting down ALL travel between China and here. You seem to love to throw something radical out and then defend it a little bit and leave.



First, WTF is your problem? Secondly, we know it’s been in Wuhan for months and was there for months before they let on that there was any problem. With the volume of international travel nowadays, it would be unreasonable to expect that infected persons didn’t make their way to the US before the travel bans and quarantines took effect. I don’t know if you get immunity from getting it or not. But everything I’ve seen shows it being about as contagious as a cold. If that’s the case, you’re going to get it at some point. Trying to hide from it is useless. Just live your life.

I haven’t justified the governments actions one way or the other. I would much rather they left sick people over there and not bring them here. But in the end, I doubt it makes much difference. I think the cat was out of the bag a long time ago.
My problem is with ignorant bs. Read in between the lines for the rest.


Oh, that’s right, you’re an [bleep]. Sorry, I forgot.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
one thing brought out in the spectator article is the E.U. and open borders, combined with lots of chinese visiting europe. they must be feeling real good in europe right about n ow.
eventually as this continues there is a good chance of supply side interuptions for various corporations. china is a important part of world gnp, and that interuption (s) will effect corporations world wide.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by RoninPhx
one thing brought out in the spectator article is the E.U. and open borders, combined with lots of chinese visiting europe. they must be feeling real good in europe right about n ow.


That one English dude infected like 14 people a month or so ago and didn’t even know he had it.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.

TRH, you may need N-100 masks to keep this virus out, though I havent heard what size the virus particles are.
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
At 60% infection rate world-wide and 2% mortality, you're talking 84 million dead world-wide, if my math is correct (which it probably isn't).
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?


After reading some news this morning my wife asked if we have enough portaledges for all of us. Just checked a bit ago and we are good, though I don’t think my youngest son has ever slept on one.
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Borealis Bob
We have been stockpiling canned goods, MREs, and have been dehydrating fruits and vegetables, off and on, since last summer. A good supply of OTC remedies, vitamins, first aid items, germocidal bleach, toilet paper, etc.

The wife thought I was a bit nuts; not so much now.


Is that for living close to Chicago, or for the Coronavirus?
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
What till it burns through the shîtholiest of the shîthole countries; then recalculate.

Ya know, like India, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Philippines, Thailand, etc
Thank you for putting India at the top of your Corona Summoning list.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
I really hope that some of the reports I e seen that Asians appear to be especially up stable to it are true. Not that I have anything against them, just that it wo t be as bad for everyone else as it is in China.
Posted By: Terryk Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Not direct about today's plague, but my folks were from old school Europe, and they had sayings about the black plague.
Funny that event was locked into the language. Generally they used it as a cuss word for some thing very terrible.
I always thought that was a bit historic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
Originally Posted by KFWA
I think I read the masks are not as effective against this as other virus because it can be absorbed thru the eyes? I guess that's why you see people walking around in life sized condoms in China.

but I think the masks have to be many times more effective than *not* wearing a mask. If you are buying one, look for the blue on one side/white on the other. The white/white paper masks are not intended to stop virus spread.

*note* - all this comes from what I read online so fwiw......

btw, I have a box of 50 surgical masks I will trade for a Savage 99 in .308 (joke)

I read that, too.

I'm not sure of the "dose" of virus necessary to cause an infection. Evidently it's not that much.

The reproductive rate, Ro, is higher than SARS, lower than measles which is one of the most contagious viruses, Ro 18.

The Ro of COVID-19 is not a definite value, being refined as the disease progresses, currently floating between 2.0 and 3.1.

As I posted earlier, the fact that this one can be contagious for a period of time before symptom appear makes it especially hard (next to impossible) to contain.

And, the fact that it's NOT as deadly as Ebola and others, makes it easier to spread undetected.

We see the death rate in 3rd world countries, not sure what it would be with state of the art medicine. Hope we never find out.

Unfortunately, this one does't fit an existing model; we're learning as it evolves, making it hard to project an ultimate outcome

DF
Posted By: KC Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Most of us will probably survive, people have been faced with far worse throughout our history.
Posted By: sse Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Most of us will probably survive, people have been faced with far worse throughout our history.

it's not the most of us i'm worried about

excuse me while i panic
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.


What happens when the bank forecloses and kicks you out of your bunker because you’ve stayed home from work for six months?
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
I'm preparing for the Corona virus by making a list of people's doorknobs that I'm going to wipe a booger on if I come down with it.
Sure hope nothing happens to all those looker China dolls that Pappy 348 uses for his icons. Damn they are all ways so hot looking... MB
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I'm always good on surgical masks, since I keep a couple of boxes on hand (along with goggles) at all times for when I clean out the hen house. You don't want to breath in that dust.

TRH, you may need N-100 masks to keep this virus out, though I havent heard what size the virus particles are.

Size of the virus is irrelevant. The virus doesn't float through the air by itself. It catches a ride on water droplets. Any surgical mask will catch a water droplet, and keep it from being breathed into the lungs. The only perfect solution is a hazmat suit.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
The grim reaper used to be portrayed as a specter in a dark robe holding a scythe.

From here on,..it'll be an old man walking along with a surly expression on his face and his finger up his nose.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
"The Grim Booger Picker"
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I'm preparing for the Corona virus by making a list of people's doorknobs that I'm going to wipe a booger on if I come down with it.


Lol . . . . . . .me too.
Posted By: jmdriver Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Wonder if I have enough time to find Jesus. Probably not.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Bristoe
"The Grim Booger Picker"


One-eyed, one-horned, Grim Booger Picker Flicker!
Posted By: JTman Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


That's actually pretty good odds...
Posted By: Slavek Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
too late to get masks............they seem to be sold out everywhere


People are stupid. The primary function of masks sold to public is to protect those already sick from those that are healthy.
Posted By: hotsoup Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Avoid people, crowded places. Wash your hands very often.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

It appears to only be deadly for those of East Asian ancestry.



Wrong wtf.. why because thets where its spreading? Get a clue dude.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by jmdriver
Wonder if I have enough time to find Jesus. Probably not.

He will be waiting anytime you are ready, friend.
Hey dumb azzes..

Corona virus has the same mortality rate as the Spanish flu. Look up how many people died.

You guys are pretty good at sticking your head in the sand or up your asses... wherever your denial is absorbing in from.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Look at the upside, those people that been storing food to last for years will actually be able to use some of it to survive. True Christians are well prepared, in worst possible scenario they get to meet Jesus a little sooner.
Posted By: kid0917 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by Prwlr
Originally Posted by rost495

Live life normally.


^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed...


another agree. don't fall to pieces guys. a poster says we are all going to get it. then says 60% of us are going to get it. what if 2 % get it and 100,000 people die from it in the US. that would be bad, but we lose people to illness every day.
If Iceland got it and lost 100,000 people that would be 1/3 of their population.
Posted By: sse Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
not sure if it's covered by obamacare
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.


What happens when the bank forecloses and kicks you out of your bunker because you’ve stayed home from work for six months?

My bunker is paid for. Its the heat and electricity Im worried about.
Posted By: Slavek Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Don't worry, Trump is going to win another term. His administration is trying very hard to eradicate Affordable Care Act including popular coverage for pre-existing conditions.
You are a clown.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Does anyone remember when Joebob got mad at me and renegade for buying all the Walmart weatherbys for 200 mile radius?
Posted By: hookeye Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Expect large factories to get slammed w folks being sick. Or supplier issues.

May not get sick....

But could be laid off for some time.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/25/20
Originally Posted by slumlord
Does anyone remember when Joebob got mad at me and renegade for buying all the Walmart weatherbys for 200 mile radius?



Uhh, I think you’re mistaken. That wasn’t me. I have all I want.
Originally Posted by Musicianized
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

It appears to only be deadly for those of East Asian ancestry.



Wrong wtf.. why because thets where its spreading? Get a clue dude.

"According to Chinese scientists, the Corona Virus attaches onto lung receptors that are five times more likely in Asian males."

Asians Far More Susceptible to Coronavirus than Other Races
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Musicianized
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Whiptail

So what can one do to prepare for a Coronavirus pandemic?

Buy masks?
Stockpile food? Fuel?
Stock up on medicine? What medicines?

It appears to only be deadly for those of East Asian ancestry.



Wrong wtf.. why because thets where its spreading? Get a clue dude.

"According to Chinese scientists, the Corona Virus attaches onto lung receptors that are five times more likely in Asian males."

Asians Far More Susceptible to Coronavirus than Other Races


Well I guess we can hope.
Posted By: KC Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.


Leroy:

The influenza epidemic of 1917 lasted for five years. We have a vastly better transportation system today than we did then. But still I bet it's gonna last long enough that you're not going to be able to wait it out in a bunker.
Posted By: Pahntr760 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.
Posted By: sse Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
the treatment's gonna cost 10K, the deductible's 15K
Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.



Haha! You would know I guess.....
Posted By: Pahntr760 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.



Haha! You would know I guess.....



It is so gross here. Everyone's trash gets pilled on the street corners, bathrooms are never clean and soap is sparse. The streets are full of goop, trash and general nastiness. I have but 26 days left here, not that I am counting.
Well, I hope you get out in time!



The Japanese are supposed to be better at that sort of thing aren't they?
Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Proper hygiene and sanitation and you'll be fine. Something the Asian world seems to know nothing about.



Haha! You would know I guess.....



It is so gross here. Everyone's trash gets pilled on the street corners, bathrooms are never clean and soap is sparse. The streets are full of goop, trash and general nastiness. I have but 26 days left here, not that I am counting.
I remember an old movie about WWII and somebody said, "dirty Japs" and I believe it was Frank Sinatra, the anti-war hero of the movie who was 4F in real life, waxing eloquent on how clean the Japanese were, taking baths all the time and such. I realize Korea ain't Japan, but you were talking about the majority of the Orient, I suppose. I figured Korea was pretty clean.
Originally Posted by JTman
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


That's actually pretty good odds...

He's probably a poker player. Those dudes can figure percentages pretty good in their head.
Posted By: dassa Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
I dunno , but the Asians sure seem to think the masks help

They also think eating rhino horns will make their dicks grow.
Posted By: Pahntr760 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Well, I hope you get out in time!



The Japanese are supposed to be better at that sort of thing aren't they?





They are much better at that part of it for sure, but their population density doesn't help things much. They are "clean" by Asian standards anyway.

Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
I dunno , but the Asians sure seem to think the masks help


That is mostly because of the nasty air here. The AQI in China is unreal bad.
Posted By: Steve Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Every place I've been in Asia, with the exception of Japan and Singapore, have had challenging sanitation issues. Korea is better than it used to be, but it's still grimy. That said Seoul (couple years ago) is better than Portland or Seattle given their recent decline and the rise of homeless tolerance.
Originally Posted by KC
Originally Posted by LeroyBeans
Originally Posted by KC

There's nothing that you can do to protect yourself or your family. Everyone on the planet will get infected and 2% will die.


Sure there is hunker in your bunker until it is over. You preppies should have this all down and ready. Time to tunnel under and don't come up 'til autumn.


Leroy:

The influenza epidemic of 1917 lasted for five years. We have a vastly better transportation system today than we did then. But still I bet it's gonna last long enough that you're not going to be able to wait it out in a bunker.




Never said I was going to hunker in a bunker. Just tryin' to help someone else.

The transportation system, etc. should get this all over much faster and more violently than the 1917 epidemic.

Everybody's gonna roll the dice. Like it or not, but maybe the bunker hunker will come out on top. Never know.
Posted By: k20350 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
What are you going to do run around like your hairs on fire? My buddy cant stop watching and reading everything about it and giving me unneeded updates. Keeps telling me I'm not gonna be so tough when millions are dying. I'm already on overtime having cancer 5 years ago. Not much you can do at all with kids in school and a wife in health care. Wife said just today the main office asked how many masks they have on hand and it was way too low for pandemic [bleep].
Posted By: KFWA Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up

-----------------------------

A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.

Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.

Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.

Initial results could be released by July or August.

It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.

But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by sdgunslinger
I dunno , but the Asians sure seem to think the masks help

They also think eating rhino horns will make their dicks grow.




well ifin it would make my old dick grow back to where it was , id sure try some rhino horn dust................
Too funny
Posted By: hookeye Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
If mine grew back like it was I'd just ruin my life again.
Little bastid doesn't cause trouble anymore.
Like having more gun money these days.
Originally Posted by KFWA
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up

-----------------------------

A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.

Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.

Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.

Initial results could be released by July or August.

It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.

But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.

The Swine Flu vaccine killed many more people than did the Swine Flu.
Posted By: JoeBob Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by KFWA
seems like they would figure out a way to hurry this process up

-----------------------------

A Massachusetts biotech firm has completed a potential coronavirus vaccine and released it to federal health officials for human testing, according to officials and a new report.

Moderna, Inc., of Cambridge, announced on Monday that it released its first batch of mRNA-1273 to treat humans for the virus.

Vials have been shipped to the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, in Bethesda, Md. The experimental vaccine will now be tested in humans, the Wall Street Journal reported.

The institute will begin a clinical trial of about 20 to 25 healthy volunteers by the end of April to determine whether two doses of the shot are safe and induce an immune response likely to safeguard participants from infection, NIAID director Anthony Fauci told the Journal.

Initial results could be released by July or August.

It has yet to be determined whether the Moderna batch will work, because its gene-based technology has yet to yield an approved human vaccine, Fauci said. Even if the first study is positive, the vaccine may not be readily available until next year, pending further studies and regulatory clearance, the doctor said.

But Fauci told the Journal that even if the spread of coronavirus lessens during the warmer months, it could come back in full force next winter like the flu.


Do you want zombies? Because this is how you get zombies.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.
Pretty sure that they've got bigger things to worry about right now, Jag.

Such as survival, and not pissing off their biggest trading partner. EBay's probably safe for now.
Posted By: JCMCUBIC Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by slumlord


I could go live with my mother in law ...



Of those choices I'm going to go with the virus.....final answer.....
Posted By: 673 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

Whether on purpose or accident, I was thinking the same thing.
Originally Posted by jmdriver
Wonder if I have enough time to find Jesus. Probably not.

Ha!

You may find him (or not) ready or not... shocked

DF
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

9 day virus survival on dry surface?

Is that a fact?

Hmmm...

DF
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

9 day virus survival on dry surface?

Is that a fact?

Hmmm...

DF


That's the latest report from a few days ago, Doc.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

9 day virus survival on dry surface?

Is that a fact?

Hmmm...

DF


That's the latest report from a few days ago, Doc.

Not good.

DF
Posted By: 1minute Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
It's a version of the flu which I have endured so far for 73 years, Nothing.
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

9 day virus survival on dry surface?

Is that a fact?

Hmmm...

DF

That figure comes from studies that have been able, using lab techniques, to identify genetic material from the virus on those surfaces after that period of time. This doesn't actually mean you can contract the virus from contact with those dry surfaces after, or even prior to, that period. The essential exterior surface of the virus is necessary for transmission, and it's quite vulnerable to damage upon exposure to dry surfaces.
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
After Chinese take out last night....

Posted By: rost495 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

I doubt anything coming from China gets here in 9 days but what do I know
Originally Posted by rost495
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Knowing how the Chinese govt hates us, I wonder what the chances are of them infecting goods to be sent to the US on Ebay, since the virus can live dry for 9 days.

I doubt anything coming from China gets here in 9 days but what do I know

I'd think the vast majority of their stuff comes thru seaports in containers.

You'd have to fly products in to beat the time period, and that's too expensive in most cases.

DF
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Ebay

Amazon

So, I dont think we have blocked airports to flights from S Korea, Italy or Germany where a top govt official has just called their Corona problem an Epidemic.
Posted By: KenMi Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
If you are Asian and you smoke, change your name to:


Ho Lee Fuuk
Sum Ting Wong
or
Bing Bang Ow
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
I expect if this becomes a real problem in many countries there will be some in high positions who will not want the US, Canada and Mexico to escape unscathed.

How much of our food comes from south of the border.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Hell Mexico is probably working on their own flu bug!! Ever been in the schitter stalls of the Stripes in Falfurrias?

And they are the cleaner ones! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.


Make her let it sit on the porch a week. grin
Posted By: battue Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
The mask are all made in china anyway


Checked yesterday and all our hospital masks come from China. The hospital should be overrun with it. Yet we are not. They want to kill us, then flood the market with contaminated masks, yet they haven’t.

It will be old history in a couple months, Trump will seal the seal on a trade agreement and the market will be back.
Posted By: rickt300 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
From what I have heard most people who catch it are not even treated and live.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.


Make her let it sit on the porch a week. grin


She done forgot she ordered some of the stuff. They were in customs that long! She’s been better lately. She gets on ordering kicks. Recently ordering all kinds of damn cookies. 🤪🤪🤪. They ain’t from China. No fortune cookies! 🤣
Lotsa people drinking the Commie and MSM Koolaid...

Evidently it's being served in copious doses here at the Fire as well.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Hell Apparently all the trinkets, foofaraw, geegaws, and schidt wifey orders from China (Amazon?) is tied up in Customs a lot longer than nine days.


Make her let it sit on the porch a week. grin


She done forgot she ordered some of the stuff. They were in customs that long! She’s been better lately. She gets on ordering kicks. Recently ordering all kinds of damn cookies. 🤪🤪🤪. They ain’t from China. No fortune cookies! 🤣



Well, it's pretty common fo them to get to ordering things. Most commonly they order husbands.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Lotsa people drinking the Commie and MSM Koolaid...

Evidently it's being served in copious doses here at the Fire as well.


I hope and pray you're right, Barry. OTOH, seeing commies drag folks from their homes and the reporters disappearing, shutting airports and borders and businesses down, nurses saying there are a hundred thousand cases 2 weeks ago, China not allowing US viral experts in, docs dying, health minister in Iran I'll,
Germany calling it epidemic, S Korea shutting down,..... whistle
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle
The same people that trust the government and the media about fücking nothing are panicking about a new strain of an old virus because the media and the government are saying it’s going to be a problem. Some of you fellas need to get a grip.
Posted By: RickyD Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Biden must have a deal with the Chink Commies to put on a show so our economy will crash. It's working.

What a coincidence that the markets are crashing just in time for it to appear that the Trump economy is a lie by the liars in chief, the lieberal lying demoncraps.

No one not old and feeble or with problem repository issues have died from this flu/cold thing.

Angela Merkel would kill off a few hundred of her peasants, too, if it was detrimental to Trump.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Finally, folks are beginning to get a clue. The deep state is rebelling against Trumps winning.

Make no mistake, the Clinton's and Piglosi and Schiefty and Piglosi and Schumer and Zero and Feinstein with her Chinese office mgr spy are on their team also. Feinstein are multimillionaires from selling us out to China and that's what Huntrr Bidens China deal was all about. Feinstein knew her guy was a spy all the time and Clinton's open computers were a sell out to China. They didn't have to hack them and are probably why the DNC wouldnt let the FBI check their computers out.

That's why they fought the USMCA trade deal and the MSM was predicting a world wide economic crash last summer if Trump messed with Chinas ripping us off with his trade threats and negotiations and tariffs.
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by JohnnyLoco
The mask are all made in china anyway


Checked yesterday and all our hospital masks come from China. The hospital should be overrun with it. Yet we are not. They want to kill us, then flood the market with contaminated masks, yet they haven’t.

It will be old history in a couple months, Trump will seal the seal on a trade agreement and the market will be back.



Trump will cure the corona virus by having his holding company get majority stock of Moderna and sending the vaccine for the chinks to field test, you know 1000 or so doses and when they want more it will cost enough to take care of the trade deficit between us and them. Me ,I'd just tell'em to pissup a rope but Don is smarter than I and will make them pay. MB
Posted By: RickyD Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle

They DO have closed borders.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Trump has been parroting 'bring manufacturing back home' for years now, this is ONE of the big reasons why we need manufacturing capabilities here!
Posted By: Raeford Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Lotsa people drinking the Commie and MSM Koolaid...

Evidently it's being served in copious doses here at the Fire as well.



I agree.
Posted By: slumlord Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
I got some raisins from China a while back.

Never again

I couldn’t wipe anymore, had to resort to ‘daubing’
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle


The dumbassed low life commies like Jell0 snd la Roy and Gayghost are too stupid to know what's going on and the big wheel ones who are inside members of the DNC know they will get top flight medical care if they did get it.

They arent worried about the nuclear war Hillary was going to start by shooting Putins jets down over Syria and they arent worried about the nuclear war they were building N Korea or Iran to start either. Why? They have their bunkers they can live in for months.

There is more than one Cheyenne Mt bunker in the US. Those who arent members of the cabal need not apply for lodging. All free gratis, compliments of the American taxpayers for them taking care of us.
Originally Posted by slumlord
I got some raisins from China a while back.

Never again

I couldn’t wipe anymore, had to resort to ‘daubing’


I bet your dogs have less trouble that you do.


When did Chinese Raisins seem like a good idea?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
Originally Posted by slumlord
I got some raisins from China a while back.

Never again

I couldn’t wipe anymore, had to resort to ‘daubing’


I bet your dogs have less trouble that you do.


When did Chinese Raisins seem like a good idea?


Hahaha. They were cheap, Jim.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle


The dumbassed low life commies like Jell0 snd la Roy and Gayghost are too stupid to know what's going on and the big wheel ones who are inside members of the DNC know they will get top flight medical care if they did get it.

They arent worried about the nuclear war Hillary was going to start by shooting Putins jets down over Syria and they arent worried about the nuclear war they were building N Korea or Iran to start either. Why? They have their bunkers they can live in for months.

There is more than one Cheyenne Mt bunker in the US. Those who arent members of the cabal need not apply for lodging. All free gratis, compliments of the American taxpayers for them taking care of us.


yeah, if you have a bunker with a couple months of supply, why would you ever care one whit about nuclear war? Such a trivial thing.

Just how stupid can you be?

I know, it's the internet. You can (and will) be infinitely effing stupid.
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle

They DO have closed borders.


Funny how they don't work for them either.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
How about 3 years supply, la Roye?

Hey, you're the one supporting the commies in our govt who push open borders, muzzy immigration and financial destruction with welfare give away programs and free medical care and even for illegals.

Your buds seem pretty intent on destroying this country one way or the other. Surely they wouldnt give the vote to illegals to put your anti 2A buds in power to disarm us, would they? wink

I should have guessed you'd be too stupid to consider a nuclear event causing an electric grid melt down without high radiation counts.
I hate it when we are all scheduled to die again.
Damyankee DeBlasio is on TV flapping his gums now, about needing federal help to purchase and distribute sneeze masks to every resident of Noo Yawk City- - - - - -hasn't the dumazz ever heard of duct tape? I'll be glad to use him as a demonstration subject on how to apply it - - - - -5 or 6 layers around the mouth and nose, and he won't have to worry about catching coronavirus or anything else- - - -ever!
Jerry
Posted By: Raeford Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Have any Jews died from this yet?
Originally Posted by Raeford
Have any Jews died from this yet?



Bah! GIve me a break!





What nonsense..............




They all been vaccinated. Everybody knows that.
Posted By: nighthawk Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
How are .22 rimfire supplies in your area? (just being a smartass).
Originally Posted by RickyD
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
If the Commies are so damned worried, why aren't they screaming to "Close The Borders!!" ?? whistle

They DO have closed borders.



I'm talking about OUR commies. And OUR borders. grin

This whole thing thing is imported.
Posted By: mirage243 Re: Coronavirus Preparations - 02/26/20
Big ol cluster fugg at the hospital in this one horse town I live in today. Somebody came in sick, they said it was the symptoms of Coronavirus. Locked the hospital down, had all the POPO there, people were frieking out. Dang folks are nuts.

We eat there a lot at lunch, cafeteria has real good food, all the guys that work for me said they're never going back again. Lol
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